Curse

carnage-runner · Jan 08, 2011, 12:28 AM // 00:28

It's simple enough to say "go see a doctor and get a prescription for some medication" or "go to a therapist they will help you get through it." The fact of the matter for many people is, as Verene said, that you can't trust anyone enough to believe them or listen to them. How do you cope with traumatic events that alter your life? Drugs certainly can dull the sensations and make you a zombie, but that's not a nice feeling (I've been there). You can't suppress emotional trauma with medication in my opinion. It's something that isn't just a happenstance, it's a serious life altering event that changes how you view and value life. I'm 21 and arthritic in my knee and have memory problems from many head injuries. I do not value my life highly because it's uncomfortable and in relation to how I once was it is pathetic. Thus, depression. I can't take anyone else seriously, or care about how they feel because I constantly resent them for everything they can do that I cannot.

I think that may be how some of you feel, but I'm not going to claim it is. I resent people therefor I alienate myself from them, making myself lonely, which gives you ample time to dwell on your own misfortune, and ultimately leads to depression or something like it.

I don't know... I'm past the "end it all" stage. I consider the idea than realize how embarrassing it would be for me, to submit to something like that. But just because you're not suicidal doesn't make it ok. Living life in a constant misery is not fun. Actually it sucks. For me anyways... Life was fun. Memories aren't as fun as actions.

Anyone else have anxiety problems? I think it may contribute to my feelings of depression like symptoms but I don't know for certain.

Meh. What do ya do ?...

Divinitys Creature · Jan 08, 2011, 01:09 AM // 01:09

I just want to give some positive advice to the depressed, based on what worked for me (therefore may or may not work for you IANAD - I Am Not A Doctor)

Do something simple and with a constant stream of reassurance. I used to work very hard on long term projects in business (depressing and full of uncertainty) but when I switched to a position of selling a few things or services each day, things became much more easy. Because a few times a day I would make someone happy and they would make me happy in return. Also spending time with kids and animals within the family gives a lot of happiness. Animals give unconditional love - like a cat or dog or even a goldfish.

Also I would not go see a doctor without someone trustworthy to go with you for support. Yes all doctors are not perfect and it can take a few tries to find one that actually helps you. Watch out for ones that have 'ulterior' motives.

Simple things in day to day life like cleaning routines help a lot too. Just have one task you want to accomplish each day and do it. Even if it's just checking the mail or watering the flowers or something. And be happy you did just one thing you intended to do and slowly build up from there (I hope no one is this bad off to need to do this). And don't be isolated from other people.

As far as the long term depression goes you need to know what caused it then fix it in your life or help someone to fix it in their lives. That might help you move on, or it could trigger you so be careful with that.

Anyway it's sad to hear quite a few people here seem quite depressed. I hope you all get better.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 08, 2011, 01:21 AM // 01:21

yeah trying to do a little bit at a time helps....sometimes my goal is to just make a meal for myself (and yes that is pretty hard sometimes).....my childhood was bad--really bad, and when they say 'enjoy childhood its the best time in your life' I was very discouraged---

yeah I went thru the stages.....and have tried to talk to the nice doctors, but for the amount of help I need I think I would either need to get some real insurance (which would require a job--yep unemployeed on top of it all) or robbing a bank.....eg this aint somthing that is going away quickly (years or decades of help is what is needed---I have done what I could on my own, but since I have very little medical background I can only do so much on my own)...

and yeah having a support group works too (I have none--I have a friend who lives hundreds of miles away and one in a foreign country)......or a supportive family (thats just the opposite of what I have).....

I have a list of goals I try to do on a daily/weekly/etc basis....I try to laugh once a day, I try to clean something once a week etc. sometimes it just doesnt happen (like last week I was sick most of the week so just getting OUT of bed was a feat in itself).

and like most depressed people...I have lost my train of thought-----what was I talkin about again????

Zebideedee · Jan 08, 2011, 09:14 AM // 09:14

I'd be interested to have my dreams translated...

Last one I remember I was in a castle type place, there was an older guy who was there to take care of me and was a replacement for his younger relation of 2 generations in that job. Also, there was a lightbulb in that same dream that was haunted I think, I kept holding the bulb, as the dream went on it was getting more and more noisy/shaking/vibrating and I was getting more and more scared of the bulb as it's power grew....

