Curse

darkdragon99 · Jan 04, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

i believe ppl should stop worring about how the univers came to be it's here thats all you need to know

i know how you came to be your mom and dad made you

my belief is to stop worring about the things you can't explain or what is gonna happen when you die worry about the here and now

Naprius · Jan 04, 2006, 12:16 PM // 12:16

There should be one religion if you ask me, one that everyone is happy with. that has got it all.

but that won't happen. so maybe it's better to ban religion all together. too often people do terrible things in name of their God. It's nuts.
Crush the infidel?? kill everyone that is not of (fill in religion)?

whats up with that?

I don't have a religion , except my own. I hope there is something after death, and if there is a god, i won't worship him/her because thats just not right. If He/She loves everyone equally we don't need to worship. We're all part of him / her, so we're equals.

What we people made of religion is just a reason to slaughter and steal in the name of someone else.

I'm not having it.

Numa Pompilius · Jan 04, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

"Everyone should believe in something. I believe I'll have another drink."
-- W.C. Fields.

Raptox · Jan 04, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by Xue Yi Liang

I believe I need another drink.

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

"Everyone should believe in something. I believe I'll have another drink."
-- W.C. Fields.

So, what're we having? I've got this round.

Yeah, I know we're derailing. We're in the dining car.

Oronar · Jan 04, 2006, 08:55 PM // 20:55

I was baptized in the Greek Orthodox Church as an infant, and that was about as far as my involvement in any religious organization has ever gone. Throughout my later teen years I struggled somewhat with my lack of belief and eventually settled into atheism, more or less. Haven't really thought of myself as atheist until recently though. I'm also what some call a 'soft' atheist, meaning I have no god-belief, but also don't assert that there is no god. Simple as that.

Haroldinium · Jan 04, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

i believe in both science theory and religous theory regarding creation... big-bang (let there be light) created the heavens and earth (matter flung out into space) animals craeted, followed by humans (evolution)
i think people had there little differences with both theories in the past, and over time these differnses had exaserbated

ty3c · Jan 05, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Im a independent scientologist or at least my parents are

Btw I do think tom cruise went nuts being my parents are part of the same group they dont act like cruse did on the today show

Im a sane person dont worry and so are my parents

We are not part of that church we are independent.

Lou · Jan 05, 2006, 06:02 AM // 06:02

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Originally Posted by ty3c

Im a scientologist or at least my parents are

Btw I do think tom cruise went nuts being my parents are part of the same group they dont act like cruse did on the today show

Im a sane person dont worry and so are my parents

I don't mean to flame but what excactly is scientology. It sounds like plain aethiesm to me. With bits of christianity mixed in so it doesn't offend the die hard religious people.

sino-soviet · Jan 05, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

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Originally Posted by Azeroths Hammer

I don't mean to flame but what excactly is scientology. It sounds like plain aethiesm to me. With bits of christianity mixed in so it doesn't offend the die hard religious people.

Hmm...I think of it as pure Christianity. Science is pretty much irrefutable fact; it is a way of knowing. It is truth. I think that even religious people believe in the existence of science. Therefore, it seems like it is just a religion where science is "taught".

TheEPIC · Jan 05, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Umm, Scientology is an odd thing to say the least. I had to do a research paper on the religion back in high school. Basically, from what I remember, Scientology as L. Ron Hubbard created it preaches that you can "cleanse" yourself of you bodily impurities (I believe the term used to name them is "thetans") through a series of procedures and following their practices. Once, man is cleansed of these thetans, he is able to achieve anything. Originally it came from Hubbard's book Dianetics.

It has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, and very little to do with science (despite the name).

If you are interested in what they say for themselves check here

I'd also suggest that if you want to learn more about Scientology, you should look at some websites that are not officially connected with them, since the only way they will share their materials containing their teachings with you is if you send them money.

If you are really interested PM me and I can direct you to some sites where you can find information (particularly those sites I used in my research paper).

ty3c · Jan 05, 2006, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by TheEPIC

Umm, Scientology is an odd thing to say the least. I had to do a research paper on the religion back in high school. Basically, from what I remember, Scientology as L. Ron Hubbard created it preaches that you can "cleanse" yourself of you bodily impurities (I believe the term used to name them is "thetans") through a series of procedures and following their practices. Once, man is cleansed of these thetans, he is able to achieve anything. Originally it came from Hubbard's book Dianetics.

