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Old Nov 18, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #1
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Default Who will be our next ally/allies?

ok in tyria we had a couple but the main one was the dwarves

in cantha the main one was the tengu

in elona the main one was the centaur (how ever you spell it)

get any clues?.......well...THEY ARE ALL FROM TYRIA

what do you think gw4 allies is gonna be

personally i think it will be stone summit or the ettins
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Old Nov 18, 2006, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #2
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"Main one"? twas but a small portion of the story
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Old Nov 18, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26   #3
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I was hoping the Mursaat would play the role of an ally in a future chapter.
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Old Nov 18, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #4
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"Main one"? twas but a small portion of the story
i mostly ment out of the foes
scratch that dwarf put seers
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Old Nov 19, 2006, 11:07 AM // 11:07   #5
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The Druids and humans wearing animal furs as armor will be our allies in the next chapter
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Old Nov 19, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02   #6
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In regards to: "They are all from Tyria", Tyria the name of the GW planet, as well as the continent from the first chapter. But lets just presume u meant the continent...
If Centaurs, dwarves and Tengu are 'all from Tyria', what are you trying to point out here? Yes you are right, they all are present in chapter 1, but their species are just widely spread across whole of Tyria (planet). Plus the fact that the animators like to use the same models to save out work.

And to my opinion, none of the chapters had real 'Allies', as you explain it. They were just a sidestory.

Anyway, Stone Summit allies would be just the same as Deldrimor Dwarves allies, so that wouldnt be any special. Also the Stone Summit only exist as a seperate group from the Deldrimor Dwarves, because they hate all other lifeforms except themselves. Thus allying with them would make them Stone Summit again, which already were 'allies' in CH1.

Ettins... well they are plain stoopid, dont think they prove good allies.
Mursaat were from another planet, so there goes the 'all from Tyria'.

I cant remember all about Druids, but I think they are not humanlike, since their spirits are the same model as the Tree-enemies.
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Old Nov 21, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19   #7
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In regards to: "They are all from Tyria", Tyria the name of the GW planet, as well as the continent from the first chapter. But lets just presume u meant the continent...
If Centaurs, dwarves and Tengu are 'all from Tyria', what are you trying to point out here? Yes you are right, they all are present in chapter 1, but their species are just widely spread across whole of Tyria (planet). Plus the fact that the animators like to use the same models to save out work.

And to my opinion, none of the chapters had real 'Allies', as you explain it. They were just a sidestory.

Anyway, Stone Summit allies would be just the same as Deldrimor Dwarves allies, so that wouldnt be any special. Also the Stone Summit only exist as a seperate group from the Deldrimor Dwarves, because they hate all other lifeforms except themselves. Thus allying with them would make them Stone Summit again, which already were 'allies' in CH1.

Ettins... well they are plain stoopid, dont think they prove good allies.
Mursaat were from another planet, so there goes the 'all from Tyria'.

I cant remember all about Druids, but I think they are not humanlike, since their spirits are the same model as the Tree-enemies.
alright lets put it your way witch life form from the origanel continent form the first game do you think will be in guild wars 4
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Old Nov 21, 2006, 05:36 AM // 05:36   #8
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Old Nov 21, 2006, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #9
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Bummer those werent in the first continent...

The story about the Charr has been kinda closed in NF sidequests. But on the Mursaat and Seers nothing much is said... possible CH4?
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Bummer those werent in the first continent...

The story about the Charr has been kinda closed in NF sidequests. But on the Mursaat and Seers nothing much is said... possible CH4?
NF side quests closed the Charr Story?? Wtf?? Did i read that wrongly?
Dont get me wrong cause i aint finished NF yet

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Id like to see Mursaat Allies, possibly Charr!
No, id really love to see something like a Charr oppression revolt, and we ally renegade Charr to force them out of Tyria, which is side tracked by some massive horrible discovery, if it continured and we forced them out of Tyria, the Prophecies Campaign is completely ruined.
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Old Nov 21, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #11
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Mursaat were from another planet, so there goes the 'all from Tyria'.
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Old Nov 21, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45   #12
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Bummer those werent in the first continent...
Who said we were ONLY looking for possible allies that appeared in Tyria?

And the Mursuratt were from "another world" according to the seer. That may mean another planet, or it could mean something more of a fantasy explination (perhaps the world of Tyria is not the first/last world the 5 Gods created and perhaps they are "connected" somehow)
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Old Nov 21, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #13
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Who said we were ONLY looking for possible allies that appeared in Tyria?

