Curse

Kampfkeks · Aug 26, 2005, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Seriously, who doesn't know the typical Wa/Mo Farming Warrior? They have plenty of places they can farm to their liking and they are just totally screwing the economy by it.

A typical way to do that is by abusing vigorous spirit and live vicariously in a way they were not intended to be used. When combined with Cyclone Axe or hundred Blades those skills heal a multiple of times instead of just the one time they should heal. This makes up for nearly invincible Warriors that can farm just everything that has not enchantment removal on it, and even enchantment removal mobs to some degree.

Nerf it, it is abusive and an exploit of those two skills. Make it so it only activates ONCE as it is intended, not a multiple of times you hit an enemy with one skill.
Be honest Arena.net... you nerfed every class except the wa/mos out there. Why?

Kabale · Aug 26, 2005, 10:06 AM // 10:06

Oh please.............

Leddy · Aug 26, 2005, 10:14 AM // 10:14

But they're NOT invincible. They're just healing fast. W/Mo's deal pretty crappy damage, unless they're smiting, in which they're not really in the best smite build they can be in.

I'm not really worried about W/Mo's, its only the Mo/W's which just got nerfed that i was worried about, that was REAL quasi-invincibility.

00039 · Aug 26, 2005, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by Kampfkeks

Seriously, who doesn't know the typical Wa/Mo Farming Warrior? They have plenty of places they can farm to their liking and they are just totally screwing the economy by it.

A typical way to do that is by abusing vigorous spirit and live vicariously in a way they were not intended to be used. When combined with Cyclone Axe or hundred Blades those skills heal a multiple of times instead of just the one time they should heal. This makes up for nearly invincible Warriors that can farm just everything that has not enchantment removal on it, and even enchantment removal mobs to some degree.

Nerf it, it is abusive and an exploit of those two skills. Make it so it only activates ONCE as it is intended, not a multiple of times you hit an enemy with one skill.
Be honest Arena.net... you nerfed every class except the wa/mos out there. Why?

I smell a whining Mo/W farmer

Jade · Aug 26, 2005, 10:31 AM // 10:31

Ya, he may be whining, but he has got a point. Wa/Mo's have been farming the hell out of the game loooooong before the Mo/Wa was even thought of. But did they nerf any of the skills that make the Wa/Mo so tough? Nope.

[bbf]mostdeadly · Aug 26, 2005, 11:35 AM // 11:35

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Originally Posted by Kampfkeks

Seriously, who doesn't know the typical Wa/Mo Farming Warrior? They have plenty of places they can farm to their liking and they are just totally screwing the economy by it.

A typical way to do that is by abusing vigorous spirit and live vicariously in a way they were not intended to be used. When combined with Cyclone Axe or hundred Blades those skills heal a multiple of times instead of just the one time they should heal. This makes up for nearly invincible Warriors that can farm just everything that has not enchantment removal on it, and even enchantment removal mobs to some degree.

Nerf it, it is abusive and an exploit of those two skills. Make it so it only activates ONCE as it is intended, not a multiple of times you hit an enemy with one skill.
Be honest Arena.net... you nerfed every class except the wa/mos out there. Why?

warriors already suck enough please dont cry out for more nerfing

warriors are far from invincible they have low energy and dont have any advantages like divine boon or energy storage

there elites suck and the few good spells they do have semi suck

Personaly I think they nerfed enough nerfing is never good ever people leave over nerfing economy gets worse over nerfing and widens the gap usualy of those who have and those who have not and or werent able to take part in what was nerfed

the patch i saw today had very few good things and alot more nerfing then it did offer balance or more skillz im very disapointed this was no where near the fluff they had us beleiving and in some ways some proffession are far more powerfull then before

which leaves us right where we started

Lu Cheng Ying · Aug 26, 2005, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Why can't you people just be mature players? If you see an advantage, use it. If you are stubborn or too stupid to use the advantage, stop whining!

A.Net/NCSoft needs to take a hands off approach and let use play this damned boring game ourselves!

Savio · Aug 26, 2005, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Lu Cheng Ying

A.Net/NCSoft needs to take a hands off approach and let use play this damned boring game ourselves!

...says ther person who has a Mo/W or has never dealt with spirit spamming.

Perishiko ReLLiK · Aug 26, 2005, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Shut up with your nerfing to the farming builds...

One thing i must state in bold letters so you idiotic bastards that disagree can see it.

Every Class Can Solo In Its Own Places

Next line, now you see... the only class i cant solo good with is the mesmer... perhaps we just need to pump up the mesmers solo abilities and call it even...

If you're really too stupid to find a build that you can solo farm with, then you suck. Seriously... Skill descriptions make all this possible. You read, you understand, and you Win. This game is not hard... You're one of those bastards that dont bring a res signet into 4v4 i bet...

Lu Cheng Ying · Aug 26, 2005, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by Savio

...says ther person who has a Mo/W or has never dealt with spirit spamming.

I have a Mo/W, but no ranger. And it's not impossible to defeat Ranger team with spirit spamming. Just need to have a good head on.

NR totally kills Mo/W. For that matter, any good mesmer/necro pwns Mo/W...so there...what's your point?

Seems people that whining just plain suck and can't be innovative enough to overcome an problem so they go crying to mommy & daddy (and A.Net/NCSoft is far too happy to placate!)

