Curse

Tien ak · Aug 12, 2006, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by Makaelthos Solcry

Don't be so childish and ignorant,when it comes to the topic of the nature of different races ,there is no race which is 'good' or 'evil' .Every race has an inherent instict to SURVIVE ,and if that means dominance over other species to ensure it ,then so be it .

Someones been whatching the Aliens films

But I do dissagree with you the Mursatt could of just stayed on their own planet and they would be fine, our characters wouldn't of killed the mursat if they done things a little more peacefull, for example not kill innocent people in cold blood and try to take over our planet.

I see the mursat as not 100% evil as in some sense they did try to save the world and save the gods by not letting the titans free. However they obviously took things a little to far and good ol greed took over.

As for Glint I agree with lapsus that she wanted some revenge on the gods and thus made this all come to plan, as even though we took back the shiverpeaks why go over to the ring of fire? to kill the mursat once and for all? I don't think so, its to realise the titans.

Though glints plan does backfire when you kill her hense why she tells you about the titans that were free after the last mission.

So to sums things up there was no Survival beetween glint and Mursat the only people trying to survive was the humans, Glint was after revenge and the Mursat wanted to add anouther planet to their collection

Dawns Tide · Aug 12, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

The real question is.. are we evil?

Makaelthos Solcry · Aug 12, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

aliens movies ? wHatching ?

first of all ,i've never WATCHED one ,second xwtrcgnvjukuvjtyrhtegrsnhmj

Ristaron · Aug 12, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by Makaelthos Solcry

You mean norse .

No. He means Greco Roman.
In Norse mythology the Gods were opposed by the Giants, not the Titans.

And there's a flaw with your theory, Lordhelmos. In fact... several.
First of all... there are five gods. Dwayna, Balthazar, Melandru, Grenth, and Lyssa.
Secondly... the gods created the serpents to look after Tyria, which they eventually realized the uselessness of with the destructive presence of humans. They fled to the Crystal Desert, and later left, and humans continued to screw themselves up until at last King Doric pleaded for the gods for aid.
The gods, in their final act before leaving Tyria forever, gather up all the magic in a giant stone, smash it, and seal the five pieces with Doric's blood. The stones are dropped in Abaddon's Mouth, and it's believed done.

Then, a few hundred years later, the volcano erupts and the Bloodstones are scattered all over Tyria.
Tyria, not the world.

The Titans, according to guildwiki, are a powerful and destructive race that once roamed Tyria's furthest corners (including Ascalon, where the Charr recieved them as gods and still erect flammable effigies in their image). How they were sealed inside the Door of Komalie probably involves the Scepter of Orr, whos wielder the Titans submit to. After the Scepter was used to seal the Titans away, it was likely hidden in a bygone place in Kryta. This is because Kryta had no real military - only the Lionguard who kept safe the Holy City of King Doric's line. As such, even if anybody were to find the Scepter they would not know what it was.
Unfortunately, not all record of it was lost.
Centuries later, a student of the Flameseeker Prophecies begins searching for a mysterious artifact alluded to in the dragonscript. His efforts are kept silent, and the more he researches the artifacts power and history, the more he realizes how he might use it. The chain of events has begun, and Vizier Khilbron comes to realize he will need to be more than mortal to achieve his goal.
So when the Charr approach, he performs an ancient ritual of devastating consequences - transforming himself into a lich and destroying the entire peninsula that was Orr.

By now we need to think about the Mursaat. It is likely that they lived in the Maguuma as long as time can recall, and didn't branch out from there for fear of the Titans. Thus, they would have eagerly played a hand in sealing the Titans away.
When the volcano erupted, spewing out the Bloodstones, it is possible that the integrity of the magical door of Komalie was weakened. Fearing the return of their hated enemy, the Mursaat endeavoured to find a way to keep shut the gate to hell. The most effective means they contrive is a battery, powered by souls.
Fearing that their plan may be discovered, they decide to kill two birds with one stone. Literally. They sacrafice the Chosen - who can see them - on the bloodstone, which charges the battery and renews the strength of the door of Komalie.
Their plan works perfectly until Khilbron takes the next step of his design, and takes some of the Chosen before the Mantle can get to them, and then shows the group their friends being slaughtered on the Bloodstone. Horrified, they found the Shining Blade, which the band of heroes is eventually drawn into.

