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Picclo · Dec 11, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Ok...ive just finished abbadons mouth and i dont understand sumthing....How does the vizier turn into the lich king...and i never understood in the first place ...who is the vizier and who is the lich king...it doesnt really explain too well in the game and i lost my prophecies manuscripts book so i cant read it out of that....

storm of daeth · Dec 11, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

there the same person if i remember right

draxynnic · Dec 11, 2006, 02:37 AM // 02:37

The Vizier was the Lich all along.

Well, he was the Vizier once. When he set off the Cataclysm that destroyed Orr (and the Charr army) and turned most of Orr's citizens into undead, he himself was transformed into the Lich, which granted him at least some control over the undead. He simply disguised himself as his former self in order to fool the Shining Blade and the players.

(Because of this, I tend to think the Sceptre of Orr may actually have no direct control over the undead, but the Lich/Vizier used the Sceptre to explain why he could control them.

Taala · Dec 11, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

He simply disguised himself as his former self in order to fool the Shining Blade and the players.

Well, at least I don't know any players who didn't see it coming.

Shai · Dec 11, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

IIRC he needed the scepter to open the gate to the fire islands and control the titans.

Giga Strike · Dec 11, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

i think abbadon corrupted him and gave him the ability to trasform into the lich.

Sophitia Leafblade · Dec 11, 2006, 03:14 PM // 15:14

I think Abbadon returned him to the mortal realm after he was killed in the Cataclism, the effect of Abaddon on him turned the once wise and peaceful Vizier into the Evil Lich. Then imbued with the powers of Abaddon, he raised teh army of the Dead from the corspes of all the Orrians. The scepter had nothing to do with his powers, the scepter was the only known way of controlling the Titans, (however since i havnt complete Nightfall yet i dont know if this is still considered Cannon since the Titans seem to be sided with Abaddon anyways)

Picclo · Dec 11, 2006, 08:01 PM // 20:01

I kind of understand this...but could sumone tell me what the cataclysm is...cuz i havent read the manuscripts booklet and i lost mine

mrmango · Dec 12, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

The cataclysm is when an agent of Abbadon (evil god) made him read this incantation or spell which destroyed Arah and the rest of Orr, and all the invading charr. The event also transformed and tainted the vizier into the Lich.

draxynnic · Dec 12, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

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Originally Posted by Taala

Well, at least I don't know any players who didn't see it coming.

Player characters, then. I'd agree, it was pretty obvious from the player's perspective. I correctly guessed who the Lich was the first time I did Gates of Kryta, and my thoughts on giving the Sceptre to the Vizier were... shall we say... not exactly polite towards Evennia. However, to continue the game you had to give it to him, as much as my better judgement said otherwise...

Picclo · Dec 12, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17

thanks for telling me about the cataclysm...a little after i read it i talked to an npc in hells precipice and it told me the whole story....pretty coincidental...(i hope i spelled that right...or ill sound like an idiot)

draxynnic · Dec 13, 2006, 03:16 AM // 03:16

What the poster above told you was a rather spoilerish version.

What you'd know about the Cataclysm with the Manuscripts is that, as the Charr were closing on Arah, the Vizier read some forbidden scrolls to destroy the Charr army. It worked, but it destroyed Orr as well, and former citizens of Orr have been arising as undead since.

Guildmaster Cain · Dec 13, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16

Follow quests in the torment realm and u discover the true nature about the Lich/Vizier transformation.

There is a person in Torment, named Terrick who was a close advisor of Vizier Khilbron. He was the one that instructed and persuaded the Vizier to use the forbidden magic to keep the Charr out.
This wiped out the Charr, decimated Orr and transformed the Vizier into the Lich, making him evil by heart.

Terrick later turns out to be a disguised demonic servant, like the Fortuneteller and General Khayet. Thus it has always been the masterplan of Abaddon.

The only thing I do not understand is: WHY WOULD ANCIENT AND ALLKNOWING DRAGONS LIKE KHUUNAVANG AND GLINT BE DELUDED BY EVIL AND GET AWAY WITH IT???