Curse

Etta · Jan 15, 2008, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Anybody seen Urotsukioji? Maybe something for you Malice or Etta

LOL no thx. I'm sure Malice would like it but I prefer something normal.

BTW if anyone have Gundam:Char's Counterattack dvd, try watching it on 5.1, man! the sound effect and music from those battle scenes really do the speakers justice.

And I prefer the dub rather than the sub-title. I was elected to lead, not to read! Alos didn't see anyone mention "Blood: The last Vampire", that was a good little movie imo.

BUt Totoro is still FTW.

ac1inferno · Jan 16, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by mr_groovy

Hmm I can recall numerous people getting discared by hollows?
But that was like in the earlier episodes? Can't recall currently at 155 >.>

Gaara not being explicit at putting a sand coffin on somebody? Lol.

Yay for completely random people dying? Characters introduced that die in the same episode really means alot. Killing does happen, but very rarely. And the killings are usually very minor.

RedStar · Jan 16, 2008, 04:28 AM // 04:28

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I lumped them in the same category as anime aimed for children because they all have a "no kill" rule. Also, they all lack depth and requires you to completely tune out common sense in order to enjoy them.

Yeah I agree, it would be nice to see some people die sometimes, it will make the anime more "alive"

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No Killing in Naruto & Bleach? Hmm Try watching the uncut versions pls. Plenty of dead people there ^^.

I think that he meant no important people. For example Hitsugaya won't die, too much people like him.
In Naruto the only "important" person that died was the 3rd Hokage, but it would've been dumb if he survived after those events + he was old.
And filler doesn't cout.

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That man far surpasses me. I can only wish that someday I will be at the same level as he is. /sarcasm

lol that and the pic made me laugh alot.

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Here you can see actual ones and they don't look that weird. They look pretty normal. They look just like everyone else.

I agree, they do look normal, there's nothing wrong with really liking mangas.

This is someone who likes mangas a little too much.

And this is what I meant by "awkward way". ( I had a more awkward pic, but I can't find it...)

DreamRunner · Jan 16, 2008, 07:12 AM // 07:12

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

I lumped them in the same category as anime aimed for children because they all have a "no kill" rule. Also, they all lack depth and requires you to completely tune out common sense in order to enjoy them.

FMA is aimed at children? FMA lacks depth? Hah and this comes from someone who think Elfen Lied is depth.

lame weeaboo's are lame

mr_groovy · Jan 16, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

Yay for completely random people dying? Characters introduced that die in the same episode really means alot. Killing does happen, but very rarely. And the killings are usually very minor.

True it might be minor, but still people die. Never questions are asked about them. FMA has some of that too.
Anyways great shows

Tatile · Jan 16, 2008, 09:01 AM // 09:01

Well, seeing as there is a sub-disscusion on character death here, here's what I think:

Most series creators', and their employers, seem to have difficulty killing off characters. This may be due to fear of reprisal from the series' fans. Take a look at the Dallas series (I think that's the one), they killed off the main character of that, then had to re-explain everything as being a dream in a later episode. I think it'd be nice to see more people being killed, main characters that is, in series. In fact, during the Hueco Mundo excursion in Bleach, I was really hoping Rukia would die. Sadly it didn't happen.

Lordhelmos · Jan 16, 2008, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Hmmm, my thoughts on anime currently are: Claymore = Win. Awesome end to season II. Of course I lost count as to how many guts were ripped out, heads lopped off, people split in two, how many people were impaled by giant iron stakes, how many arms and limps were chopped off, and how many goodyear blimped sized buckets of blood were dumped out during the course of the series.

KartMan · Jan 16, 2008, 10:49 AM // 10:49

hmm currently following bleach and one piece

watched some new stuff too :
minami-ke
bamboo blade
pretty funny ones I must admit

Sleeper Service · Jan 16, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57

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Originally Posted by Tatile

Well, seeing as there is a sub-disscusion on character death here, here's what I think:

Most series creators', and their employers, seem to have difficulty killing off characters. This may be due to fear of reprisal from the series' fans. Take a look at the Dallas series (I think that's the one), they killed off the main character of that, then had to re-explain everything as being a dream in a later episode. I think it'd be nice to see more people being killed, main characters that is, in series. In fact, during the Hueco Mundo excursion in Bleach, I was really hoping Rukia would die. Sadly it didn't happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_shield
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArmour

Empire should have WON.