See, Khilbron alone was one man, but he knows that with the door of Komalie weakening, the Mursaat would use their influence over the White Mantle to send search parties through Kryta in search of the lost artifact. But when Khilbron has his own influence in a great organization such as the Shining Blade, he can use them to retrieve the artifact and deliver it to him.
All works according to his designs, and the rest is needs no interpretation.

The Mursaat are neither good nor evil (unless you count an apparent lack of conscience as evil). They are simply looking out for their better interests, no matter the cost. Something understandable in any race.

<EDIT:> Rereading my post, it seems as if the entire thing is stating that Lordhelmos' theory is a wrong... actually only the top is correcting the flaws, the rest is my own theory.

B§x¿44¶»1@$ · Aug 12, 2006, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Up to the point where you speak of the Mursaat (after reading tons on Wiki) that seems to be the standard though.

Probobly even right about the rest, including the maguuma jungle and that is where D'Allesio found the Mursaat, and considering thats also near where the Scepter of Orr was found.

lapsus · Aug 13, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

Just beacuse they are an enigmatic force that killed hundreds of people, if not thousands, to stay alive doesnt make them evil. No mursaat, no world, that makes the mursaat saints in my book.

Ristaron · Aug 13, 2006, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by lapsus

Just beacuse they are an enigmatic force that killed hundreds of people, if not thousands, to stay alive doesnt make them evil. No mursaat, no world, that makes the mursaat saints in my book.

Despite the loss of their council and the devastating defeat to their plans, the Mantle and the Mursaat may still be killing.

Lordhelmos · Aug 13, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

Hehe forgot about lyssa.. lol not enough coffee in my system. I think there is a definite gray in the allegience of the mursaat to good or evil. Once thing for sure is their cultural standing in terms of humanity. It seems likely they believed they were a higher race than man and treated humans as such. It seems like the mursaat were using humans for conveniece and survival. Be interesting to think about what happened to the mursaat after the game. With spawling cities described in the book that may exist in some ethereal world, it may be unlikely that they are wiped out. Of course, the reason for their fall is simple underestimation of the humans they monopolized with their religious mind control. Post game, the mursaat would be revealed to the world as false gods by the shining blade, and once the truths of their ways and human soul manipulation is make known me thinks the world would become very tough for them.

Avarre · Aug 13, 2006, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

Hehe forgot about lyssa.. lol not enough coffee in my system. I think there is a definite gray in the allegience of the mursaat to good or evil. Once thing for sure is their cultural standing in terms of humanity. It seems likely they believed they were a higher race than man and treated humans as such. It seems like the mursaat were using humans for conveniece and survival. Be interesting to think about what happened to the mursaat after the game. With spawling cities described in the book that may exist in some ethereal world, it may be unlikely that they are wiped out. Of course, the reason for their fall is simple underestimation of the humans they monopolized with their religious mind control. Post game, the mursaat would be revealed to the world as false gods by the shining blade, and once the truths of their ways and human soul manipulation is make known me thinks the world would become very tough for them.

Well, they have a point. Of the Sentinent races, Mursaat are the most powerful, no real contest. Yes, you can kill them 1v1 but that's a) AI stupidity and b) the help of the Seer (the second most powerful race, if it could wage a lasting war vs the Mursaat).

The remnants of the Mursaat, if any, will probably hang around, but I doubt they'll flourish much anymore, they've lost their menial support, their soul batteries, and their leader (you killed him in Abbadon's Mouth).

Ristaron · Aug 14, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

A perfect ending to the chapter.
Except they had to add in the quests where you went after the Titans.

In any case, the Prophecies storyline was much better thought out and planned than the Factions one (no offense to the team which was working on Factions, we realize you had about 1/10th of the time to create that chapter as the original team did for Prophecies).
I'm looking forward to the Nightfall campaign with the mention of Elonians... I've wondered quite a bit about their original homeland, their culture, their reason for travelling to the Crystal Desert (ascending 'just for the sake of it' doesn't seem logical... though it could explain why the crystal shards were kept in three different camps, as is described in the Elona Reach mission).

But now we're getting off topic... the Mursaat did evil things, and judging by how they seemed to be guided by a desire of self preservation rather than ridding the world of an destructive force I would not put them on the list of 'good guys'.
Just possible allies when armageddon arrives.

