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HuntMaster Avatar · Jul 08, 2009, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by Ghost Omel

Must Disagree... over the cours eof his governing he has done good.. Taking in affect that he is a movie star wihtout any prior position in government he is doeng god damn good job. + before he came to office the state was in the shithole he is holding up rather well and is doing a fine job.. Taking inot the account of his joints disease and constand medications he has to taker to keep his bones together.. Cyt him some slack...You should research what he has done for the state before bashing him.. unles ofcourse you look only at people failures and not thei successes.....

And yeah disregarding my post.. i also thouhgt it was celeberties and his family that paid for that.

He helped bankrupt the state. He also increased prices on everything when people can't afford rent and are out of work and losing their homes. He's also sending out IOU's to people on SSI and other special needs. He's not helping anyone.

I don't care about his medical issues or his celebrity status. He's failing at his job and costing people more than they can pay. I won't cut him an inch of slack. Do the job right or get the hell out. He's not a carnival ride worker. Hes a governer and if he can't do the job to the best standards of the people he governs, then he doesn't need to be in the position in the first place.

I don't need to research what he's done. I'v lived in cali my entire life. I'v seen everything he's done or tried to do and I pay attention to the news in every form. He's a moron and hurting the state more than helping it and plenty of people are pissed off with him, some are scared at what he's going to do next. He's bleeding the people dry.

Shursh · Jul 09, 2009, 04:44 PM // 16:44

i read an article this morning that said the city spent 1.4 million on the funeral, or something like that...sorry i don't have the link, it was on google news though if you care to search for it.

off-topic: funny thought - would you rather hear about endless MJ stuff on the news, OR...the new harry potter movie that is releasing within the week??

i was surprised at how little i've seen on the new movie, considering the previous ones had nearly 3 weeks of potter-mania preceeding them.

Ghost Omel · Jul 09, 2009, 05:28 PM // 17:28

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Originally Posted by HuntMaster Avatar

He helped bankrupt the state. He also increased prices on everything when people can't afford rent and are out of work and losing their homes. He's also sending out IOU's to people on SSI and other special needs. He's not helping anyone.

I don't care about his medical issues or his celebrity status. He's failing at his job and costing people more than they can pay. I won't cut him an inch of slack. Do the job right or get the hell out. He's not a carnival ride worker. Hes a governer and if he can't do the job to the best standards of the people he governs, then he doesn't need to be in the position in the first place.

I don't need to research what he's done. I'v lived in cali my entire life. I'v seen everything he's done or tried to do and I pay attention to the news in every form. He's a moron and hurting the state more than helping it and plenty of people are pissed off with him, some are scared at what he's going to do next. He's bleeding the people dry.

No changing your mind..no need to bother.. Understand why you are upset...Just a question.. Do you have a better person to become a governor? of the Entire state..not just a City...Just you know curious maybe you already have some 1 in mind. After all if you are elcted you are elcted for a reason...Even though he might have been chosen because of his Movie Legend status or maybe for some other reason...In Any way.. Why blame a governor if you can go al the way up and blame the president he makes the decisions that affect the entire country right -_-

In any case researched it abit more...Yeah you are right...maybe you should look in your head ( you dont want ot research it) as to why he did it.. definetly not enrigh his own pockets right.. he has eanugh to let his kids grnadkids to last -_-

AidinSwiftarrow · Jul 09, 2009, 06:10 PM // 18:10

It's Michael Jackson, who gives a shit about him. He was nothing more than a pop star.

Shursh · Jul 09, 2009, 09:40 PM // 21:40

i don't know who all will care, but below is an essay that a friend wrote a while back. now, unfortunately, it seems like a fitting obituary. i hope that each of you will take a few moments to read it.

thank you, Michael - for being the voice of my generation and others'.