It has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, and very little to do with science (despite the name).

If you are interested in what they say for themselves check here

I'd also suggest that if you want to learn more about Scientology, you should look at some websites that are not officially connected with them, since the only way they will share their materials containing their teachings with you is if you send them money.

If you are really interested PM me and I can direct you to some sites where you can find information (particularly those sites I used in my research paper).

My father gives that stuff out all the time to people he wants to help

he gives out books,tapes, anything if someone wants it

it used to be like that LRH was not a greedy person and he gave his stuff away for free this other nut who took over after LRH'S death is the one who changed things he does not want people to have better lives LRH did.

that much I do know

I am an independent one as well im not part of that church it has turned from something great for all to a greedy money driven bizness

at least my fathers does not belive in money he gives the stuff to people in need of some help

you may not think im telling the truth but we dont brainwash anyone and I am not a UFO and I dont belive in them

Im a normal person if you knew me you would know why not contact me message me to find out who I am

The undead Mesmer · Jan 05, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I dont believe in annything religious at the moment i do believe in science and the evolution

and if i can believe in games yay il believe in that

SOT · Jan 07, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

Since my other post got removed, ill try a different tack.

When one professes a faith in a power over their lives, do they ever stop to ask the question "why"? It is an eternally unanswerable question.

For me personally? There is no why. There just is.

Scientifically speaking, it has been proven, field tested, and mother approved a thousand times over that certain species of primates, as well as the great apes, have reasoning power that SURPASSES an ordinary human being. They simply cannot speak their minds. Yet their minds are aflutter, yes indeed. This leads me to the conclusion that our dominion over this island earth has made our race egotistical, and our creationist and expansionists views on some diety sitting up in a mothership is playing gameboy advance with our species are stupid beyond hope. I find that absurd, and outright insulting to my neurological workings.

The most intelligent animal on zoological record, believe it or not, is the common oceanic octopus, and it's related kin. In a field experiment, on Animal Planet, I watched them place an octopus that had been bred isolated in a nother building, into a large aquarium. They then proceeded to lower a large wine bottle with a starfish and a crab inside, sealed with a cork, into the opposite end of the ecnlosure. The creature went over to the bottle, and in literally less than 8 seconds, upchucked its own stomach onto the cork, which softened it with juices from its digestive system, then removed the cork, stuck in its guts and one tentacle, and removed the prey one by one. This entire scenario was clocked in at 13.4 seconds. This is an octupus, not a dolphin, not koko the gorilla. This is an animal we think to be slimy, stupid and without reason, doin what would take a 3 year old human hours (on a good day).

That tells me we don't know shit. And there isn't anyone explaining it to our small brains.

I believe that, were such a "force, being, potato salad of almightyness" such as god to exist, we would be so far beneath its interest as to be insulting to look upon, and it wouldn't bother. I mean, cmon, when you can create a black hole because your ass itches, what's a few people discussing you on some forum? please!

Ultimate Warrior · Feb 20, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

Hah Im surprised this thread never got closed... but also happy because I did not start this thread for it to get closed.