DarthLasing · Aug 14, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Hmm..
The mursaat are again not good or evil. When people do things, they think as being good, like hitler inspiring a whole country to slaughter a whole religon. So too many people, the mursaat can be heros to them, and others guild wars nazis.
Buuutt...If the gods feared the titans, or they we're fighting (greco roman mythology again), they must have created the mursaat to defend all races of tyria and stop the titans from ever again ruling Tyria. the mursaat knew there job, but they had to sacrifice a few type of people to keep the door of komalie close. But some humans, in there natural nature, oppose the idea of killing there own kind to keep something closed that they do not know about. Then again, if glint was first created by the gods, why would she oppose something created by the gods to protect a race? Or she doesn't care anymore :P

Pick Me · Aug 15, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Here is my belief.

Mursaats are not evil, if they only wanted to keep the door of Komali closed. The White Mantel became corrupt (you can see it in Hablion's eyes, and hear it in his voice). I believe they would not stop until they have taken over the entire world. Yes, that would mean once Tyria was secured (including Fire Island), they would march down to Canthas too. After all, the chosen can appear anywhere, even a Canthan, Luxon, or Kurzick.

If the Mursaats wanted more than just to keep the Titans away, then yes, they are evil. But fear of death is not something that makes you evil. I mean, if you heard that someone was going to kill you that bears the mark of the white pimpernel, wouldn't you take action to ensure that you were not killed by such a person?

Look at all of the Shakespearian plays that has prophecies and people (kings) killing off or sending people away (exile) so the prophecy does not come to pass.

As to the question, are WE evil? That depends. Rangers could be, using the skill COMFORT ANIMAL to "capture" an animal. Thankfully, the "seaguls" and the white rabbits are immune to that power. The other animals are not that fortunate. That is why they attack the ranger. If it were a skill like Aquaman or Tarzan's ability to communicate to animals, then the Ranger wouldn't be "evil". And how many of you attacked the neutral, non-aggressive stone creatures in Pre-seering? They didn't attack people, yes they may have gotten in your way from time to time, but they didn't start the fight. There are many instances where I would have like to avoid fights at all costs, but the game wouldn't let me. As soon as they enter my "aggro circle", they attack. No amount of communication to the Ahn Fa or bandits will allow you passage.

Even the creatures outside of the main city on Shang Hi Island (or whatever that Island is that you start in Factions). When you venture out, who attacks those little creatures that wonder around, Master Togo. He instigates the attacks, so is he evil?

The Seer either continuously appears in many areas in the game (Iron Mines, Fire Island - several city missions) or there are a few of her kind around, but either way, she is vengeful. She admits she wants to see them taken out. It seems that everyone believes in these prophecies, so it is natural that everyone takes part in making them come to pass. I don't think the Seer is evil though. But I have to re-look at why her race and the Mursaat were fighting in the first place.

Glint seems to have many eggs. I wonder if the Kuuveng (or whatever that dragon's name is in Unwaking Waters) and Glint have ever met?

Well, that's my opinion.

DarthLasing · Aug 16, 2006, 04:37 AM // 04:37

Yes I agree with "Pick Me"'s post, what I was trying to say about in my post. Everyone has a different point of view on what they have to do, considering that there doing "good". The mursaat did whatever they could to keep the door of komalie closed, to protect humans, and the other races of tyria.
..............
But I still wonder on why the Mursaat would want to "defend" tyria (the world not contanint) and all it's races, including humans. We're they created by the gods? Sort of off topic...Time to make a thread!

lapsus · Aug 16, 2006, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Well id assume that flying, angelic looking beings were created by the gods

heist23 · Aug 16, 2006, 06:33 AM // 06:33

Honestly, the fact that we can't decide whether or not the Mursaat were the bad guys or the good guys here speaks to me of a really badly planned plot.

Avarre · Aug 16, 2006, 11:36 AM // 11:36

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Originally Posted by heist23

Honestly, the fact that we can't decide whether or not the Mursaat were the bad guys or the good guys here speaks to me of a really badly planned plot.

Or you could consider that makes the plot superb in that characters aren't portrayed as such one-dimensional creations that it becomes evident.

OMFGimCUTE · Aug 19, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

MAJOR SPOILERS******

This is very interesting... I read through the GW manuscripts just to check up on these things....

