Curse

Spirit Firefly · Jun 02, 2005, 10:27 AM // 10:27

I doubt it. When UK had that BSE i never went hunting for meat. How would i skin an animal apparently i dont have a knife which is why im using my teeth and why don't macdonalds issue me with a knife and fork on purchase if its so much easier surely it wouldn't send their overheads through the roof.

Some people like to fight its in their nature some people like to run its in their nature.

"Dought" = abbreviation for doughnut? i'm confused.

DraieGardo · Jun 02, 2005, 11:27 AM // 11:27

ok i see its not much point debating but anyway

You dont hunt livestock, When uk had BSE civilisation hadnt colapsed so no you wouldnt be hunting.

A burger is all parts of a cow churned into a mussy lump of crap, its fast food, ofcourse you dont use a knife and fork.

It does not take much to learn how to smelt metals and produce a metal blade, a blade does not have to be metal, it can be made from the many durable recources availible eg stone or bone.

Everyone runs at some point, only a fool would confront an opponent far superior than himself and only someone who is far superior will come out uninjured.

I made a miss spelling, its not hard to work out the meaning i intended but just for you it was Doubt

Spirit Firefly · Jun 02, 2005, 11:47 AM // 11:47

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Originally Posted by DraieGardo

instead of using our hands and teeth we use a knife and fork which is a much more efficent way to tear apart that what we are eating.

ok im quite bored now;

You said take away butchers/supermarkets not animals. Even cavemen kept the modern day equivalent of livestock.

See quote you said eating so basically no knife and fork is not efficient. KFC is also fast food with meat on bones. Do we require a knife? Please give me one good example where it would be more efficient to use a knife and fork than hands and teeth.

I think you are overestimating people. Look at that 4 foot ninja lol. You could take him right? You don't know he has the potential to kick your ass. And no some people like to fight.
How does doubt turn into dought? How can that be mispelled like that. Its like spelling A as a L.

DraieGardo · Jun 02, 2005, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Your just starting an argument m8. But you could take me right?? anyone can talk crap to anger another.

Your adding in bits here and there, im giving you an answer then your saying naa kfc this, cavemen have that i mean cmon m8.

My original post was about people being Good and Bad, and the natural instinct of man is to survive, we are meat eaters which make us preditors.

I stat that people assume that we were born good but are slowly becoming bad people. But i stat we are born savages anyway and become good instead.

Now im gonna play your game and misteriously add in that guting and striping an animal would be done quicker with a knife ooo i forget we are jus talking about eating off a plate. So yeh your right with the food, pick up a lump of meat in your hand and chew away and itll proberly be alot quicker.

And no the average caveman did not have livestock, they were most proberly hunter foragers. If you can prove me wrong, do so, id much rather know the truth about my mislead conceptions.

Why are you bored, go do sommit you like. Or did you choose to respond jus to say your wrong to someone.

Yojinj · Jun 02, 2005, 12:52 PM // 12:52

Our race is just too... much for this world. I get easier upset when i read/view anything about harm to animals then to humans. But then many ppl told me that i have a twisted point of view.
If another race would show up and blast us into abyss i would understand them.

Still i'm sorry to read that about the first post. But it's always the wrong people that die first -_-

The_Communist · Jun 02, 2005, 01:09 PM // 13:09

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Originally Posted by pHobac

I'm secure in my masculinity!

If you are going to eat chocolate while crying, you definetly are not secure.

I feel your pain aswell.I am going to go drown my troubles in System of a Down songs.

Spirit Firefly · Jun 02, 2005, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Bored because i am at work

Meat eaters = carnivore not predators.
A carrion Vulture doesn't kill things but it eats meat where as a lion is a predator.

The bible begs to differ and states that everyone is born in a state of original sin. Original sin is the sin that all of the human race were thrown from a higher plain down to earth due to Adam eating an apple the dumbass. Then our lives progress as to cleanse ourselves of the sin so we can go back to the higher plain. So if this is the theory you want to use then we are all born bad and some die good.

Your original statement indicated that you were referring to eating off a plate as you swapped my spear for a knife and fork. So no i would not use a knife and fork to gut or strip an animal because most knife and forks wouldn't pierce your skin unless maybe it was a steak knife

a spear would probably do a better job.

In South Africa there is a tribe called the Maasai who are basically cavemen in the sense that they live off the land hunt all their food and use their own medicines and live in self made houses. This is the closest equivalent to the way ancient humans would have lived and yes they have livestock. If you want photographs of cavemen standing around a pen with pigs in then i am sorry but i don't have one to hand.

Pevil Lihatuh · Jun 02, 2005, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Your looking at us as if we were some how non violent saintly people in our great past. We are no different than any other preditor exept the fact that we are in all weak but had the intelligence to create technologies to aid our survival.[quote]

I just have to disagree with this. Maybe once we were the same, before we got intelligence. Predators kill for food. Some animals (few) will kill for breeding rights. However humans will kill for anything; hate, sex, anger, even pure enjoyment. And not just our own kind. I dont want to start a debate on this, but take fox hunting. If people want to kill a fox to eat it, then ok, sure, go ahead. At least there's a point. But killing it because "its fun"... *sigh*

anyway there was something on the news today that made me this of this topic; in England at the moment there's an investigation into attempted murder; what is believed to have happened is a 5 year old boy was lead away from his own back garden by a group of 12/13 year old (both boys and girls), who then tied a rope round his neck and attempted to tie him to a tree. 'Luckily' the boy escaped with only bruising round his neck and on his body, and some very deep shock.

