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SPIRIT OF THE SEA · Nov 10, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

I know that there are the 6 true Gods BUT with every God (s) there is a religon and i havn't seen a temple or church or something like that. I know that NPCS say all hail the 6 true gods in Elona but you dont see them worshiping.

PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it

Theus · Nov 10, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Yeah.Might want to change the title.

It's a little spoilerific.

Kha · Nov 10, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

A. Title should be changed.

2. Not every religion requires open worship like a temple or church.

Does-it-Matter · Nov 10, 2006, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Many religions are not as grandious and "public" as your more modern-day organised ones (Christianity, Judaism, etc.)

Most faiths will have some specific spot that they associate more with their religion than any other spot, that's true. This spot doesn't need to be a structure though. It could be a campfire, a tree, some marks on some object, a pond, etc.

Other times it could be the religon specifically prohibits (or disapproves of) any materialistic significance. So in that case, you wouldn't find a "place of worship" at all.

If you look at the various places in Prophecies, you can point out specific places of worship (sacraficing circle in the wilds, temple of the ages, inside volcano towards the end of prophecies etc.)

SPIRIT OF THE SEA · Nov 10, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

k sry and idc about title just bored so posted it

Chuba · Nov 10, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

There's only 6 gods: Melandru, Dwayna, Balthazar, Lyssa, Grenth and the God of Secrets/Goddess of Truth (depending on whether you look at the timeline before or after the events in Nightfall). They don't have a "religion" of sorts, but all the professions that the player can choose in the game all have their deities among these gods and there are religious orders such as the Lyssa worshippers in Vabbi that clearly stand out.

MrTumnus · Nov 10, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by SPIRIT OF THE SEA

I know that there are the 6 true Gods BUT with every God (s) there is a religon and i havn't seen a temple or church or something like that. I know that NPCS say all hail the 6 true gods in Elona but you dont see them worshiping.

Here's my speculation...

PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it

Wasn't Mhenlo born in the Serenity Temple? I'm not sure if that temple was a place of worship for the Tyrian/Elonian/Canthan gods, or if they just worshiped at the various shrines found around (e.g. the shrine of Balth close to the breach, Melandru in Regent Valley)...

These seem like, at the very least, monuments to some sort of polytheistic religion. If the sixth god was defeated/killed/banished (I haven't completed NF yet), all trace of their existence in many area may have been eliminated as well.

But...i haven't come close to finishing factions yet (haven't even made SS Gen. yet.) so there may be some details I'm missing.

lapsus · Nov 10, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Well It might be safe to assume that the towns people have small shrines in their homes. Most polytheistic religions require grandoise temples but maybe their in the other parts of town you never get to see...

Trakata · Nov 10, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Temple of the Ages, Serenity Temple, Ashford Abbey, and the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard (I think) all give some insight into the worship habits of the people. To what extent is unknown, since all of these areas are either already destroyed, get destroyed, or are miniscule. I doubt people gathered for mass every Sunday in the Temple of Ages, but I think that people would commune with the gods when they needed to.

The gods don't strike me as the "worship-me" religion. They don't require worship, merely recognition of their domains.

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 10, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26

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Originally Posted by Chuba

There's only 6 gods: Melandru, Dwayna, Balthazar, Lyssa, Grenth and the God of Secrets/Goddess of Truth (depending on whether you look at the timeline before or after the events in Nightfall). They don't have a "religion" of sorts, but all the professions that the player can choose in the game all have their deities among these gods and there are religious orders such as the Lyssa worshippers in Vabbi that clearly stand out.

There is no Goddess of Truth, her real designation is Goddess of Secrets and her avatar is called Seer of Truth. Thus the Goddess replaces the old maddened God. As history is written by the victors, the gods removed Abaddon from history writings. The GW panteon has great similarities to the greek panteon, in which there wasnt really a fixed number of gods. Simpy creating a new god would fill an old spot or create a new one in the panteon

cataphract · Nov 10, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33

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Originally Posted by Trakata

Temple of the Ages, Serenity Temple, Ashford Abbey, and the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard (I think) ...

Temple of Tolerance, I believe.

Trakata · Nov 10, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

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Originally Posted by cataphract

Temple of Tolerance, I believe.

Add Tolerance to my list, but Seaboard bonus has you delivering an offering to Melandru's statue if I remember right. That's why I added it.

Guildmaster Cain · Nov 11, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Sebelkeh Basilica in NF and the temple to Abaddon at the end of NF

-Old 3FL- · Nov 12, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45

Though there are locations for worshipping, not all religions / cults have churches / temples.
Some cults would just worship an idol depicting an image of their God(s).

Corpselooter · Nov 12, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

The temple in Riverside Province mission, where they worship the Mursaat.

lapsus · Nov 13, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03

Although not all religions dont have temples and shrines something tells me the Ascalonians are far too enmeshed in faith to not have a massive temple to atleast all the gods at once. Many major cities in all polytheistic religions boasted large temples. Rome, Athens, Sparta, Delphi each one had massive temples to their gods and a larger one for their patron. Many eastern religions like Bhuddism have truely massive complexes. And usually their god/idol is in a special public place (atleast for the members of said group) making it a temple.

draxynnic · Nov 14, 2006, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Well, Serenity Temple is, I believe, described as being the Ascalonian equivalent to the Temple of Ages in Kryta. It is also described as being ruined after the Searing (and we don't see it before the Searing).

While the only statues present are to Melandru and Dwayna when we see it, it could be that shrines to other gods were there, but were destroyed - or it could be that all the statues were destroyed, but that Dwayna and Melandru happened to be the first to be reconstructed (for a certain value of "reconstructed" when it comes to statues of Dwayna when you don't have favour...)

bsumlin · Nov 14, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Also recall that Vabbians openly worship Lyssa, in fact many believe it was shaped according to her wishes (various conversation with NPC's), and the floating shrine above the Mirror of Lyss is an altar to Lyssa herself.

GedLongbow · Nov 14, 2006, 12:03 PM // 12:03

What proffession you are matters who you worship, and you don't bow down, your worshipping them is fighting as they're disciple and using their favored combat style and LEARNING from them.

SPIRIT OF THE SEA · Nov 16, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

Ged that is true like in handbook says proffesions belive in what different gods say which is why wars and eles worship balthzar and necros worship grenth and idiots worship abbadon LOL