Curse

thewhigparty · Jan 21, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

It's made very clear that during the Charr managed to attack both Orr and Kryta. I have checked the maps, and the only way the Charr could have gotten to Kryta and Orr is if

1) The Charr also came from the North of Kryta near the Giant's Basin
2) The Charr somehow crossed the Ocean to attack Orr
3) The Charr crossed the Shiverpeaks to attack both Kryta and Orr
4) The Charr got around the Wall after the Searing, and then crossed the Crystal Desert to attack Orr?

Free Runner · Jan 21, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50

A mix of 3 and 4 seem about right = The Charr got through the wall during the Searing some went through the Shiverpeaks and some went over the mountains through the northen part of the Crystal Desert and straight to Orr. But there is no evidence of them crossing the Shiverpeaks so they may of taken a direct route to Kryta.

We do not know the Charrs homelands layout to know if they had a direct path to Kryta. Its very possible the Charr came from the north onto Watchtower Coast and began attacking Kryta there.

thewhigparty · Jan 21, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

A mix of 3 and 4 seem about right = The Charr got through the wall during the Searing some went through the Shiverpeaks and some went over the mountains through the northen part of the Crystal Desert and straight to Orr. But there is no evidence of them crossing the Shiverpeaks so they may of taken a direct route to Kryta.

See, I would have figured something would have destroyed the Charr if they tried to cross the Shiverpeaks or the Crystal Desert. If I recall correctly, Prophecies only occurred like 2 years after the Searing, meaning that there should be some evidence that they plowed through those two regions, right?

Free Runner · Jan 21, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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See, I would have figured something would have destroyed the Charr if they tried to cross the Shiverpeaks or the Crystal Desert. If I recall correctly, Prophecies only occurred like 2 years after the Searing, meaning that there should be some evidence that they plowed through those two regions, right?

If a group of humans could get through i am pretty sure a army/warband of Charr victorious from there previous attack would of. But its not about the power of the Charr. The good Dwarfs of Deldrimor would no doubt had come into contact with the Charr.

The Charr could of taken any route over to Kryta and i am sure they would of broke in since when they did attack,the Guild Wars were still happening so not much attention was focused on them.

But yes a route from the north to Kryta would seem much more reliable. We can only hope we one day see the Charrs homeland to clear this up.

thewhigparty · Jan 21, 2007, 11:45 PM // 23:45

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

If a group of humans could get through i am pretty sure a army/warband of Charr victorious from there previous attack would of. But its not about the power of the Charr. The good Dwarfs of Deldrimor would no doubt had come into contact with the Charr.

The Charr could of taken any route over to Kryta and i am sure they would of broke in since when they did attack,the Guild Wars were still happening so not much attention was focused on them.

If that's the case, why haven't we seen any proof of the Charr in the Shiverpeaks?

Edit: what I mean is, why weren't the Charr mentioned during the Shiverpeaks section or seen at all?

Free Runner · Jan 22, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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If that's the case, why haven't we seen any proof of the Charr in the Shiverpeaks?

Edit: what I mean is, why weren't the Charr mentioned during the Shiverpeaks section or seen at all?

Speculation here: They could of used some sort of tunnel that runs underneath the Shiverpeaks to avoid detection (i mean its not the first time they have done it).

Of course they would not have been seen after two years because they had no interest in staying in the Shiverpeak areas and would just simply move on to Kryta

But then again Charr love flames so i guess they would of hated the place which would give them a reason not to cross the Shiverpeaks. I am starting to feel the Charr did use a route from their homeland but then again how far do the Shiverpeaks run north?

thewhigparty · Jan 22, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Speculation here: They could of used some sort of tunnel that runs underneath the Shiverpeaks to avoid detection (i mean its not the first time they have done it).

When did they use tunnels? (I must have zoned out during that part. Unless you're talking about that one ranger that went through the Catacombs in Pre-Searing)

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Of course they would not have been seen after two years because they had no interest in staying in the Shiverpeak areas and would just simply move on to Kryta

Well I meant any things left behind or any scars left from their crossing.

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But then again Charr love flames so i guess they would of hated the place which would give them a reason not to cross the Shiverpeaks.

I'm sure they hated Ascalon, and as a result they just fried the whole area. The Shiverpeaks on the other hand were not fried.

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I am starting to feel the Charr did use a route from their homeland but then again how far do the Shiverpeaks run north?

There is a section of land north of Nebo Terrace that looks a bit scorched and could be the way the Charr went in if they used a different route, but it seems unlikely, because Nebo Terrace itself is fine.

Mournblade · Jan 22, 2007, 01:50 AM // 01:50

The Charr army got runners to take them to Orr. =P

draxynnic · Jan 22, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by thewhigparty

If that's the case, why haven't we seen any proof of the Charr in the Shiverpeaks?

Edit: what I mean is, why weren't the Charr mentioned during the Shiverpeaks section or seen at all?

I believe it is mentioned soon after reaching the Shiverpeaks that an alternate crossing does exist, but that it's far to the north in Charr territory. So they may simply have used that.

EDIT: Here we go, in the description of Borlis Pass: The Shiverpeaks rise up over ten-thousand feet above sea level. In the shadow of this enormous mountain range lie the kingdoms of Kryta to the west and Ascalon to the east. Borlis Pass is the closest travelable passage through the mountains to the city of Rin. The next closest lies much farther north, deep in Charr territory.

gilgameshx · Jan 22, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05

For the Charr to get to Orr, look carefully between Nolani Academy and Sardelac Sanitarium just below the wall there is a river that goes through Shiverpeak and ends up in a river with Orr and Shiverpeak next to it. It's possible that they walked on the dried up river in Ascalon, walked on the frozen river in Shiverpeak, and then sailed to Orr starting from Marhan's Grotto.

As for Kryta, there's probably a Charr territory somewhere up North.