Aloren · Jun 02, 2005, 07:10 PM // 19:10

I don't see us as good saintly people. Every is born with an evil streak in them. I believe in the balance ( the yin and yang if I spelled that right).

Being good isn't about being saintly. It's about knowing how to control the darker urges that humans can get. It's about waking up everyday and trying to do at least one nice thing to help someone around you.

If I can get just one other person to do "good" unto others, then my job is complete. I refuse to lose hope... Not all in this world is lost. Not all is fallen to the shadow... not yet.

Volarian · Jun 02, 2005, 07:33 PM // 19:33

Well I too am secure in my humanity, and if you feel/felt like crying NO ONE and I MEAN no one has a right to think you less of a man or say so otherwise because it's UNMANLY to think you can't show emotions like that simply because of your anatomy.

As for the unfortunate situation you experienced (and this isn't to belittle the victim) - When did a man WANTING to be with or spend time with their girlfriend, who I assume he was very much in love with; become CLINGY??? If you don't want to be in a serious relationship where each person willingly choses to devote time and effort to their partner....tell em so upfront....that or just stick with 1 niters. Our society is in a sad state - people looking for instant gratification, we teach that divorce is ok, people being scared to express their feelings up front (like not wanting a serious relationship) because it may jeopordize what THEY want....never giving consideration to what the other person is wanting or what they're expectations are. It truly is sad

ManadartheHealer · Jun 02, 2005, 07:48 PM // 19:48

First, not crying is unnatural and is actually bad for your health.

Second, people are born greedy, immature, selfish, and violent. As we get older, some of us stop reacting in some of these ways. The problem is the majority of people out there that aren't mature. They are still greedy, selfish, and violent. And I don't get why people are so greedy. No matter how much shit you accumulate, you will die someday anyway. So rather than consuming your pitiful existance with lust, why not sit back and enjoy life? And, if you can't enjoy life, don't make someone else's life miserable.

Third, it's funny (in a sadistic sense) that in "christian", "civilized" countries, such things happen. Goes against what should be common sense I suppose.

pHobac · Jun 02, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54

I read the article about the girl that was murdered this morning. And now I am really upset.

The Full Story

If you dont want to read it I will give you the short version, she was one of the lost children of Sudan. She was part of a 1200 mile reffugee trip barefoot across the Sahara Desert. She was "lucky" enough to escape a civil war and make it to the U.S. only to be stabbed 20 times by her ex boyfriend.

ManadartheHealer · Jun 02, 2005, 08:24 PM // 20:24

That man is rediculous...

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"...I am not killing her because she broke up with (me), I am killing her because she was unpolite to me. I always pray not to take someone life, but stupid people like Roda made me to..."

We can infer so much from just this statement. First, he is rather uneducated, because it is "impolite", not "unpolite". Second, he is impulsive and rash. People are impolite to me all day every day, but I have yet to do anything as brazen as this. Third, we can infer that he is "religious", or pretends to be so, what with the "I always pray..." bit. And last, he is a weak person who is unable to accept any blame himself. Nobody can force anybody to do anything. At some point you make a consciouss decision. Also, his decision was premeditated, which is even worse than a "spur of the moment" decision. He is also conceited, as in the article they pointed out that the victim was very intelligent and had a bright future.

In spite of all his inadequate traits, he decided he had the right to end somebody else's life.

I personally hope he rots in prison for life. I feel the death penalty is a bit too "soft", and it also sends the wrong message. You don't stop violence with violence.

Aloren · Jun 02, 2005, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I agree with that, this man may think he's religious, but he really isn't.

There's a fine line between religious and zealous, and this man was actually neither. He just didn't have all his marbles together...

It's really sad that he can't even own up to what he did. That boy needs to realize that it's time to stop blaming others.
I realyl doubt someone walked up, grab his, arm put a knife in his hand and repeatedly forced him to stab his ex. He made the decision for it.

Dreamsmith · Jun 02, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

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Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

I personally hope he rots in prison for life. I feel the death penalty is a bit to "soft"...

Bingo. People who do this sort of thing should be punished, and you can't punish a dead man. Why would we want to give our worst criminals the easy way out?

Omega_2005 · Jun 02, 2005, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Because, unfortunately, political law is scrutiny and even talking about the truth gets you locked up in jail/prison...!

ManadartheHealer · Jun 02, 2005, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by Omega_2005

Because, unfortunately, political law is scrutiny and even talking about the truth gets you locked up in jail/prison...!

Are you saying poltical law=scrutiny?

And I do agree about the truth getting you locked up; but if you're the "whistle-blower", chances are the coorporation/mob/or such will kill you before you get to jail...

Omega_2005 · Jun 02, 2005, 09:15 PM // 21:15

TO Manadar: yes, everything to do with law (UK especially) is that liers and do-gooders get away with pathetic or no offenses, while the truthful and/or innocent gets killed/suicided/imprisoned for extremely long times... I hate my country so much, I want to go to America or Japan...

ManadartheHealer · Jun 02, 2005, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by Omega_2005

TO Manadar: yes, everything to do with law (UK especially) is that liers and do-gooders get away with pathetic or no offenses, while the truthful and/or innocent gets killed/suicided/imprisoned for extremely long times... I hate my country so much, I want to go to America or Japan...

Like how Enron basically got away with it? That sort of studd happens in the US too... Can't say it happens in Japan, haven't lived there

Just a little question: How can someone get "suicided"?

Omega_2005 · Jun 02, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42

well er... I meant they "commit suicide" because of all the stress in jail and the proof that ???? is still at large makes them take their life. But back to the subject, there has been news about kids attempting to murder an Innocent 5 year old boy!! how cruel is that!?