Curse

The undead Mesmer · Jul 21, 2011, 06:53 PM // 18:53

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Originally Posted by Verene

Well, duh. Why shouldn't us artists be paid for our work? Art isn't easy, and takes a lot of time and work. I'm too poor to do work for free, personally, and I value my time a bit more than that!

Because most people use art as a hobby not a job. Also art doesnt take a lot of time. I have a friend who can make a perfectly fine drawing (he can only draw buildings and whatnot he works in the building modeling business) in less then an hour.

So please dont go on a tirade about how artists have to be paid because half of the ones on the internet just do it for a hobby not their job. If it's your JOB as in you dont do anything on the side then alright fine.

It's not like sketches are difficult.

Verene · Jul 21, 2011, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by The undead Mesmer

Because most people use art as a hobby not a job. Also art doesnt take a lot of time. I have a friend who can make a perfectly fine drawing (he can only draw buildings and whatnot he works in the building modeling business) in less then an hour.

So please dont go on a tirade about how artists have to be paid because half of the ones on the internet just do it for a hobby not their job. If it's your JOB as in you dont do anything on the side then alright fine.

It's not like sketches are difficult.

I'm a professional artist, and for anything more than a simple sketch, yes, it does take a lot of time.

And even if it just a hobby it doesn't mean they can't want compensation for their time and effort.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 21, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

yeah, even though I never went professional, I would expect payment for what I had done (I was a fiber artist--weaving etc, just setting up a loom can take hours, not including time spent picking out yarns, winding bobbins, and the actual weaving---and then the finishing!).
LOTS of people have jobs on the side (INCLUDING artists)....why this would make your primary job less of a JOB I have no idea (my husband does IT for a JOB, and has a job in IT on the side--is he not considered an IT specialist because of said side job now????).

I would love to be at the level of competence to get paid for my art--I appreciate and empathize with artists who are struggling to prove that art is really a JOB....

I pwnd U · Jul 21, 2011, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

hot....hot is when its 100 out with 80%+ humidity and you are in a school that has no a/c (what's that???)....and you have to teach! My first few weeks teaching in japan were like that--school have NO a/c (and no heat either), they have......windows

....so you all sweat together---and the smell of 30+ junior high kids sweating....I will leave to your own imagination. Bath by fire....that was 8 years ago and I STILL remember it like it was last week (damnn it was hot)----

Been there, done that. Had that happen once or twice at Roosevelt this year. Hotter than all get out and I'm in my slacks and nice shirt standing by a projector which is giving off at on of heat as well. So difficult to do because NO ONE wants to pay attention.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 22, 2011, 05:48 AM // 05:48

...and taking more than 2 showers a day--man my skin is so dry

and it makes for lots more laundry (which we should not run during the day, however, the assessss here say we cant run it at night either

...stupid stupid stupid....)

well, summer time and with it lighter dinner fare: salad

(am still hungry---)

I pwnd U · Jul 22, 2011, 10:37 AM // 10:37

My fingertips are dry as well. Not cool. Don't really like it. >.> Guess it comes from scrubbing maybe? Idk...

azzer20 · Jul 22, 2011, 12:58 PM // 12:58

what is "art" art is nothing you can label.

I just was at a guide for food, no idea what they are called, well she measured me around chest, legs etc. when we talked, she kept looking at the papers to write, i "accidently" looked at her cleavage all the time, she did look very very cute.

On a side note, why are you discussing art?

Unlucky Slayer · Jul 22, 2011, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Look at the previous page azzer.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 22, 2011, 03:09 PM // 15:09

lol azzer....that is where a lady and a man differ....given the chance a guy will snag a look, given the same chance ( with having a male to look at) only 1/2 of the women would!

oy, and who asked for the rain again?????

kept me awake last night!

Unlucky Slayer · Jul 22, 2011, 03:41 PM // 15:41

I keep asking for rain, it just keeps missing me. Its really pissing me off.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 22, 2011, 04:10 PM // 16:10

slayer---perhaps you need to move?????

you sound like my mom did--she would always comment that yeah it has rained there, but not where she lived!
well at least I dont have to water the plants on the balcony today

the one you love to hate · Jul 22, 2011, 04:42 PM // 16:42

people here where i live are always complaining about it not raining enough... and i just had a convo with the mail lady about this very same topic... i always tell those whiny people this, "don't you realize we have a 96% humidity rate... and two days after it rains we are swarmed with massive mosquitoes..." i would rather exchange no rain for disease filled bugs all over the place

azzer20 · Jul 22, 2011, 05:35 PM // 17:35

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Originally Posted by Unlucky Slayer

Look at the previous page azzer.

Nah, that's too troublesome to me

Most art is crap either way though.

ugly things can be art, nice looking things can be art, stupid looking things can be art, it's like the word "creative" it's just a word people use when they can not put it in a category.

I pwnd U · Jul 22, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I haven't seen much rain recently either. Just a crap ton of heat. I'm ready to be done with the heat. >.>

**cosyfiep** · Jul 22, 2011, 11:43 PM // 23:43

it was nice and cool (if you can call 80 cool) today---the rain took some of it with it east--though not looking forward to the next hit of it-----

had a nice massage today, helped my tmj a lot. (and a nice nap too

)....hubby has really gone fishin' so the condo is MINE bwhahahahahahaaaa!!!

I pwnd U · Jul 23, 2011, 01:22 AM // 01:22

Still cooler than it was here. Another 100 degree day with the heat index... Suppose to to continue to be that hot for the next couple days I guess. >.> Ready for cooler weather I am.

**cosyfiep** · Jul 23, 2011, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I think slayer may have gotten his rain---and we got more, but at least I dont have to go out in the heat today (which is back WITH extra humidity!)....got lots of ....cleaning planned (hubby is away, the wife will------clean?

got some done yesterday, more planned for today as well---).

ah, the dog days of summer....need a nap (should be the cat days)

I pwnd U · Jul 23, 2011, 09:44 PM // 21:44

The heat hasn't left here. Been here all week. Hot again today. Feels like 106 out atm. Air conditioning is a wonderful thing...

**cosyfiep** · Jul 24, 2011, 07:07 AM // 07:07

thinking about that arc again....rain AND heat

though did get a lot of cleaning done so not a total waste of a weekend. (and yep plants got watered without my help again!)

and we have just entered the hotest part of the summer

did you get some rain slayer??????

I pwnd U · Jul 24, 2011, 02:11 PM // 14:11

We have the rain atm, but not the heat. Though it is supposed to appear after the rain dang it. >< Guess if it clears up and gets hot I'll go for a swim.