Curse

N1ghtstalker · Aug 03, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

hi,

i don't know if this has been discussed yet but this is something that just can't be ignored
i just saw the clip of the event and i am actually shocked about this
the two soldiers are talking about the puppy and being cute and then the next moment the soldier holding the puppy just tosses him in the cliff, followed by howling of the little puppy

i am not going to post the movie here but i want to adress the matter of what the hell is going on in the minds of those soldiers
i can't believe how someone just throws a puppy down a cliff and acts like it was nothing
seriously f*cked up

[DE] · Aug 03, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Old story is REALLY old.

Neo Nugget · Aug 03, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by [DE]

Old story is REALLY old.

it still sucks.

First time I've heard about it.

zwei2stein · Aug 03, 2008, 08:14 PM // 20:14

They took job in where killing human beings is usuall and often main goal.

Are you suprised they are a bit RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up?

Arkantos · Aug 03, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

Quite old, and nothing compared to the two innocent Afghan children getting accidentally killed, and the man who was savagely decapitated on the greyhound bus by an unprovoked stranger imo.

Earth · Aug 03, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

the man who was savagely decapitated on the greyhound bus by an unprovoked stranger imo.

This.

That is one of the most RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up things I ever heard tbh. People who do that shit should be shot in the head imo.

Nevin · Aug 03, 2008, 10:10 PM // 22:10

He severed the head in the bus and showed it to a crowd of 30-40 people through the windows.

As for the puppy, that is truly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up. More so then severing a head in my opinion, the man who did that may have had a certain amount of hate towards his own race which some may find understandable. It's rather hard however to hate a puppy, takes a bit more evil. I say this because humans kill humans on a weekly basis, the dude who severed a head on a bus would fit right in with terrorists who do it god knows how many times a week.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Nevin

He severed the head in the bus and showed it to a crowd of 30-40 people through the windows.

As for the puppy, that is truly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up. More so then severing a head in my opinion, the man who did that may have had a certain amount of hate towards his own race which some may find understandable. It's rather hard however to hate a puppy, takes a bit more evil. I say this because humans kill humans on a weekly basis, the dude who severed a head on a bus would fit right in with terrorists who do it god knows how many times a week.

Killing a puppy is more evil then killing a human? The guy had a family, the dog is just a dog. Dogs can be replaced, family members cannot.

pamelf · Aug 03, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Animals are innocent and can't defend themselves. Both are horrible situations, but the reason people get so up in arms about animals dying is that the human race feels obligated to protect things that can't protect themselves.
Animals are in that category, therefore the human mind automatically springs to that being the greater evil. People do bad things to each other every day. It's become part of our lives. Killing 'domesticated' animals however is beyond our every day experience and therefore horrifies us more.

Arkantos · Aug 03, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by Nevin

He severed the head in the bus and showed it to a crowd of 30-40 people through the windows.

As for the puppy, that is truly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up. More so then severing a head in my opinion, the man who did that may have had a certain amount of hate towards his own race which some may find understandable. It's rather hard however to hate a puppy, takes a bit more evil. I say this because humans kill humans on a weekly basis, the dude who severed a head on a bus would fit right in with terrorists who do it god knows how many times a week.

You're joking, right? An animal was thrown off a cliff, a humans head was decapitated after being stabbed 50-60 times. It takes a lot more evil to chop off a freaking head than to throw an animal. The terrorists have a reason - to make the world fear them. The man who stabbed the guy had no motivation, no reason. THAT is fked up.

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Animals are innocent and can't defend themselves.

A sleeping man on a bus listening to music is more defenseless than a puppy. A puppy would be able to at least attempt to bite, a sleeping man can't do shit.

I find it very sad that people find throwing a puppy off a cliff worse than a psycho cutting off a strangers head. Really makes me wonder some other things you people think.

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It's become part of our lives. Killing 'domesticated' animals however is beyond our every day experience and therefore horrifies us more.

Pretty sure fearing to go on a bus because you're scared of getting decapitated in your sleep is far more horrifying then seeing a domesticated animal killed. The former scares the shit out of me, the latter doesn't.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Arky, some people spend too much time on the internetz...it's the only reason I can think of.

Lasareth · Aug 03, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

I never knew evil was qualitative. To me something is either evil or not. And killing in cold blood for no (good) reason is evil.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Fair point, but placing a dog over a human is just wrong.

I pwnd U · Aug 03, 2008, 11:11 PM // 23:11

Wow this story is from like 2 or 3 years ago. I do believe these soliders got court marshalled for that if I remember correctly. Kinda done with.

As for the other arguement, people>>>dog. People are def more important then a dog.

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Yeah. Only came to light when they were up on charges.

Nevin · Aug 03, 2008, 11:15 PM // 23:15

And placing a human over a dog isn't?

Humans do not deserve the right to judge one creature over another, this is why I side with the puppy who does not have that ability. All in all its opinion however and there is no way to clearly dictate which side of the matter is right, its all part of what the individual believes. Just because I feel that humans as a race on Earth have caused more harm then good to each other and to the planet, does not mean that the innocent man should have been killed for wrongs of his kind. I do however know that the puppy is much less capable of anything a human could possibly do.

I pwnd U · Aug 03, 2008, 11:20 PM // 23:20

Go join Peta iif you are so concerned about it. The fact is that a human can easily affect this world more then one dog. A humans life is much more important because of that then a dog. Yes it was wrong to kill the dog BUT saying that it is just as bad for them to throw a dog off the cliff rather as killing a human is so wrong. A humans life should always be valued over that of an animal. It's like the fire department rescuing a puppy instead of a baby. There would be riots if that happened, but if they rescued a baby instead of the puppy people would be singing their praises.

Lasareth · Aug 03, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Saying one type of murder is more important than another serves no constructive purpose other than to imply murder is more acceptable in some situations. The point is, it isn't, regardless of what situation it is.

Killing for sustenance is of course different, but that can be debated by some as well (just not me).

Malice Black · Aug 03, 2008, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by Lasareth

Saying one type of murder is more important than another serves no constructive purpose other than to imply murder is more acceptable in some situations. The point is, it isn't, regardless of what situation it is.

Killing for sustenance is of course different, but that can be debated by some as well (just not me).

Depends on your point of view really. You're a man of the law if I remember correctly, so your views will differ from mine. I think it's perfectly acceptable for a parent to kill a pedophile for example. Others will say murder is murder no matter what the person has done.

I pwnd U · Aug 03, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by Merriam-Webster Dictionary

the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

Not murder if you don't kill a person. So therefore one cannot murder a dog.