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Lector G · Oct 06, 2008, 05:54 AM // 05:54

as the title says my first GW video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnGX0odmnH4

comments, criticism, and ways to improve very much appreciated. Thnks in advanced and enjoy. Flamers you all can go rot somewhere

Gift3d · Oct 06, 2008, 06:33 AM // 06:33

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Originally Posted by Lector G

comments, criticism, and ways to improve very much appreciated. Thnks in advanced and enjoy. Flamers you all can go rot somewhere

With an arrogant comment like that you're just asking to get flamed.

On a serious note that was the most BORING video i've ever watched. People in black and white basically standing, maybe whacking a few monsters, and doing a few emotes. WOW. How distasteful. The little white silhouette was kind of cool, but that is literally the only decent attribute of the entire five minutes i just wasted watching this.

Other people who know what they're doing and have made Guild Wars music videos just blow yours back into the 1981 IBM era.

4 D · Oct 06, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48

And thus we come to the reason Lector probably stopped making videos. Your username and avy are appropriate gift3d, you are indeed gifted at trolling.

Honestly it did drag a little in the middle there, but the beginning was very original. Songs that are that long, we have a tendency to want to fill in video just to use the whole song, but I'd shorten the song and shorten the vid, so you can just get the idea you want accross. I'd also work on making the action sequences look as little like standard gameplay as possible, and try to place a meaning behind any action sequence; we wanna know why she's fighting that djinn in that cave.

Other than that, the word that comes to mind is provacative.

Lector G · Oct 06, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Thanks 4 D for the advice I'll try to make sure of that next video I do. Any suggestions on the whole less like game play idea there I'm kinda drawing a blank.

On a side note i been watching you Lablo series and i actually see what you mean though now that I think about it and a very very good job on that.

@ gift3d look the first person who can go rot somewhere pick somewhere fun why don't ya :edit: actually nvm that don't go rot ill just pick your only advice you gave so try to be less boring got it

Gift3d · Oct 06, 2008, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by 4 D

And thus we come to the reason Lector probably stopped making videos. Your username and avy are appropriate gift3d, you are indeed gifted at trolling.

Honestly it did drag a little in the middle there, but the beginning was very original. Songs that are that long, we have a tendency to want to fill in video just to use the whole song, but I'd shorten the song and shorten the vid, so you can just get the idea you want accross. I'd also work on making the action sequences look as little like standard gameplay as possible, and try to place a meaning behind any action sequence; we wanna know why she's fighting that djinn in that cave.

Other than that, the word that comes to mind is provacative.

Apparently you can't read. Everyone says OMG TROLLING TROLLING TROLL TROLL when in fact they don't know what in the living hell they are talking about. I said my honest opinion, in all truth, and that's not trolling. Honestly speaking your mind is often something shunned by carebears and hated by oppressive mods, so it's whatever.

If you're bad at something and do it for fun, great. Awesome. Sweet. Just don't be mad and cry when you ask others for their opinions and they point out your obvious lack of talent.

Nibbit · Oct 06, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

With an arrogant comment like that you're just asking to get flamed.

On a serious note that was the most BORING video i've ever watched. People in black and white basically standing, maybe whacking a few monsters, and doing a few emotes. WOW. How distasteful. The little white silhouette was kind of cool, but that is literally the only decent attribute of the entire five minutes i just wasted watching this.

Other people who know what they're doing and have made Guild Wars music videos just blow yours back into the 1981 IBM era.

ye this video was really boring, totally agree with you

jonnieboi05 · Oct 06, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

hmm the video was ok at first then it just kinda dragged on and on and on and on and on and.... well... you get the idea.

anyways, i give your work a 3/10. my favorite part in the whole movie was the end when your monk vanished and even so that wasn't exactly thrilling to see. xD

sorry, bud.... but... these kinds of movies take major creativity to pull off successfully.

4 D · Oct 06, 2008, 07:40 AM // 07:40

hmm... how to say this without it being a really long post... heh.

So in game, you're going up the side of a path and all the sudden there's a monster, and the derv rushes after it and the monk stays back and watches and waits to heal. No zoom in, no reverse angle to catch the action. Honestly, there's nothing we can gleen from you video that we can't get by playing the game itself.

My advice would be to zoom till you think you're too close and think you're gonna miss all the action. And then stop the camera and get the action from the other side. If you want action sequences you shoulde never have anything play more than a second or two.