From an early age, this man has appeared in the spotlight. He has revolutionized the music industry numerous times through his creativity and art. He has risen and fallen a success - and a failure. Through his music he sends messages of love and understanding, yet his songs prove a contrast to his turbulent past and notorious lifestyle. Add killer dance moves and one has Michael Jackson, the 'King of Pop', epitome of the American dream of success, wealth, and popularity, yet a man enveloped in scandal and controversy. Nonetheless, Michael Jackson represents the voice of our generation: he symbolizes the changing times not through his attitude, sexuality, and the messages he stands for, but, like any good artist, through his music.

In today’s society, when one hears Michael Jackson’s name, he may do one of two things: smile or cringe. Those who smile think of Jackson’s music, whereas those who cringe think of his notoriety and questionable lifestyle. True, to say Michael Jackson’s history can be considered 'controversial' would be an understatement; after all, no one can overlook the bleaching of his skin; the falsetto voice - possibly the result of surgery tightening his vocal chords - marrying and soon divorcing the daughter of the 'King of Rock ‘N’ Roll'; or being involved in an enormous child molestation lawsuit. A number of Jackson’s songs stimulated a controversy, including 'Billy Jean', in which Jackson sings of an illegitimate child, or even his 'Black or White', a song addressing racial harmony and equality, yet made into a music video ending with Jackson violently smashing in car windows with a baseball bat.

However, Jackson can be considered the voice of our generation not in what he has or has not done, but how he can recover from such negative publicity and harsh stereotyping. Where Jackson has fallen, he has risen two-fold. Jackson has recorded some of the most popular, widely known songs of the era, including 'Thriller', which has topped the billboard charts in past years, and which many music critics consider to have had one of the best music videos yet produced. The Thriller album holds records for being one of the highest grossing albums ever made, and even today continues to sell. Jackson’s marriage to Lisa Marie Presley has come to be considered not only a failure but also a joke in the public eye, but that does not mean Michael knows nothing of love: songs such as 'The Way You Make Me Feel', 'Rock With You', 'Baby Be Mine', 'Butterflies' (most recently) and countless others all reveal Michael’s truly innocent belief of what affection is.

However, Michael Jackson’s true influence on society comes from the meaningful messages he wishes to share. In a country that still suffers from repressed racial prejudice, Jackson attempts to tell America what many fail to understand – that it doesn’t really matter. 'Black or White' addresses these serious issues in a song that is upbeat and lighthearted, telling the listener that it really is easier to just ignore an issue that is so trivial, yet remains so controversial. “I’m not going to spend my life being a color”, states Michael, and 'Black or White' tells us that we shouldn’t either. Change is a major theme in Michael Jackson’s music, and 'Man in the Mirror' exemplifies such a message. Jackson states that if one wants to make a change in the world, all he has to do start with himself. He tells listeners everywhere that changing the world doesn’t require a revolutionary breakthrough, but merely a realization that something needs to be done. Jackson states that the first step in change is wanting do something, and that “if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself, and make that change”.

When one thinks of the turbulent life of Michael Jackson, one must wonder if he has any regrets. If he does not, then he defiantly uses his past to express his messages of change and acceptance. Forever an iconoclast, Michael was not completely unaware of the changes taking place in his own life, or the judgment fans and critics began placing on his shoulders later in his career: in 'Will You Be There', Michael almost pleads, revealingly, "Everyone's taking control of me, feels like the world's got a role for me, I'm so confused, will you show to me you'll be there for me and care enough to bear me?"

If one cannot love Michael Jackson for whom he is, or if one cannot forgive his faults in what he has done, then how can we expect to love and forgive one another? If we cannot overlook his skin color, how can we overlook each others'? If we cannot put his past behind us and forgive his mistakes, how can we overcome our own regretful experiences and forgive ourselves?

Jackson inadvertently asks society these questions through his life and his music. His is an agreeable message of love, acceptance and change, but is one that some listen to and some refuse to hear. Even if one cannot overlook Jackson’s misgivings, the changing times we face call for a new, different voice for the generation, not necessarily a positive one, not necessarily for a positive world. Michael Jackson represents the worst of our day and age, yet also the best: the epitome of failure, and the embodiment of success; the bringer of controversy, yet the speaker of peace; the fallen hero, yet always a rising phoenix. Jackson has entitled his most recent album 'Invincible', and when one reflects on what he has gone through, how he has recovered, and what he stands for, indeed he is invincible, and teaches society to be the same.