Swehurn · Feb 20, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14

I myself am a Roman Catholic....and I'll break the rest down into point form.
- I believe that there is one true God...
That he has chosen to manifest "himself" as different things, to different people at different points in time...meaning that regardless of which religion you choose, in the end we essentially believe in the same being. I believe that "he" has chosen this method, because faith is the one thing that any religion requires and as human beings we like options...and besides if there was only one "god" to believe in that would negate free will and be more like a dictatorship.
-I don't believe that a lot of the things in the bible are accurate, or factual..I believe they are metaphors...ideas, guidelines etc.
-I believe in evolution...to me it is a fact. I am much more humbled by the idea of having descended from an ape etc...through the process of millions of years of evolution, than I am by the story of creation. To me this makes God even more the amazing.
-For as much as I may write "he" "him" etc, I do not believe that God is actually male, it's for ease of conversation.
-I don't believe in a central hell...where all the evil people go..I think we get our own individual ones. hehe..and I don't think that it's a permanent destination. I think that forgiveness can always be found, so long as you truly repent and you come to realize and understand the harm you have done.
-I refuse to believe that homosexuality is a guaranteed passage into hell...I refuse to see it as a sin. I may not truly understand it, but it's not my right to judge...take your love and happiness where you find it.
-I believe in Jesus, that he died upon the cross (for our sins) and that a miracle took place after his death.
-I believe that by in being true to yourself, you are in fact being true to God...even if at times your choices put you at "odds" with your religion.
-I believe he does not punish those of us who question. For I believe that true faith can only come from one who has known doubts, who examins things closely, see flaws or concepts we cannot comprehend fully, but still say at the end of the day "I believe"....maybe not in all of it...but I believe you exist.
-I believe that I may come across are a heretic. heheh
-I believe that faith in anything (bigger than yourself) is all you need to reach heaven, so long as it's pure and it hurts no one.
-I believe that it''s very late, I've made and arse load of typos and now it's time to sleep.

BTW please don't feel the need to send me flame PM's as this is my husbands account. Also, you'll be wasting your time. My Uncle is a Catholic Priest and I've told him the same things I have written here...he couldn't change my mind...you won't either.

Soul Shaker · Feb 20, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Christian, plain and simple. Evolution is a possibility, because for those of you have read it, quote God "a day for you is like 1000 years for me". So 7 days, could be 7000 years or more of creation.

And of course, for the skeptics, easiest argument- if i told you i was alive, would you believe me? If i told you that i had a father who you've never seen or heard of, and i said he was alive, would you believe me? Now, if i told you that Jesus lived, would be you believe me? What if i told oyu he was alive? Saying no will obviously make you contradict your own reasoning and logic.

Lady Lozza · Feb 20, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Atheist.
BTW scientifically the 4th dimension is time

Accurax · Feb 20, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by Volarian

You don't know but rather believe there is a God.
You don't know but rather believe there is a devil.
You don't know but rather believe there are angels and demons.
You don't know but rather believe that all of the universe was created, spoken into being.
You don't know but rather believe there is right and wrong, that they are not debatable nor changeable.
You don't know but rather believe that humans are now, by nature, sinful beings. (interesting for so many to belive in a "kind god" who created sinful by nature species and choses to punish them for being sinful??)
You don't know but rather believe that God loves us.
You don't know but rather believe there is a Heaven, where God is.
You don't know but rather believe there is a Hell, where God isn't.
You don't know but rather believe that God sent His Son as a sacrifice for our sins, so that we may be reconciled to God through His Son.
You don't know but rather believe that Jesus was born of a virgin, conceived by the Holy Spirit.
You don't know but rather believe that He was God incarnate, in the form and nature of a man.
You don't know but rather believe that He was sinless.
You don't know but rather believe that He was crucified and died.
You don't know but rather believe that He was raised from the dead.
You don't know but rather believe that He ascended to Heaven, where He sits at God's right hand.
You don't know but rather believe that all of us will stand before God and answer for our sins.(which based on previous statement that we are by nature sinful plus the fact we were created that way, would that not make God sinful?)
You don't know but rather believe that Jesus' death on the cross, and my faith in Him being who He claimed to be and in His resurrection means my sins are atoned for.

No flaming please - belief is individualism, something god gave us.

No Flaming??? ... so what is your post then? .. lmao leave him alone

If he wants to "believe" that he "knows" there is a god etc... then let him

Accurax · Feb 20, 2006, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Oh.... I believe in myself....

I believ that i am the master of my own destiny

I believe that I am the force that guides me

I believe that my choices effect those around me as they also affect myself

I believe that i must stand accountable for those choices and be able to justify them in my own mind.

I believe that all men & women are born equal & that there actions from that poin on make them more or less so.

Anthony01355 · Jun 13, 2006, 06:38 AM // 06:38

I don't know what I'am. I'm more closer Christianity than anything. I pray to God at night I belive the bible has meaning but is not true word-for-word. I belive there is a "Heaven" a place we go after we die and live for eternity. I belive that no matter what name someone calls "God(s)" we will all end up in "Heaven" or "Hell" based on are actions and how we spent living our lives.