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Tuor Son Of Huor · Sep 26, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

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Originally Posted by Tobias Funke

For all you fellow nerds who've read "The Silmarillion" it sounds like Abaddon = Morgoth.

YES!

Also, lets remember that Morgoth (Melkor) was also chained and imprisoned behind the door of night. Why? for his crimes against the Valar, Eldar and the Edain. It is also said the he will return and his war will bring about the End of Days.

Sound familiar? Abaddon was probably into some nasty stuff and will be hugely pissed when he is released. War is Coming.

Praise Abaddon!

Sasuke The Betrayer · Sep 26, 2006, 11:42 PM // 23:42

In the nightfall pre release bonus pack there were other several pictures of a god like being, many people claim to be Abbadon. There are others, I believe, and I doubt we can confirm it yet.

Neriandal Freit · Sep 26, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Abbie is not Dhummie, Dhummie is not Abbie.

Dhummie was destroyed by Grenth and Grenth wasn't a god.

Abbie is a banished god, banished by five gods. Dhummie is floating around, dead.

Now, to your destructive part. Yes, it's a possiblity that could fit with Abbie, but I'm sure it doesn't help he was sent to the Plane of Torment.

Solar Light · Sep 27, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Obviously, im still not sure why the margonites would try to ascend if they serve abaddon... bu as far as the desert, they proly vaporised the sea away to make it the desert, but i doubt the storywriter for Nf missed the detials, so we will get it filled in when the times comes.

some guy · Sep 27, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Some 1 told me it's Abbadon

Tuor Son Of Huor · Sep 27, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

The outcast god IS Abbadon. That is made very clear in the Nightfall Preview Event. Spearmarshal Kormir SAYS the outcast god is abaddon.

Nortos · Sep 27, 2006, 12:34 PM // 12:34

In theory then doesn't abadon mean another portal to the underworld and in theory it means that he is the god of the uw correct me if i am wrong but i thought that was grenth? Would be cool if he and this "chaotic god" had some interactions in nightfall.

Sorry :P eddited it

Avarre · Sep 27, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

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Originally Posted by Nortos

In theory then doesn't abbadon mean another portal to the underworld and in theory it means that he is the god of the uw correct me if i am wrong but i thought that was grenth?.

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Also, its Abaddon, let's at least get spelling in here.

Shuuda · Sep 28, 2006, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Praise the Evil one........what, that's me, nevermind.

The picture of the building guy looks "Final boss worth". I like the sound of this new guy, I hope he's more evil than Lich and shiro put together.

Steps Ascending · Sep 28, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Tuor Son Of Huor

YES!

Also, lets remember that Morgoth (Melkor) was also chained and imprisoned behind the door of night. Why? for his crimes against the Valar, Eldar and the Edain. It is also said the he will return and his war will bring about the End of Days.

Just so people don't start extrapolating too much, don't forget that Tolkien's work has inspired a lot of things, i'm sure if you looked deep enough you could find Silmarilion/LotR reference in star wars(Vador/Gaurthor, Voldemort/Nazgul anyone?). Even if GW has been inspired by Tolkien, it doesn't mean that it is a perfect copy or that it will follow the same storyline.

SkyHiRider · Sep 28, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

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Originally Posted by Solar Light

Obviously, im still not sure why the margonites would try to ascend if they serve abaddon... bu as far as the desert, they proly vaporised the sea away to make it the desert, but i doubt the storywriter for Nf missed the detials, so we will get it filled in when the times comes.

well maybe they believed that if they had ascended they could best the mursaat and open the door of komalie for the flameseeker prophecies to come to pass and mark the coming of abaddon and the new age of chaos.

Guildmaster Cain · Oct 06, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Hmm... in the lore of the Preorder pdf on the cd it says that the followers of the (nameless) 6th god battled the followers of the other gods. This devastated the battlegrounds and created the area now know as The Crystalline Desert.

Speculation from this point:
For easy lets say the gods name is Abbadon, though names dont really matter. If you look at the armor of the Enchanted Armors in the Crystal Desert, they resemble the Mursaat armor pieces. Probably the Forgotten animated these armors from the fallen, during the war with the 6th god. Thus implying that the Mursaat were in this war as well, since their armors have been found. Probably this is the war where they defeated the Seer's race. The only problem is, on which side do they both stand? And maybe there aren't two sides, but three.
How does Glint and Kuunavang fit into this? You can't say that the Seer's are a friendly race, since their ally, Glint is a mysterious personality with a seemingly own agenda. Kuunavang was 'corrupted' (willingly if you ask me), by a low life like Shiro, so other highpowered creatures (dragons, gods, demigods) could be corrupted as well.

There was also the speculation that the Seers were the same as the Margonites, which means their adversaries were the Mursaat, maybe defending and fighting for the five gods. That or they were just a 3rd party in the battle of the gods. But keep in mind, they did want to stop you from opening the Door of Komalie, which might be a door to Abbadon, a defeated enemy of theirs.

GLINT = EVIL

shrouded^god · Oct 06, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

One word....Gwen...

DarthLasing · Oct 08, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Hmm. I didn't get very far in preview event. Interesting dialouge though.

Silly Warrior · Oct 08, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38

It's Abbadon, just get it straight....

I'll bet like 100k its Abbadon.

Silly Warrior · Oct 08, 2006, 07:38 PM // 19:38

It's Abbadon, just get it straight....

I'll bet like 100k its Abbadon.

Giga Strike · Oct 08, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39

ill bet all my characters, all my items, money, and all the money or items i will ever get that the outcast god is abbadon.

Tuor Son Of Huor · Oct 09, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

I actually believe that the Margonites were the predecessors of the Mursaat.

Kabale · Oct 10, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Could Abaddon (Dhuum) be manifest of all five gods? He is wielding a sythe reminiscent of a Dervish who can also become an avatar of a certain god. Perhaps Abaddon had the power of all the gods and thus this is why he was so destructive - perhaps the powers of all the gods combined makes chaos and this is why they are in seperate forms. If you want to go a bit further and have fun with speculation, perhaps Abaddon is the father of the five gods and thus encompasses all their powers, however, they didn't like this and overthrew him - sort of like Zeus overthrowing Chronus. Arenanet should really make a movie for Guild Wars They are doing it with Halo, why not Guild Wars?

As I didn't play the preview weekend much, I don't know if this is already known...but I heard that bosses can change professions during battle? In which case this sounds kinda viable-ish.

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ill bet all my characters, all my items, money, and all the money or items i will ever get that the outcast god is abbadon.

Nice, cos it's actually Abaddon.

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PanGammon · Oct 10, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Might even be Menzies. Balthazaar's half brother? The guy who controls the Shadow Army? The Demi-God wannabe?