From the looks of it, it all started with the four gods of course (and many lesser gods that were pwned in ancient battles). The manuscripts said that when the four greater gods rose to power and left to oversee the realm they dropped the bloodstones onto the world. This is where I believe the Titans come into play. Perhaps the Titans were weapons of the gods that were left stored within the titan's source before the divine wars ended with Dwayna, Grenth, Balth, and Melandru pwning everyone. The Titans probably plopped down into the world along with the bloodstones.

After this the world was primordial in the aftermath of the bloodstone fall and the gods pretty much chilled back for now.

About this time the serpents (Dragons) took over the world as mystical creatures and began to sheperd the world. These dragons had some sense of foreseeing time and in their age of glory they created the flameseeker prophecies, pretty much outlining the future of what is to come.

The dragon's foresight proved to be right and the new race they have been expecting appeared in Tyria... mankind. At this point the serpents knew some real bad poop was gonna hit the fan so they said peace out to the world and their duties.

Man brought war and empires to the world and of course the not so fun stuff outline in the dragon's flameseeker prophecies starts happening. A few dragons like Glint and Kunie stayed around to see what was gonna happen out of curiosity.

While this is going on the mursaat and the seers race and embroiled in some huge war with alot of mass slaughter going down (in some other world or plane). The Mursaat WTF pwn the Seers race and the Seer escapes into the world of man. The mursaat kind of chill in their own world for now.

Man erects three massive kingdoms: Orr, Ascalon, and Kryta. The guild wars start and a whole crap load of people start dying. About this time, the beast race of charr discover the titan's source and release the titans. The charr begin worshipping the divine flames of wrath as gods and start spreading destruction because their fiery gods only exist to consume and destroy.

So while all three of these kingdoms are fighting. The charr suddenly roar from the north with flaming titan power and WTF pwn the human races. Ascalon goes down the drain.

While this is going on, Orrians discover some ancient draconian lore and attempt to become more than human by grasping this power and ascending (which is kind of like elevating the power of your spirit, something that dragons know how to do.) Glint believes humans aren't ready for this and her legions of forgotten WTF pwn the humans.

As the charr are wiping out the humans the march into Orr and as a last resort the rulers of Orr resort to an ancient artifact that was leftover from the ages of the gods (as old as the dragons and titans): The sceptor of orr (Which was probably sealed away in the tombs of primordial kings, which functions as a gate between our world and that of the gods.). In using the scepter, which has the power to control souls and the dead, the Orrians screw up and blow themselves away, transforming Orr into a giant wasteland and everyone into undead. Vizer Khilbron is transformed into the undead lich and his greed for domination of the world may be related to the "something that went wrong" with the scepter.

The charr march closer to Kryta and De'Alessio is exiled into the jungle at this point. As a nobody he stumbles into a cross world gate and meets the Mursaat, who look like divine angels to him. Alessio comes back with the aid of the mursaat after pledging is devotion to them and with the Mursaat manipulating events in the shadows, the Mantle Pwn the Charr.

Somehow during this course of events the Mursaat stumble across the bloodstone and discover how to use its powers in order to create seals and armors out of powerful human souls that have a destiny. The only way they could seal the titans away and allow the Krytans to beat the charr is to use human souls in order to charge a soul battery they built and lock the titans behind the door of komalie. Yeah its not pretty but it works... the Mursaat decide not to tell humans about this but instead manipulate the mantle into getting more human souls for them so they can feed their hungry gate against oblivion. Only select people in the mantle heirachy know the truth, such as Hablion and Dorian.

In some place, the mantle scour the ruins of orr and find the scepter. The scepter has some really bad prophecy mojo around it so they seal it in some temple. However, the scepter is linked to the undead and Vizer Khilbron (the old vizer of Orr who is now twisted and manipulative.). By bringing the scepter of orr into kryta they screw up and allow the scheming undead passage into their lands.

Of course some people find out that the chosen are being sacced and form the shining blade to fight the mantle. The shining blade retreat into the forest and begin calling for the aid of the druids in order to fight the mantle. The forest guardians are bored and have nothing really to do so they aid them with little hints but nothing to extreme (Like Dark Oak). The Druids probably just want the mantle out of their forests. Also the mursaat soul magic probably seems evil and unnatural to them.