And the Mursuratt were from "another world" according to the seer. That may mean another planet, or it could mean something more of a fantasy explination (perhaps the world of Tyria is not the first/last world the 5 Gods created and perhaps they are "connected" somehow)
The Worlds are conected thru the Mist. Also, by them saying "another world" does not necesarily(sp) mean from another planet. When the Spaniards came to South America, the natives tought they were form another world. "Another world" could also mean a very, very distant land.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20   #14
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NF side quests closed the Charr Story?? Wtf?? Did i read that wrongly?
Dont get me wrong cause i aint finished NF yet

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Id like to see Mursaat Allies, possibly Charr!
No, id really love to see something like a Charr oppression revolt, and we ally renegade Charr to force them out of Tyria, which is side tracked by some massive horrible discovery, if it continured and we forced them out of Tyria, the Prophecies Campaign is completely ruined.
Not really. Any character going to Ascalon that isn't a Prophecies character is essentially going back in time. Heck, any Elonian character going to one of the other campaigns is going back in time too, as Nightfall is set a couple of years after Factions and Prophecies. Meanwhile, Prophecies characters are going to have done the Ascalon story before reaching LA and the point where they could switch campaigns, and after that the only role the Charr play is in the Titan Quests - and the Charr there could be seen as diehards that were hiding out until the Titans showed up to lead them.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36   #15
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NF side quests closed the Charr Story?? Wtf?? Did i read that wrongly?
Dont get me wrong cause i aint finished NF yet

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Id like to see Mursaat Allies, possibly Charr!
No, id really love to see something like a Charr oppression revolt, and we ally renegade Charr to force them out of Tyria, which is side tracked by some massive horrible discovery, if it continured and we forced them out of Tyria, the Prophecies Campaign is completely ruined.
yes you will see a side quest later in the game....it dosent finis hthe charr but changes thier life forever......i felt bad for em kinda
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12   #16
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Mursaat allies would pwn. Spectral Agony, 1/2 second later, boss monster dies. ^^
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 12:39 PM // 12:39   #17
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Not really. Any character going to Ascalon that isn't a Prophecies character is essentially going back in time. Heck, any Elonian character going to one of the other campaigns is going back in time too, as Nightfall is set a couple of years after Factions and Prophecies. Meanwhile, Prophecies characters are going to have done the Ascalon story before reaching LA and the point where they could switch campaigns, and after that the only role the Charr play is in the Titan Quests - and the Charr there could be seen as diehards that were hiding out until the Titans showed up to lead them.
Prophesies and Factions happen about the same time I think (at least the same year), but Nightfall is 3 years later, which is 5 years after the Searing/Cataclysm. So going to fight the Lich/Shiro with Elonian characters would be considered timetravelling.

The Charr story:
Basically they followed the Titans because they always worshipped fire. When they saw Titans for the first time, they knew these fiery bodies must be the one from their gods. So they build the burning effigies.
Anyway, Abaddon wanted to destroy the City of the Gods (Arah), so instructed the Titans to whip the Charr into frenzy. With the help of Abaddon/Titans, the Searing destroyed the Great Northern Wall. The Charr rushed through the lands of Kryta towards the kingdom of Orr. The royal family of Kryta saw this stampede and decided to flee, leaving Kryta defenseless without any rule. Arriving in Orr, the Vizier was influenced by the disguised (demonic servant of Abaddon) Terrick, who was serving the Vizier. He talked the Vizier into reading the forbidden scrolls, which led to the Cataclysm, destroying all Charr in Orr, as well as Orr itself being ripped into the Realm of Torment. In the mean time, the Unseen Ones were found by Saul D'alessar, who aided the Krytans with defeating the Charr in their homelands. Thus all Charr in Kryta and Orr were destroyed. In Nightfall we also find out that the Titans see no use for the Charr anymore, and reveal themselves not to be their gods. So the Charr army has become at least 1/3 of their original size and most importantly: godless.
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Old Nov 22, 2006, 04:07 PM // 16:07   #18
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In Nightfall we also find out that the Titans see no use for the Charr anymore, and reveal themselves not to be their gods.
Well, only one charr knows this and unless he got out the the Realm of Torment the others arent finding out anytime soon
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lol, these 2?

Centaurs from Tyria and Elona are very different, tyria being human/horse, elone goat/horse. I still don't know what the Mursaat were doing and who's side are they on if at all on any side, unless I missed something is some quests..
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