Curse

Willow · May 11, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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(2) terminate any license granted herein, for any reason whatsoever, including, without limitation, any suspected or actual infringement of any trademark or trade name right, copyright, or other proprietary right.

Hardly nothing there, shimmersl*t. They revoked your liscense to use their product and servers.

Admittedly it's extremely heavy handed.

My advice: keep trying to contact ANet. Don't pester, don't be annoying about it, but keep trying different routes of communication. The game just came out, I imagine they're very overwhelmed.

And what do you need a name like that for anyways?

Dazzler · May 11, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Well, I used their support site and am waiting patiently the 24hrs they promised to reply within.

And I don't *need* a name like that. I'm perfectly willing to change it or if I have to make a new character if given the chance. It just happens to be what I like to call all my female spellcasters. I've been doing it for years, though usually in single-player games. Lesson learned.

Inde · May 11, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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Originally Posted by Shimmersl*t

Why in the hell is my account locked?

Because the word you used was not appropriate. I don't see where this is difficult.

PhineasToke · May 11, 2005, 07:05 PM // 19:05

My Mother had a saying, "cut your loses before you have everything to lose".

I personally think that pleading the case for violating the EULA here is not going to change the way AN does business. I think a lesson could be learned here, but I don't know how effective it is.

Sidra Meum · May 11, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13

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Kik2K
Even tho it was a mistake, what is preventing people from going around and reporting the people they hate just to get them banned?

Common Sense on ANETs side. I am sure, after the misunderstanding with "Dr Pepe" they are going to be a bit more "Aware" it is not a "Hey, Lets get a bunch of people to all report this person and they will automatically ban them without a second thought". Petitions are sent, and they are looked into. Someone sending a petition over "Susie Grey" is gonna go no where.

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DEATH AT THE DOOR
Almost forgot:
Try Pecker and Homo on dictionary.com, Sidra Meum.

Why? Will it somehow inform me of something I missed in my other post?

Main Entry: [2]homo
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural homos
Etymology: by shortening
Date: 1929
often disparaging : HOMOSEXUAL
Main Entry: [1]ho·mo
Pronunciation: 'hO-(")mO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural homos
Etymology: New Latin Homin-, Homo, from Latin, human being —more at HOMAGE
Date: 1596
: any of a genus (Homo) of primate mammals that includes modern humans (H. sapiens) and several extinct related species

Main Entry: peck·er
Pronunciation: 'pe-k&r
Function: noun
Date: 1587
1 : one that pecks
2 : chiefly British : COURAGE
3 : often vulgar : PENIS

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shimmers*ut
Who are you to define appropriate?

I, personally, do NOT. ANet does, and they base that off of the public's view. Like someone else posted. SOCIETY decides what is appropriet. It is NOT appropriet to have sex at the mall, while it is at your own home. Naming is very similar. If it will NOT be found in a PG13 movie or LOWER. It is NOT appropriet.

You keep bringing up "Half naked women" and its a very weak argument. As long as you are not seeing breasts, nipples and vulva. The female characters do remain decently covered - even more so then on some public beaches.

I know and I do understand you are upset with what is going on with your account. Yes, it was wrong of them to block the account completely and without a direct reason to you or any information at all on what happen. But,you were wrong in using the word **** in your name. All that is left to do is wait for ANet to get back to you on why the account and not simply the character was blocked.

Ramus · May 11, 2005, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Inde

Because the word you used was not appropriate. I don't see where this is difficult.

I've been trying to figure this out the entire time.

Macel · May 11, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by Master Elyas

im canadian, and i am also neutral...

You neutrals disgust me,

Death to the neutrals!

Augy · May 11, 2005, 11:16 PM // 23:16

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

So, right now, we don't have the ability to offer name changing options. The only thing we can do, right now, to maintain some level of reasonable game environment is to ban the character. This does not mean that's our preferred method of dealing with this -- we're hard at work on getting in other options in the very near future. But please, trust me, when you see 50 or 100 names and they make you blush, they're that bad, you need to know that in the short term we're acting in the best interests of the majority of our players.

Gaile, I'm assuming (yes, a dangerous thing to do, I admit) that player names are simply a value in a database table someplace. Would it be that time consuming to simply change the name in the table field, instead of heavy-handedly banning the account?

I'm not defending the OP in any way, somebody grouping with "Roxor Mcownage" is highly suspect, but I'm wondering at the real technical feasibility of changing names instead of locking out players. Just curious.

kelith · May 12, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04

@Augy: you would also have to update all the armor that character has crafted as well as any customized weapons since those items contain the characters name.

I'm not sure how thier database is set up but that could prove to be problematic and/or time consuming to have to do.

Manderlock · May 12, 2005, 04:06 AM // 04:06

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Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR

Sorry, but what's so offensive about Dr. Pepe?

Dick is a name.
Pecker is a bird.
Homo is a man.
**** is a rooster.
If you think ANY of those words mean anything else, it just proves you are not as "innocent" as you claim to be and you have no right to be offended by those.

All this reminds me of this The Noob episode.

1. Yes, But if a persons name is "look at my big ****". Its no longer "just a name"

2. Same as above

3. Homo-sapien means man, not homo. Thats short for homosexual. Still no problem with this, unless its used in a degrading way towards thos of that lifestyle.

4. Same as #1

EnDinG · May 12, 2005, 04:20 PM // 16:20

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Originally Posted by Shimmersl*t

Exactly my point. Nothing in there about them closing my account. Just says the character will be blocked.