Now the games starts, and you do all your stuff and get involved. You eventually ascend but in reality after you join the shining blade, the Vizer Mysteriously steps in with his undead powers and begins playing you like a puppet. His plan is to get the scepter and screw you over at the end by causing you to open Komalie so he can use the scepter's powers in order to control the titans and rule the world.

Of course Glint knows all of this and to her its like watching days of our lives, she already knows whats going to happen but sometimes she steps in and gives you some draconian guidance just to spice the show up for herself. After all she was one of the dragons that wrote the flameseeker prophecies in the first place.

All the while the four gods just kind of chill around and watch humans who have ascended fight to their hall or heros and perform a gladiator show. They are too busy moderating Korea, Japan, America, and Europe to worry about armageddon in Tyria. When they care, the pop out and give you a +2 moral boost to cheer you on.

So there you go, simple summary of everything going on with Tyria.

To answer your question, I believe the Mursaat didn't start "evil" because they chose to help Alessio by reviving him in the first place. However when they found out all the fun they could have with human souls, they got a little twisted and did some not so nice things. However it was for the good of the world that they kept the door sealed. Most likely they did out of fear and the flameseeker prophecies come true with each event despite what they tried to do to stop it probably drove them crazy. Thats probably why they went to such extreme measures to seal komalie, even if it meant saccing human souls. I like the mursaat and according to the manual they still have some unseen world where the hailed from in existence somewhere. I would like to see more of the mursaat if that is possible, as a new race or class even.

The mursaat are like humans, just cooler looking and they float (that touch hurts too). Mursaat, like humans are afflicted by corruption and paranoia. They collapsed under the pressure of a forboding end of the world dilemma and started going crazy. It would be unfair to say all mursaat are evil.

I may write some fan fiction on this interesting subject at some time so check lyssas fiction if I start feeling a little productive.

lol i liked the way you siad this story.

Mournblade · Aug 19, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

Quoting an entire 100 line post to make a 9 word reply - WINNER!

I pwnd U · Aug 19, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lordhelmos

MAJOR SPOILERS******

This is very interesting... I read through the GW manuscripts just to check up on these things....

From the looks of it, it all started with the four gods of course (and many lesser gods that were pwned in ancient battles). The manuscripts said that when the four greater gods rose to power and left to oversee the realm they dropped the bloodstones onto the world. This is where I believe the Titans come into play. Perhaps the Titans were weapons of the gods that were left stored within the titan's source before the divine wars ended with Dwayna, Grenth, Balth, and Melandru pwning everyone. The Titans probably plopped down into the world along with the bloodstones.

After this the world was primordial in the aftermath of the bloodstone fall and the gods pretty much chilled back for now.

About this time the serpents (Dragons) took over the world as mystical creatures and began to sheperd the world. These dragons had some sense of foreseeing time and in their age of glory they created the flameseeker prophecies, pretty much outlining the future of what is to come.

The dragon's foresight proved to be right and the new race they have been expecting appeared in Tyria... mankind. At this point the serpents knew some real bad poop was gonna hit the fan so they said peace out to the world and their duties.

Man brought war and empires to the world and of course the not so fun stuff outline in the dragon's flameseeker prophecies starts happening. A few dragons like Glint and Kunie stayed around to see what was gonna happen out of curiosity.

While this is going on the mursaat and the seers race and embroiled in some huge war with alot of mass slaughter going down (in some other world or plane). The Mursaat WTF pwn the Seers race and the Seer escapes into the world of man. The mursaat kind of chill in their own world for now.

Man erects three massive kingdoms: Orr, Ascalon, and Kryta. The guild wars start and a whole crap load of people start dying. About this time, the beast race of charr discover the titan's source and release the titans. The charr begin worshipping the divine flames of wrath as gods and start spreading destruction because their fiery gods only exist to consume and destroy.

So while all three of these kingdoms are fighting. The charr suddenly roar from the north with flaming titan power and WTF pwn the human races. Ascalon goes down the drain.

While this is going on, Orrians discover some ancient draconian lore and attempt to become more than human by grasping this power and ascending (which is kind of like elevating the power of your spirit, something that dragons know how to do.) Glint believes humans aren't ready for this and her legions of forgotten WTF pwn the humans.