If you're going through a cave, go through with a purpose, if something attacks you then you've already failed. You should 1) ignore the monsters or even better, 2) kill the monsters, and then go back to entrance and shoot the scene again.

If you WANT the monsters to attack you, then it should like 5 seperate shots.

1 You walk into the cave

2 you stop because you see a monster, close up on your face

3 the monster notices you

4 you size each other up

5 you attack the monster

Even with no dialogue, this scene is rich with storyline and drama, and if you put enough of it in, the music you choose will match the action.

Hope that helped a little ^_^

Lector G · Oct 06, 2008, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Yes that helped a good bit

So in your opinion should I remake the video shortening and revamping my scenes to better get my point across before i dive into trying another guild wars video? I figure get this one right before making the same mistakes multiple times. So that maybe even gift3d will not be bored

4 D · Oct 06, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

That's up to you. Mostly it depends on whether this song has meaning for you and you can use it to get a better point across.

For shortening the song, use a formula like what I did in my Lablo intro, start on a good strong note, not at the beginning of the song, then cut straight to the chorus, and then go to the last verse, or part of the last verse. That's about as time consuming as it sounds, but it'll be so much better. I used Audacity for that...

My advice would be, maybe keep the first shot, and reshoot the rest. I hate reshooting just as much as anyone, but for everything I do I shoot about three times as much as I use...

jonnieboi05 · Oct 06, 2008, 08:14 AM // 08:14

offtopic, but, 4 D...... can i have your babies? i'll gib 5k and a wood plank.

Lector G · Oct 06, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

Thnks a bunch 4 D Will work on it hopefully i have some useable footage of the derv cause that person is outta town

otherwise ill be hunting some one else down for the second person any ways off too see whats garbage or not and get a few more runs >.> heh noticed i abused the green screen a bit much....

Tatile · Oct 06, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30

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Originally Posted by Lector G

So that maybe even gift3d will not be bored

Who are making videos for, yourself or others? If it's for yourself, take 4D's advice and find your groove over all this. If it's for others try to realise that you'll never please everyone and that trying to can end up a massive failure.

On the video itself, I wasn't overly impressed. Is the grainy (it looked grainy to me), greyscale style supposed to be represetative of memories or the Monk's emotions are losing her love (I assume that's what's going on here). If so, perhaps you could fade the colours out gradually? Starting with strong vibrant colours at the beginning when they're together and having that change to the grey-grainy style as the story progesses.

I have no idea how possible that is and it probably isn't. I wouldn't know, I don't makre videos.

Lector G · Oct 06, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36

myself of course and hopefully others can get enjoyment out of them.. the gift3d comment was a badly placed failed attempt at a joke ill admit. you got it right its supposed to be memories leading up to her death and seeing them again.... good idea on the color fade to black and white yea the grainyness of it i think happened somewhere in the render to the upload hopefully i can fix it in the semi soon to come "fixed/updated version" thnks a bunch as well Tatile..

jonnieboi05 · Oct 06, 2008, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

Apparently you can't read. Everyone says OMG TROLLING TROLLING TROLL TROLL when in fact they don't know what in the living hell they are talking about. I said my honest opinion, in all truth, and that's not trolling. Honestly speaking your mind is often something shunned by carebears and hated by oppressive mods, so it's whatever.

i find this EXTREMELY odd for some-1 to be saying considering 1) their avatar is carebear, and 2), inside their avatar is the "definition" of a troll. you are in every way a troll form what it seems so far. also, fyi, "stating your opinion" is almost exactly the same as trolling if used in the sense that you bash on some-1 (such as calling them pathetic, saying their video is a piece of ****ing sh*t, ect ect). before you make your avie into a carebear and post the "definition of a troll", how about you yourself learn what it means. g'day, gift3d. let's all get back on topic now. <3

Da Rk Bl Ad E · Oct 06, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40

boring video is boring

Valkyria · Oct 06, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

I liked the start,and maybe it was bit too long/slow for my taste,but it went really good with that song. Effects you put also look and fit very nicely. Overall,good job.

Lector G · Oct 06, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

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Originally Posted by Da Rk Bl Ad E

boring video is boring

Useless post is useless

@Valkyria Thanks at least i got it semi right

... as for the slowness of the video I hope to fix it in the update version I'm working on atm