Van the Warrior · Aug 26, 2005, 05:09 PM // 17:09

what a loser all this person does is complain about farming well you know what TOUGH just because you suck at this game doesnt mean the WMo is going away Anet wont be washing your balls not now not ever and as for Mo/W or Mo/whatever they will still be able to farm and while your at it go beg Anet to nerf 3 man UW smite groups your a moron dude 100% grade A dropped as a kid moron

Kampfkeks · Aug 26, 2005, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

what a loser all this person does is complain about farming well you know what TOUGH just because you suck at this game doesnt mean the WMo is going away Anet wont be washing your balls not now not ever and as for Mo/W or Mo/whatever they will still be able to farm and while your at it go beg Anet to nerf 3 man UW smite groups your a moron dude 100% grade A dropped as a kid moron

You just proved a fact that you are really by far too dumb to understand sarcasm and the stylistic means of irony. You just did real well proving it... i might add.

No. I don't really want the Warrior/Monks to be nerfed. In fact i want NO ONE to be nerfed. If you don't believe me, look up my posts i made before the whole protbond nerf came out. You'll even find a post stating that i wasn't even farming with it (only with a Wa/Mo earlier... *SHOCK*) and i have an attitude to let others do what they want.

The whole point of this thread is to show the community... something is just great while getting nerfed if it does not nerf YOUR thing. One could argue many hours that using the two spells (Live Vicariously and Vigorous Spirit) is abusive and exploitive or not. The point is, they allow for serious solo farming by doing more then the skill description says they do. Do i care about them farming? No, not really. Does it bother me? No. Do i whine about the prot bond nerf? Hell no, couldn't care less.
What is my complaint against? Guess, you can do it.

Hint: Overall nerfing is a bad bad move. You just can't take without giving. That only works for so long, until all has been taken. And the typical farming Paladin was the best victim to show the community this problem. Why? Because it is the king of the farming hill.

So honestly... nerfing does not work. It makes only a portion of the players happy and pisses off the other. And while the other portion is pissed... the untouched portion just might become in the very near future when all of a sudden THEIR build is in the line of fire when the nerfbat is roaming the land. Who will support you then? Did you support the other classes pleas? No. Do you really expect them to support you then, because your build is more "righteous"?

So, once again. This is not a whine about the protbond nerf. It is a wake up call concerned the wishes to nerf others. Done dio.

Night Daftshadow · Aug 26, 2005, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Ha, I laugh at this thread!

Kampfkeks · Aug 26, 2005, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by Night Daftshadow

Ha, I laugh at this thread!

So would I...

.. if my point just wouldn't have been proven so perfectly. Actually that is kinda sad. Just look at how aggresive they have become, to the point of very... VERY personal insults just because i dared pointing a finger at their "righteous" farming build.

killer toast · Aug 26, 2005, 06:12 PM // 18:12

they should just nerf everyone until everything sucks that would make people happy

Rusty Deth · Aug 26, 2005, 06:12 PM // 18:12

lol this is a funny thread...

But I am sad to see that my Mo/Wa got nerfed. Oh well : (

But on the plus side, Healing Seed only costs 10 energy now. Weeeee!!!

Mormegil · Aug 26, 2005, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Van the Warrior

what a loser all this person does is complain about farming well you know what TOUGH just because you suck at this game doesnt mean the WMo is going away Anet wont be washing your balls not now not ever and as for Mo/W or Mo/whatever they will still be able to farm and while your at it go beg Anet to nerf 3 man UW smite groups your a moron dude 100% grade A dropped as a kid moron

Time to use some punctuation dude. Really. And maybe, less coarse language.

stumpy · Aug 26, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

will you guys stop crying about whose farming and what class is changing the economy?

I have been farming since about 3 days after release as soon as I got to LA ...

Grow up! It will be around forever, stop crying .. andgo back to school. I am sick of seeing you plague a once prominent forum. If any of the betas have a hidden url to a prominent forum pm please ...

Back to topic ... I wish I could laugh when I read this thread ... but every class is still fine. My monk still famrs as good as he did 3 months ago. My warrior i hardly ever use atm except to service guild members, my god i hardly pray to anymore because he just keeps smiting me with his own version of BA (for the next 2-5 days your eyes will suffer 10-22 damage each new topic you read, and you will suffer from 'dreams of the past, when life was good' until school starts and the kids go back)

... Anet can swing any bat they want, but my defense will just climb the big green monster and reach up and stop that home run once again. So it is really a pointless battle. I dont like soloing the U/W .. the fun died fast. I prefer a bit of a challenge. hurray ... the 525 is back!

capitalist · Aug 26, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

I can't believe they didn't nerf pets. They are way overpowered, and now they run faster.

Seriously guy...

Jigs · Aug 26, 2005, 06:38 PM // 18:38

What's with the whining, coz they could farm better than u. They might just have found better way to use their skills to their advantage. Any class could farm if you just found the best skills combo. I am a W/R, I don't have good healing spells but Troll Ungent, but I learned to use my Ranger's wilderness survival skills w/c allows me to last longer in a melee fight w/ mobs.

My N/E, i have Dark Bond, SUmmon bone fiend, bone horror, well of power, Meteor, Firestorm, Phoenix and eruption. First kill some enemies, sumon bone fiends or horrors, use Dark bond to reduce damage to you and the summoned fiend or horrors will recieve most of the damage. when you killed another monster from the mob, use Well of Power so you regenerate fast while inside the circle. I cast spells such as firestorm, meteor on ranged enemies and when I get mobbed, I use phoenix to damage them when they are near me and use well of blood again.

There, I just told you one of my builds for my N/E ,and I find it effective in farming. I have other characters too and also found a good set of combo skills. It;s just a matter of experimenting w/ it.