Athrun Feya · Jan 16, 2008, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Gundam SEED (quite obviously)
Elfen Lied
Loveless

Tatile · Jan 16, 2008, 12:23 PM // 12:23

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Originally Posted by Athrun Feya

Loveless

If that's the one I'm thinking of (cat boys, gay love, school kids etc.) I've seen it as well. I've seen alot of anime in fact, probably too much to remember.
Still, the Pokemon movies are great, in a childish happy-ending kind of way. Go Darkrai!

ac1inferno · Jan 16, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

FMA is aimed at children? FMA lacks depth? Hah and this comes from someone who think Elfen Lied is depth.

lame weeaboo's are lame

A valid argument or defense would be an explanation as to why Full Metal Alchemist has depth or as to why Elfen Lied lacks depth, not name calling.

Dev121 · Jan 16, 2008, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Edited to be the nice guy. I watched dragonball z when I was 7 then I turned 8 and you can guess the rest of the story. Is dragonball z even anime and the question is who are you people and what is the purpose of this thread.

Tender Wolf · Jan 16, 2008, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by DeVaNeY121

Anime is porn. THATS ALL.

Technically anime porn is hentai.

And that's not what this thread is about, I guarantee it'll get closed if people start spamming that.

Celestial_Kitsune · Jan 16, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

A valid argument or defense would be an explanation as to why Full Metal Alchemist has depth or as to why Elfen Lied lacks depth, not name calling.

I agree, there is no need for name calling.

Elfen Lied had a good story, but its potential was ruined by excessive amount of gratuitous nudity and violence.

Full Metal Alchemist (FMA) won several awards and gained popularity in both North America and Japan. It might appear that FMA is for children due to numerous goofy moments throughout the series, but they are always appropriate, and, when needed, the story turns much more serious, touching many moral and ethical topics: life and death, religion, redemption, racism, genocide, loyalty, friendship, etc. It is this ability to mix action, adventure, comedy, and drama with good storytelling involving multi-dimensional characters that makes FMA a great anime.

Fril Estelin · Jan 16, 2008, 11:07 PM // 23:07

And we forgot to mention ... .hack ! The closest anime to GW because it's about MMOs

I prefered a lot the .hack roots sequel, which is more mature, but the original and other series were fun too. (while we're at it, all anime fans who enjoy MMOs must see the cult movie Avalon)

I also enjoyed Last Exile.

And Totoro FTW indeed! (the latest Ghibli, Tales from Earthsea, is good but not great)

P.S.: prejudices are strong against anime, which is sometimes a bit too "raw" (GITS is an absolutely amazing manga but the nudity stuff can go very far, btw the original manga is a must-read with Masamune Shirow's annotations mentioning scientific paper and theories to explain the GITS universe; the second big manga Man Machine Interface is also very thought-provoking). But in the end, people find what they were looking for, be it pleasure, thinking or nothing.

ac1inferno · Jan 17, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune

Elfen Lied had a good story, but its potential was ruined by excessive amount of gratuitous nudity and violence.

Elfen Lied was one of ADV Film's bestselling and most notorious releases of 2005. The series involves themes of social alienation, identity, revenge and the value of humanity. Unlike other anime which distinctively fall into a specific subcategory, Elfen Lied does not fall under any specific genre, containing elements of horror, comedy, drama, romance, action, science-fiction, and suspense. The anime questions and discusses values based on the way in which humans divide each other by difference, as well as the belief that atrocities such as those committed by Lucy in the series are strongly influenced by the way in which people are treated by their fellow beings. The series frequently discusses the events and treatment which define the human character in such a way, and the problems which arise from discrimination, as well as the wild contrasts between compassion and vengeance between fellow humans, through the strong vengeance of Lucy compared with her past memory of Kouta. Themes such as genocide and the attempts to "purify" the earth from each other also appear in the anime between diclonii and humans. Both species feel the need to populate the earth with their own species and wipe each other out. This is in relation to the desire of humans to cast each other out and segregate each other. One of the most prevalent motifs of the series is the humanity of the diclonius, especially contrasted against the inhumanity of ordinary people. The series is devoted to quite a few of the darker, more callous factors of human nature. Throughout the series there are various incidences of human sadism, casual beatings, cruel experimentation, and outright killing.