As the charr are wiping out the humans the march into Orr and as a last resort the rulers of Orr resort to an ancient artifact that was leftover from the ages of the gods (as old as the dragons and titans): The sceptor of orr (Which was probably sealed away in the tombs of primordial kings, which functions as a gate between our world and that of the gods.). In using the scepter, which has the power to control souls and the dead, the Orrians screw up and blow themselves away, transforming Orr into a giant wasteland and everyone into undead. Vizer Khilbron is transformed into the undead lich and his greed for domination of the world may be related to the "something that went wrong" with the scepter.

The charr march closer to Kryta and De'Alessio is exiled into the jungle at this point. As a nobody he stumbles into a cross world gate and meets the Mursaat, who look like divine angels to him. Alessio comes back with the aid of the mursaat after pledging is devotion to them and with the Mursaat manipulating events in the shadows, the Mantle Pwn the Charr.

Somehow during this course of events the Mursaat stumble across the bloodstone and discover how to use its powers in order to create seals and armors out of powerful human souls that have a destiny. The only way they could seal the titans away and allow the Krytans to beat the charr is to use human souls in order to charge a soul battery they built and lock the titans behind the door of komalie. Yeah its not pretty but it works... the Mursaat decide not to tell humans about this but instead manipulate the mantle into getting more human souls for them so they can feed their hungry gate against oblivion. Only select people in the mantle heirachy know the truth, such as Hablion and Dorian.

In some place, the mantle scour the ruins of orr and find the scepter. The scepter has some really bad prophecy mojo around it so they seal it in some temple. However, the scepter is linked to the undead and Vizer Khilbron (the old vizer of Orr who is now twisted and manipulative.). By bringing the scepter of orr into kryta they screw up and allow the scheming undead passage into their lands.

Of course some people find out that the chosen are being sacced and form the shining blade to fight the mantle. The shining blade retreat into the forest and begin calling for the aid of the druids in order to fight the mantle. The forest guardians are bored and have nothing really to do so they aid them with little hints but nothing to extreme (Like Dark Oak). The Druids probably just want the mantle out of their forests. Also the mursaat soul magic probably seems evil and unnatural to them.

Now the games starts, and you do all your stuff and get involved. You eventually ascend but in reality after you join the shining blade, the Vizer Mysteriously steps in with his undead powers and begins playing you like a puppet. His plan is to get the scepter and screw you over at the end by causing you to open Komalie so he can use the scepter's powers in order to control the titans and rule the world.

Of course Glint knows all of this and to her its like watching days of our lives, she already knows whats going to happen but sometimes she steps in and gives you some draconian guidance just to spice the show up for herself. After all she was one of the dragons that wrote the flameseeker prophecies in the first place.

All the while the four gods just kind of chill around and watch humans who have ascended fight to their hall or heros and perform a gladiator show. They are too busy moderating Korea, Japan, America, and Europe to worry about armageddon in Tyria. When they care, the pop out and give you a +2 moral boost to cheer you on.

So there you go, simple summary of everything going on with Tyria.

To answer your question, I believe the Mursaat didn't start "evil" because they chose to help Alessio by reviving him in the first place. However when they found out all the fun they could have with human souls, they got a little twisted and did some not so nice things. However it was for the good of the world that they kept the door sealed. Most likely they did out of fear and the flameseeker prophecies come true with each event despite what they tried to do to stop it probably drove them crazy. Thats probably why they went to such extreme measures to seal komalie, even if it meant saccing human souls. I like the mursaat and according to the manual they still have some unseen world where the hailed from in existence somewhere. I would like to see more of the mursaat if that is possible, as a new race or class even.

The mursaat are like humans, just cooler looking and they float (that touch hurts too). Mursaat, like humans are afflicted by corruption and paranoia. They collapsed under the pressure of a forboding end of the world dilemma and started going crazy. It would be unfair to say all mursaat are evil.

I may write some fan fiction on this interesting subject at some time so check lyssas fiction if I start feeling a little productive.

Well i think you covered it all.

Amy Awien · Aug 19, 2006, 04:58 PM // 16:58

Did you add the "well" just to make it to 7 words?

I can be very, very brief on the issue

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Mursaat were good?

No. They sacrificed people to achieve their goals. That makes them non-good - or evil.

Nothing much to discuss, whatever their reasons or goals, since goals never justify the means, their goals are irrelevant.