Ghost Omel · Jul 09, 2009, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Nice essay.. i dont know i might be wrong but it looks like its written by highschooler.. no offfense i am most likely wrong.. I mean so much examples but i didnt feel some personal input.. bah nice essay regardless.

Jumping Is Uselss · Jul 09, 2009, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Shursh

i don't know who all will care, but below is an essay that a friend wrote a while back. now, unfortunately, it seems like a fitting obituary. i hope that each of you will take a few moments to read it.

thank you, Michael - for being the voice of my generation and others'.

Your point.................?

Shursh · Jul 09, 2009, 11:08 PM // 23:08

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Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss

Your point.................?

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Originally Posted by Shursh

Jackson represents the voice of our generation: he symbolizes the changing times not through his attitude, sexuality, and the messages he stands for, but, like any good artist, through his music.

^ that. please read the whole thing if you didn't.

and yes Ghost, this was written when we were seniors in high school (2003), for a college application (and before you ask - yes, he was accepted, attended, and graduated).

bhavv · Jul 09, 2009, 11:22 PM // 23:22

The dude got famous over his accusations of touching little boys (go go media power!).

He made and performed music. Big deal. He didnt deserve such an expensive funeral being paid for by the state unless his family paid for it.
When I die I just want to have anything that is still usefull salvaged, then just burned and tossed into a river. Or maybe they could feed my body to a hungry animal. Theres a good way to make use of the deceased.
Feed teh LionZ!

Well, they couldnt have done that with MJs body, that would kill teh lionz from uncurable extra terrestial food poisoning.

And then we might have gotten Zombie lions after they got infused with MJ's JEBUS POWA and raised from the dead.

And then a lion would bite a human and make zombie humans ...

We could have used the aliens body to make zombies damnit!

Maybe his bewbiez also have his JEBUS POWA, feed 'em to teh lionz NAOW!!!

Oh no wait, dont, cos then the state would pay for the funerals of alien's children.

But dead MJ and dead baby jokes being put together? GENIUS.

Hate messages to follow soon =D.

Helix Dreadlock · Jul 10, 2009, 01:21 AM // 01:21

What about a BILLY MAYES funeral?

OMFG, the items he pitched...the money he made.....the beards he's shaved!!!

Jumping Is Uselss · Jul 10, 2009, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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Originally Posted by Shursh

Jackson represents the voice of our generation: he symbolizes the changing times not through his attitude, sexuality, and the messages he stands for, but, like any good artist, through his music.

Well he definitely is not a voice of my generation. And how does that essay answer what the OP has pointed out ?

So basically you are saying, we should pay for his funeral because he is a voice of a generation? Fine by me, but just don't use tax payer money to do it.

Shursh · Jul 10, 2009, 02:28 PM // 14:28

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Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss

Well he definitely is not a voice of my generation. And how does that essay answer what the OP has pointed out ?

So basically you are saying, we should pay for his funeral because he is a voice of a generation? Fine by me, but just don't use tax payer money to do it.

well i have no idea how old/young you are, so perhaps he isn't the voice of your generation. i was born in '85, but grew up listening to MJ - sadly, he spent my teen years and beyond in seclusion and scandal, but i respect the messages of his music and the influence he had on the industry.

that essay does not answer the OP's question, however i thought it summed up why LA was willing to pay for part of his funeral.

I am in no way condoning the use of taxpayer money to pay for someone's funeral - I guess what I'm saying is that, as a voice of my generation, I'd be willing to shell out a few bucks in thanks for the joy his music has given to me.

In fact, I think a lot of people would:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je1KOcBYGjM

Dante the Warlord · Jul 10, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01

It probably generated something - think about all the viewers and ads that went on (were there any - i didn't see it). They could have charged for tickets though....