Dec 15, 2009, 10:34 PM // 22:34
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: P(r)oland
Guild: S O T H I S
Profession: Me/
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Avatar the movie = Eye of the North
I think lot of you have seen Avatar trailer. For example official page one: http://www.avatarmovie.com/, or the shorter one on youtube.
The Pandoria forest, levitating rocks and this world scenery, so strong reminds me Asura land from EotN!!!
For example this concept art shows all (watch this and trailer):
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1192732580
I think its some kind of plagiarism. Also it's said film is strongly inspired by Anderson book from '52.
What do you think about it? I'm confused, I had so strong deja vu when I watched Avatar trailer. Its only me?
Last edited by nivelis; Dec 16, 2009 at 09:54 AM // 09:54..
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Dec 15, 2009, 11:25 PM // 23:25
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy
Guild: [ban]
Profession: W/
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Floating rocks, landmasses, castles, etc. are a common theme in fantasy, faerie tales, sci-fi, etc. Plagiarism isn't the word you're looking for. James Cameron started working on Avatar long before Eye of the North.
edit: Apparently someone else noticed and posted the similarity.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/m...ghlight=avatar
Last edited by MisterB; Dec 16, 2009 at 12:20 AM // 00:20..
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Dec 15, 2009, 11:48 PM // 23:48
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Raged Out
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RL dwarfs should sue every fantasy movie, game, and book that used them.
and whoever invented elves
and goblins
and more
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Dec 16, 2009, 12:24 AM // 00:24
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2009
Profession: N/
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How about you remove the 'Plagiarism' accusation from your title, because Arena Net doesn't have the copyright on every single fantasy element or idea ever.
And, you are right, you are confused. And uninformed. Arena Net, Cameron, and anyone who's taken a stab at fantasy can pretty much thank Tolkien, Geiger, and Gygax for creating the genre. So bickering over some entity who implemented one idea 2 years ago ripped off another entity who did something similar 3 years ago is pure nonsense.
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Dec 17, 2009, 12:35 AM // 00:35
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P
Guild: The Gothic Embrace [Goth]
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EOTN was part of Prophecies originally and they were going to release it but changed mind at the last minute and sold it as a separate package IMHO. So EOTN plagiarised Prophecies I think. I think even the EOTN was part of the map floating around in beta but I never saved it.
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Dec 17, 2009, 03:05 AM // 03:05
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Jungle Guide
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Horizons had "Floating rocks" two years before Guild Wars, and something else had them years before Horizons, and something else years before that.
No plagiarism involved in any of it.
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Dec 20, 2009, 07:38 AM // 07:38
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Singapore
Guild: Royal Order of Flying Lemmings [ROFL]
Profession: Mo/
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No plagiarism involved, I agree.
Mind, I definitely got Asuraland vanquishing flashbacks.
Especially when the pissed-off dinosaurs turned up.
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Dec 21, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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Avatar: In development for ~15 years
EotN: Released 2 years ago
Floating rocks in fantasy: Way longer
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Dec 21, 2009, 06:40 AM // 06:40
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
RL dwarfs should sue every fantasy movie, game, and book that used them.
and whoever invented elves
and goblins
and more
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I think Tolkien has been dead for some quite time. Although I think he would be even more amazing if he managed to sue someone.
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Dec 21, 2009, 07:13 AM // 07:13
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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He has a son.
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I came when I heard you'd beaten the ELITE FOUR.
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Dec 21, 2009, 07:36 AM // 07:36
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fenix
He has a son.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Tolkien
Sure does. He finished off and published one of his father's books that he didn't finish.
Anyway, floating rocks/structures isn't really an original idea, and it's definitely nowhere near plagiarism.
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"Even if the morrow is barren of promises,
nothing shall forestall my return."
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Dec 21, 2009, 09:08 AM // 09:08
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Grotto Attendant
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Niflheim
Profession: R/
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His son didn't really invent the elves or orcs. Sure his son has the rights and so on, but.... yeah. He only finished books, he didn't actually invent anything.
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Dec 21, 2009, 09:09 AM // 09:09
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Major-General Awesome
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger
Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ̖̊̋̌̍̎̊̋&#
Profession: W/
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But whatever his dad invented, means he can sue for.
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I came when I heard you'd beaten the ELITE FOUR.
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Dec 22, 2009, 11:18 AM // 11:18
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Pre-Searing Cadet
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Hi friend I have seen the movie itself, its very nice and the forest and mountain is shown in the movie is just imagination of a director but I dont think that is not even available in any planet. If you have a chance then watch the movie without fail.
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Jan 07, 2010, 10:09 PM // 22:09
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Guest
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yep.
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Jan 07, 2010, 10:56 PM // 22:56
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: A/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flubber
yep.
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haha wow
12chars
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Jan 07, 2010, 11:28 PM // 23:28
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über těk-nĭsh'ən
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinitys Creature
EOTN was part of Prophecies originally and they were going to release it but changed mind at the last minute and sold it as a separate package IMHO. So EOTN plagiarised Prophecies I think. I think even the EOTN was part of the map floating around in beta but I never saved it.
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your opinion is wrong. even if you are right, EotN did not "plagiarise" prophecies, since both are original works done by Arena Net.
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Jan 08, 2010, 10:07 PM // 22:07
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Somewhere between the Real World and Tyria ;P
Guild: The Gothic Embrace [Goth]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moriz
your opinion is wrong. even if you are right, EotN did not "plagiarise" prophecies, since both are original works done by Arena Net.
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my opinion is wrong.
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