True that throughout the series, there is a great deal of nudity, blood and gore, extreme graphic violence as well as psychological violence. The boldness of the first seven minutes of the first episode have caused controversy as to its release. A majority of the episodes contain graphic amounts of violence and gruesome deaths. There is also a lot of female nudity and serious thematic material such as child rape and torture. The series also sometimes has strong language. But, it's because the series is very radical, bold and daring in terms of its plot and content that makes it so good. The series juxtaposes many different tones and genres and mixes insane amounts of violence with a heavy dose of ultra-cuteness. The series balances its darker themes with romantic sub-plots as well as many comic moments.

The series is really a genuinely good watch, a horror series of exceptional merit, certainly memorable and a very special show, good and bad parts taken into consideration.

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune

Full Metal Alchemist (FMA) won several awards and gained popularity in both North America and Japan. It might appear that FMA is for children due to numerous goofy moments throughout the series, but they are always appropriate, and, when needed, the story turns much more serious, touching many moral and ethical topics: life and death, religion, redemption, racism, genocide, loyalty, friendship, etc. It is this ability to mix action, adventure, comedy, and drama with good storytelling involving multi-dimensional characters that makes FMA a great anime.

I have watched the series, Full Metal Alchemist, and the reason why I don't find it enjoyable is because it seems very generic. It lacks radicalness, boldness, and daringness because it's afraid of being controversial and provocative, and would rather be cautious and appeal to than to risk upsetting viewers and the general public. I believe that the reason as to why the series is popular is because it's hard to find something in the series that would upset you (Unless you're Christian, because it does touch upon Christianity). However, it's because of this, that I also believe it is a mediocre, and not a great series. It has nothing to make it stand out from other anime series.

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Originally Posted by Celestial_Kitsune

touching many moral and ethical topics: life and death, religion, redemption, racism, genocide, loyalty, friendship, etc.

True that it has life and death, religion, redemption, loyalty, and friendship, but many other anime series have those as well, so it makes it nothing special. I don't recall it having anything on racism and genocide though.

On a side note, I do find the music from the series enjoyable.

Celestial_Kitsune · Jan 17, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

Elfen Lied was one of ADV Film's bestselling and most notorious releases of 2005.

Unfortunately, popularity does not always equate with quality.

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

The boldness of the first seven minutes of the first episode have caused controversy as to its release.

I would not call it bold - it was just grotesque violence.

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

But, it's because the series is very radical, bold and daring in terms of its plot and content that makes it so good.

It [FMA] lacks radicalness, boldness, and daringness because it's afraid of being controversial and provocative, and would rather be cautious and appeal to than to risk upsetting viewers and the general public.

It sounds like some of the important features of a good anime for you are radicalness, boldness, and daringness. To me, a good story and complex characters are the most important. A good director leaves the most graphic material to the imagination, and such more tasteful treatment of the subject gives a much greater impression to the viewer. Those who don't have enough talent, throw controversial themes along with extreme graphic violence and nudity into a package that sells well.

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

True that it has life and death, religion, redemption, loyalty, and friendship, but many other anime series have those as well, so it makes it nothing special. I don't recall it having anything on racism and genocide though.

Looks like you missed some of the more latent issues in the series. Perhaps, you might have missed other elements that were written between the lines. Ability to read such themes is related to enjoyment one gains from observing any work of art.

P.S. It is considered a good practice to cite your sources. If you pull content straight out of wiki article on Elfen Lied, you might want to give it credit - otherwise it is called plagiarism...

Bryant Again · Jan 17, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by RedStar

This is someone who likes mangas a little too much.

ZE GOGGLES!

THEY DON'T DO #$%@!!!

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Originally Posted by DreamRunner

lame weeaboo's are lame

Anything > 4chan

Etta · Jan 17, 2008, 09:15 AM // 09:15

lol who's that guy s'pose to be anyway? That chicken guy from family guy?