Nekodesu · Jan 08, 2011, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Junato

For people who claim to see the future I say that thats unlikely. I find you might be logically interpreting your past in your dreams to see whats going to be possible. Like you know you are a good worker at work and you had a dream you got a promotion.

Well, I know for sure you're saying this because you've never had this yourself. It's called 'sandsynt' in my language and it happens to many people. It's very simple, nothing major. I claim to see the future, but I don't see it in a way that it makes any difference, hurts anybody, and so on.

Also they are not really 'dreams'. Which you didn't get, if you had it you'd say the same. They are clips, short clips, of things that happen or just a random scene. Then they happen, and for me they happen days to months later. Then I remember the scene, what I said, and so on, even before I say them.

Junato · Jan 08, 2011, 11:57 PM // 23:57

Well Neko if more people had those dreams and they were thinking about the lottery I would like to sign up with them to find out what they are taking.

But honestly the Documentary that I have seen states (in a majority favor) that dreams are the mechanisms that allow the dreamer to prepare for the next day whether be its a fight, a game to get better, a date, be better at sex, or an exam. If we didn't have that mechanism we wouldn't of had created a world like today.

Also, being clinically depressed I have decided to reread my Neuro-linguistic programming for dummies and I can say that it has given my some sound advice on how to deal with unpleasant memories. Such as my domineering parents. As well I am coming up with questions that are off that can help me such as, is there such thing as a person who exercises daily that happens to have depression?

Verene · Jan 09, 2011, 12:03 AM // 00:03

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is there such thing as a person who exercises daily that happens to have depression?

Yes. Why wouldn't there be? Exercise isn't a cure for depression.

**cosyfiep** · Jan 09, 2011, 02:17 AM // 02:17

exercise is a four letter word to me....but then again I used to walk 15 minutes every morning to the train station (and I mean POWER walk--it would normally take some one about 1/2 hour to walk there)...and then home again at night....as well as climbing steep stairs to the 4th floor of the school I worked at (my office/teachers office was on the ground floor--most of the classes I taught were 1st year--on the top floor).

SO I got plenty of exercise....was it SUPPOSED to help my depression?????

and dreams---are the way the brain clears up what happened during the day as well as prepare for the next ...kinda like the secretary doing the filing before they go home and getting stuff ready for the next day....and yeah sometimes those 'files' are old ones that have been on the desk for a bit....and even if they get refiled seem to get back on that desk again, and again and again...............

Divinitys Creature · Jan 09, 2011, 05:01 AM // 05:01

Exercise is not a cure when you're fscked up with all the judging and sizing up going on at the gym.

Bobby2 · Jan 09, 2011, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Being in shape certainly helps me feel better about myself. It's great to look in the mirror and be pleased with the reflection!

Swingline · Jan 10, 2011, 07:33 PM // 19:33

I have suffered from depression for many years and an energy deficiency as well and I can tell you drugs were not the answer for me. Some people do need drugs as their depression is probably a chemical imbalance, but for those like me that have had a traumatic experience in their life the best thing to do is see a professional and don't let them fill you up on pills. If your therapist or psychiatrist is eager to fill you up on pills without giving you a few tests to see if you have chemical imbalances then you should probably find a new one. Also don't be so quick to get pills yourself, there are great homeopathic medicines in natural food and drug stores. One great sleep aid that is all natural is Valerian Root. It helps to induce a normal and deep sleep cycle and has done me wonders. I even dream more.

Exercise can also help you fall into a deeper sleep and stimulate REM sleep which is why we dream in the first place. I cannot stress the importance of REM sleep. If a person goes without REM sleep there is a huge risk of behavioral and social problems. People who don't get REM sleep can even start to act out their dreams, maybe even going insane. Exercise is not the cure but is a big part of it. Exercise helps to release endorphins which is the chemical in your brain that stimulates a sense of well-being. Being in shape definitely helps a persons depression because that person is accepted and not cast out for being "overweight". One of the major problems with society is that when someone gets in shape they usually make fun of others that are not to increase their self-esteem and thus further inducing the out of shape persons depression. Its a never ending cruel cycle.

As far as dreams go, dreams exist so we can enter REM sleep which is Rapid Eye Movement sleep. If you wish to learn more just google the term REM sleep. There are multitudes of articles on it

Vlad · Jan 11, 2011, 04:06 AM // 04:06

Havent remembered almost any dreams in a good 5 years. maybe nightmares sometimes.