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Originally Posted by SM

Conclusion: A.Net/NCSoft has the right to do as they please. Next time protect yourself by reading and following the EULA, Code of Conduct, and Terms of Use.

If they can do what they want, they will block you. Simple enough.

Augy · May 12, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by kelith

@Augy: you would also have to update all the armor that character has crafted as well as any customized weapons since those items contain the characters name.

Well, ideally the name is simply a variable that the code calls, so you dont have to rename anything except change the value in the db table.

But you're right, depending on the technical stuff going on behind the scenes, it may in fact be a pain to do this. That still seems odd to me though.

Dreamsmith · May 12, 2005, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by Augy

Well, ideally the name is simply a variable that the code calls, so you dont have to rename anything except change the value in the db table.

I suspect the entire game isn't run out of one giant table with thousands of columns. Rather, information is quite likely distributed across multiple tables. If you simply changed a character's name in one table, he may in fact lose every item he owns and other details of the charcter that are stored in other tables and looked up by character name. Not to mention guilds, friend lists, etc. That one change in the character table may require a thousand changes in a dozen other tables. Still quite possible to do, but coding this in a way that doesn't cause database corruption or an accumulation of cruft may be non-trivial.

Loviatar · May 12, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Gaile said that at the present they were UNABLE to simply change the name not UNWILLING
she said they were working on a less drastic solution

so until they have a less drastic solution it might be wise to not to be *cute*and see what you can get away with

Maximilian · May 13, 2005, 01:30 PM // 13:30

I've read 5 pages of your comments and I agree with the sexually explicit PG-13 rating common sense things. There is another facet of the "look at me" name I would like to bring up for discussion. In the past two days I have seen both Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin as player names. While not offensive as names go, they have historical stigma associated with them. I do not know of any mother who would willingly name a child after such evil men. (I liked the "mom test" mentioned earlier.)

When I see a player named as such, I say to myself "what a jerk" and add them to my ignored list, case closed. Is anyone using the ignored feature in this way?

Taphoo · May 13, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by Maximilian

I've read 5 pages of your comments and I agree with the sexually explicit PG-13 rating common sense things. There is another facet of the "look at me" name I would like to bring up for discussion. In the past two days I have seen both Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin as player names. While not offensive as names go, they have historical stigma associated with them. I do not know of any mother who would willingly name a child after such evil men. (I liked the "mom test" mentioned earlier.)

When I see a player named as such, I say to myself "what a jerk" and add them to my ignored list, case closed. Is anyone using the ignored feature in this way?

Actually, I played with ol' Joe in a PUG game a few days back. We had a blast, though I agree that the real Stalin should have been sniped back in 1918. I generally don't play with people who have - to me! - offensive names. I do find it vastly amusing that there is this huge controversy over banning names with sexual connotations; the Elementalist's dance is fairly erotic, and many people spend *way* too much time getting their avatars to gyrate together in ways I'd like to ask my girlfriend to emulate

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I have far more annoyance with the 'kop killa's and 'child molester's. I think the banning is just a function of US society - we have no problem with blood and gore, but God help you if a woman's breast is exposed.

Maiyn · May 14, 2005, 09:05 PM // 21:05

My friend got burned with the offensive names as well. His alias is often "schwetty wang" when we'd play worms 3d and so without thinking that's what he made his character. OBVIOUSLY we can all see how that is offensive, but he just didn't think. I really think they should at least give people the option to change their name before they delete the character completely because he really didn't mean to offend anyone.

Yet at the same time you have to realize that there are kids playing this game and some of the names you guys have mentioned are really just inappropriate.

I'm sorry as well.. but 'hot sticky loads' ... you may not have intended it. That really just makes me feel ill, and I can really see why they deleted it. The common meaning of that 'phrase' is definitely not related to anything made in a bakery. :/

Yet, I'll reiterate AGAIN.. people should be given an option before the character they've played for however long is deleted. Cause that just sucks.

elorei · May 15, 2005, 11:31 AM // 11:31

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Originally Posted by Sekkira

Hot Sticky Loads has nothing wrong with it. If the first thing you think of is something offensive, then maybe you need to get your head checked before pointing accusations of offensive material.

wow, you are either under 12 years of age, over 60 years of age, extremely naive, or english is a new language for you.

seriously, anyone NOT matching the above criteria will think or ONE thing, and ONE thing only when hearing "hot sticky loads". and the person that named the character that knew this.

to the OP:

PUUHHHHHHLEEEEEEZE. dont try to tell us you meant that as a bakery term. we arent stupid. its not a bakery term. it never was bakery term. it has nothing at all to do with doughnuts. show me *ONE* single example of a bakery that refers to *ANY* of its foodstuffs as "hot sticky loads" and ill show you a baker going out of business.

Wind · May 15, 2005, 11:38 AM // 11:38

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Originally Posted by kelith

@Augy: you would also have to update all the armor that character has crafted as well as any customized weapons since those items contain the characters name.

I'm not sure how thier database is set up but that could prove to be problematic and/or time consuming to have to do.

The database should be set up so customized weapons are references by whatever special index number that particular character name has, not by their actual name, because integers are calculated faster than strings. Actually depending on a character name string is a waste of resources.

Serafita Kayin · May 15, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50

wait a second, this thread is still going on?

I say let stupidity run its course. If they make a name like that, deal with it in the way that such stupidity dictates.