Curse

EnDinG · May 10, 2005, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Actually, it is a female. She is short. And shes a ghostly white. LoL. Good call.

Figure I'd have some fun looking like I have a sickness while swinging a big axe around.

*Shrugs* Its just fun to have people look at you and think, "I have no idea if this person can play the game, I mean they are a pale sick person with the name Bad Player."

Amuses me enough.

Beta Ray Bill · May 10, 2005, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Master Elyas

...Hot Sticky Loads is just a name, and if your bothered by it, dont put your mouse over it when u play GW...

Yeah, and using some sort of ethnically offensive epithet falls under the same reasoning; so why not have players name themselves "Fa**ots go to H***" or "N***** Killer". Just ignore those names, right?

How foolish can a person be?! It's offensive and creates a game environment that feels hostile and/or unclean. It ruins the game for everyone, not just the few who don't like it.

(My apologies to anyone who was even offended my my reference to such terminology; I was trying to make a definitive point.)

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...better yet, dont play GW, because there are alot of offensive names, or semi-offensive ones, or names that ppl will think offensive when they are not.

Those who choose to push the envelope of acceptable taste at the expense of others--who have, by the way, already made an irretrievable financial investment--are not acting in the interest of the philosophy that Guild Wars is built on: enjoyable cooperative and competitive gaming for all.

Sekkira · May 10, 2005, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

Get real. If it surprises you that the first thing people think of is offensive on a term where the first 100 hits on Google are all porn, every last one of them, you need to get your head examined. Being that far out of touch with reality is dangerous.

Nice one, you used the internet, a service that was built entirely for the use of perverted things as an example XD

And I agree with the Canadian dude, you Americans seem to be too stuck up to take something so light hearted. No where else in the world have I seen someone take something as small as a name so offensively. Christ, you shouldn't even associate with Australians in that case.

Beta Ray Bill · May 10, 2005, 10:55 PM // 22:55

My advice: censor yourselves and others won't.

Kik2k · May 10, 2005, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Naw my Char got blocked and no its not a PVP Char this is why im so angry, becuase i spent aaround 100 Hours and i end up with a banned char.... Its really unfair.... You guys stilll havent answer my "T H E R A P I S T" question....Also if some has the name " Nuts" of a person name is "Dick" should they be banned? because people will automatically assume the worst?

Willow · May 10, 2005, 11:19 PM // 23:19

You know what, go ahead and report therapist. You do that.

The more and more I think about this, I'm coming to one of two conclusions:

Either kik2k is incredibly stupid, or this is a hoax.

(Come on, a baking term? There isn't a baker alive who could say that without giggling.)

Kik2k · May 10, 2005, 11:39 PM // 23:39

Naw I assure you its not a hoax, Il post a Screen shot of my lvl 20 Char. what if in the future people are offended by the name BOB and start banning everyone that has the name bob? They ban people on groundless bases which isnt fair to anyone. same with with Allah mode...

Devil's Dictionary · May 10, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

There is a difference between Bob and Hot Sticky Loads.
Translation: stop the whine.

Care Less · May 11, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13

I feel UO bannigs comming up for GW soon..

once people see that the "i find this to be offensive" stuff works they will abuse it to the bone

lets say im on my monk named Care less X

and i kick the living hell out of Legolazzz1337 and hes team

Now Legolazz selfestem sucks and he wants vengance! and fast so he thinks up a fast
and sad story involing the words Care less ..and sends it of to AN ..No GM really gives much of a crap about reading those things (honestly) so hes just deletes that char and its end of story..NOT

the next day Legolazzes friend

l0rd r0xx0r's team mate wont sell him that nice sword
the team mates name is "Warrior "insert typical name here"
so l0rd r0xx0r sends of a email stating that he finds Warrior to be very offensive since Warriors have killed alot of people duirng the years and it makes him cry and go wee wee in hes pants .. Warriors get deleted

and so it goes

Kik2k · May 11, 2005, 03:05 AM // 03:05

http://forums.gwonline.net/showthrea...5&page=3&pp=10

I knew it, this name banning is BS, I randomly reported 50 people as having a "offensive name" seems like they got banned reguardless of their name.

sorry dr pepe....

Inde · May 11, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Its easy to decry idiocy when you do not have the whole story.

Furthermore Kik2k, I deem you to be a troll. You have done nothing but post about your name being banned. How do we even know you are not lying?

And to end it all, I am Canadian, and seriously find it to be sheer idiocy the name you took [mention Canadian due to the American blanket statement]. I am tired of people who try to push the rules, and then whine like a 5 year old when they are punished. 'Hot sticky load' can be easily interpreted as perverted, and you know that.

Kik2k · May 11, 2005, 04:03 AM // 04:03

I contacted, Anet on saturday moring 8 am still no answer, My char had around 100 hours of game time, its a PVE Char. My Char was banned and its still banned. I pretty much lost all my stuff, around 90k gold, + runes+ equipment. The reason why im pushing this issue so hard is because they "assume" this name is perverted. If you think about it anything can be assume that way, I can assume all people name "BoB" is a slang for typing "Boobs" or all person named dick stands for "p***s". Also Anet never gave me a reason why i was banned, nor an answer to any of my emails. Its either this is a glitch or Anyone that gets reported gets banned. Then you bet people will be exploiting this.

Inde · May 11, 2005, 04:08 AM // 04:08

I will agree that ArenaNet should have let you changed your name.

But, your argument is still insipid.
Bob = common name
Dick = common name
Hot Sticky Load = antithesis of common name. In fact, its most common usage is perverted.

Kik2k · May 11, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Heres a pic of my guy in underworld

another pic

Kik2k · May 11, 2005, 04:14 AM // 04:14

You have to understand how frustrated i am about this, feels like i wasted 100 hours, On top of it Anet dont even answer any of my Emails.

Corrodias · May 11, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

calm down, kik2k, -we- don't need to keep hearing how bad it is. the name sucked. you may or may not be able to get them to do anything for you, but there's a certain way you have to do it to get ahold of them.

the proper way to get a response is to use the "ask a question" feature in the knowledge base, get the automated response, then reply to the email following the instructions (that is, put additional text between the two lines that say 'put text below/above this line'). i did this half an hour ago and i got what appears to be an actual, personal response that states, among other things, that they can only discuss why names were banned with the owner.

at least, it MAY be a personal response. it does look suspiciously keyword-based, but it's your best shot at getting any response at all.

Kik2k · May 11, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

I did that >< saturday moring i even update it monday moring, It just say "In progess" and no answer....

yea i been waiting for a long time, They dont even have a 1800 Number where i can contact them..... I dont think they want to answer my "T H E R A P I S T" Question.

Gaile Gray · May 11, 2005, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Guys, I want to explain about the name situation. There are certain names that are just not acceptable. If I showed you the list, I guarantee a goodly percentage would gasp. Why people think it's ok to name their character #*(%&5#*head in a game that's designed to be pleasant for all players is beyond me.

So, right now, we don't have the ability to offer name changing options. The only thing we can do, right now, to maintain some level of reasonable game environment is to ban the character. This does not mean that's our preferred method of dealing with this -- we're hard at work on getting in other options in the very near future. But please, trust me, when you see 50 or 100 names and they make you blush, they're that bad, you need to know that in the short term we're acting in the best interests of the majority of our players.

A lot of times, I'll review the list, and I'll even discuss a particular name with several other team members. I have to admit, today's discussion was "Is 'ho' and 'pimp' a really offensive term?" We're getting alerts by the droves, but honestly, is that a truly nasty name, or just a sort of not-so-good name? (What do you guys think?

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I'm pretty liberal, but there are names that make me feel sort of ill. There are names that make me disappointed that people can't use more common sense. There are names that make me think of the mom who wrote asking if I could recommend Guild Wars for her 10 year old. I love kids! What do I say, "Sure, but be sure you have the filter on high and that you put on blinders when the little girl is in town!"

Bottom line: We are working on a system that will make name blocks less punative.

Bottom bottom line: A little sensitivity and a little consideration and you won't have to worry about it in the least, right?

thaumaturge · May 11, 2005, 05:55 AM // 05:55

I appreciate your response Gaile, I'm sure we all do. But isn't the game rated for Teens (13+)? Now I'm not one to tell you what is acceptable for young kids, but parents should certainly consider the repercussions of exposing a 10 year old to a 13+ year old rated game. Also that fact that it is online which opens up a whole world of nasties.

I won't be shy to admit I love Guild Wars, but I am certainly not going to be shy in admitting I am disgusted with the approach taken on a "Mr Pepe" for example. I mean really this is a classic example of how the world has gone mad. Firstly the decision to catergorize this player's name as inappropriate was a bad one, secondly even if you have more borderline names there should have been a system in place to counteract this. Couldn't you have simply changed the name on ths spot, rather than banning? I'm sure the player would much rather put up with a "Julius Randomised" name rather than being locked out.

Now about the alernative methods for inappropriate names: Will characters whom have been banned previously from names get the chance to reclaim their characters and continue playing?

Edit: I see you replied to the posted thread and have given "Mr Pepe" back his character, so once again there is hope for the world.

Gaile Gray · May 11, 2005, 06:18 AM // 06:18

At this point in time, I am/we are unable to (1) rename a character or (2) address a player and ask that he/she rename the character. I want to say that this isn't the final answer, and this admittedly isn't the optimal answer, but when you're pressing towards release, you do have to make choices in what makes the release version of the game and you do have to make a lot of tough decisions. Some of these are: Do we allow names of any sort and kind to show up in the game? Do we want the most graphic of sexual terms? Do we want racist names that are sure to offend not just members of a certain culture but any thinking person? And the answers would be that no, of course we do not intend to have unfettered offensiveness in the game and we're going to control that within the game world. Having made that decision, we, acting for you, really want to take the gentlest measures, but fully realize that some sort of action is required, action which may be constrained by the current technological options available. A character block now could be a "rename, please" in the near future.

In the short term -- emphasis, the short term, the here and now -- we have to block the account. In the long term -- when we're not working to meet a release date and can properly address this very-complex issue with the degree of caution and concern to which it is entitled -- we will have other measures in place to better address this issue.

Our objective is to allow a reasonable level of self expression while maintaining a appropriate degree of social acceptability. If someone intends to offend, or hurt, or harm, or revolt, by choosing a name with that purpose, he or she deserves to be prevented from that harm. In the long run, the community needs to be maintained with some degree of appropriate behavior. We intend to monitor only to assure that things stay within that reasonable and favourable boundary, for the good of the community as a whole, while remaining mindful of the desires of the individual community member.

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Originally Posted by Kik2k

I did that >< saturday moring i even update it monday moring, It just say "In progess" and no answer....

yea i been waiting for a long time, They dont even have a 1800 Number where i can contact them..... I dont think they want to answer my "T H E R A P I S T" Question.

You are joking, certainly, on the disingenuous use of this example. I don't think anyone disputes that this is a coy and nauseating abuse, oft played in game world, and one that ought not to take place in Guild Wars. If someone truly wishes to claim their alleged "profession," then let them name themselves, "The Therapist." To do otherwise is to insult those of us with even just half a brain who can surely figure this out and aren't about to be snowed by the pious claims offered in defense of such a silly example.