Curse

androidgeoff · Jul 17, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

So the other day, my ex-guild (At the time still my guild) and I were off to kill Glint. During the mission, I noticed something at either the Necro Facet thing or the one after (Note, I didn't get an actual screenshot since a stupid guildy ran through the portal before I got to get a screenshot, but I was able to click on it and target it):

There is a dead Ascalonian Warrior!

Discuss. I have no theories except that it supports my Rurik Is Elonian claim, but I want to see what kind of things you theorists come up with, since I truly feel there are some cool things you guy sthink of.

Goats17 · Jul 18, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

People who ascended, but failed in Glint's Lair?

ekamdu · Jul 18, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49

then why would they be ascalonian warriors? wherent the villagers in kryta part of the chosen process? i havent heard anything about the chosen in ascalon :S

Hidden in the Mist · Jul 18, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Chosens don't even stop by the Desert.

Raiin Maker · Jul 19, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

there are asclon's soldiers bodies in there-probally guards who failed to ascend

Eldin · Jul 22, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

You never saw those before? Lest they've changed things, their bodies litter the path to the necromancer facet.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 23, 2006, 08:54 AM // 08:54

the bodies litter the path for a reason too

necrotic transversal anyone?

Rathcail · Jul 23, 2006, 09:16 AM // 09:16

I don't think those who failed to ascend would be hanging around in the Dragon's Lair.

I always thought it something Glint created for the Facet of Darkness area. To instill fear to the main character when he sees fellow Ascalonians dead on the floor on his way to meet the Facet.
Of course most players couldn't give a rat's ass for some Ascalonian soldiers. They just want to cap elites and get to Droks.

The Mighty Toe · Jul 23, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

I agree with Rathcail on this one.

You're in the Facet of Darkness; what is going to give you a dark sense of forboding more than seeing what seem to be the corpses of people from your homeland littering the floor?

Bad Apache · Jul 23, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

Apparently they are W/R Iway'ers. See any dead pets? Nope. Thats why they died, they forgot to take Charm Animal. Or they're just some crazy Rurik loyal Warriors destined to die Monkless while attempting avengance of their masters death.

Or, instead of Ascending, they climbed over the mountains south of Ascalon and snook into the Dragon's Layer hoping to find masses of treasure and lots of ancient artifacts, or even Jesus!

Or, they wanted a tan after Stormcaller didnt kill the Char (pffft) and rid Ascalon of the giant sunless atmosphere, and headed for a nice holiday in the Crystal Desert (I think they were flying with LBS Expressways fyi), only to find the cave and head inside out of sheer morbid curiosity.

Or, Anet figured Minion Masters needed some sacraficial sacrafices.

The Chosen are "chosen" to be sacraficed by the White Mantle correct me if I am wrong, not to be ascended.

BTW: Your not supposed to post names (Text on the pic)

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 23, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46

SPOILER WARNING!

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Originally Posted by Bad Apache

The Chosen are "chosen" to be sacraficed by the White Mantle correct me if I am wrong, not to be ascended.

No, the Chosen are "chosen" by the Eye of Janthir, and then sacrificed by the White Mantle so they don't ascend. Neither the Mantle nor the "chosen" Chosen know anything about ascending, but ultimately ascending leads to the destruction of Mursaat which the Mantle is trying to prevent.

The presence of Ascalon Soldier corpses in Glint's Lair has led many to speculate that she is actually evil or has alterior motives to setting the Flameseeker Prophecies in motion - initially by making them and/or currently by prodding the events in some way, as indicated by the unexplained disappearance of the Scepter of Orr in the last cutscene of Hell's Precipice, and by the fact that she is the one who effectively both releases the Titans (main storyline) and eliminates them (Titan quests).

I myself don't have an explanation for the corpses' presence, but the first thing that popped into my head were the Fallen - Ascalon Warriors that come back from the dead as spirits in the bonus for Nolani Academy mission, simply because the end dialogue includes the phrase "Our names might as well have been written in the Flameseeker Prophecies" or something to that effect.

It's been a while since the last time I did that mission though, so I could be misquoting/misattributing things.

Dark Suoon · Jul 24, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

theyve been there ever since ppl tryed that mission, i went to it many times and saw the warriors

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jul 24, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Well here's reason for me to finally finish the prophecies campaign (I stopped at Abaddon's Mouth b/c I saw no point in it) I thought the titan quests were merely just some quests you can do or abandon, I didn't know that they involved Glint and stuff. I thought that we just BAM beat the mursaat lol. Of course the Leech did make me curious, but it wasn't enough to get me to beat the game. Now I'll need something else to motivate me to finishing Cantha lol. Annoying to get groups and I HATE the geography of Cantha.

Shyft the Pyro · Jul 24, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41

To get you motivated on gettnig through the Canthan storyline, consider this: when you beat it, you will get the thanks of everyone you've met, and I mean EVERYONE. The Tengu will bow to you. The peasants and children from all over Cantha will hail you as a hero and a savior. And the Kurzick warrior Lucas will ask for your help instead of considering you his hench.

How's that for motivation?

fiery · Jul 25, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Glint's dinner.

draxynnic · Jul 26, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16

One thing I heard was that they accompanied Aidan, Devona etc when they visited Glint, and got left behind because they couldn't be raised. That leaves a lot of questions unanswered, however, especially if you subscribe to the theory that the reason PCs and henchmen can be raised while other NPCs generally can't is that the former group is Chosen, and that resurrection magic only works on Chosen... and if those guards aren't Chosen, how did they Ascend and get to Glint's lair in the first place?

Personally, I think the theory that they're there as part of the ambience of the death domain (and that they appear to be Ascalonian becuase, at least initially, the assumption was that the PCs were Ascalonian and thus Ascalonian bodies would have the greatest impact) is probably the best explanation.

xiao1985 · Jul 26, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

in game, because the domain is full of necros and necros need bodies (hmm... yum)

lore wise, maybe the charrs killed ascalon soldiers and performed rituals and send them to glint?! seen a strange lore on how glint and charrs are related somehow...

Song Rui · Jul 27, 2006, 05:56 AM // 05:56

They are victims of the donut fiend.

Haggard · Jul 27, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

The very same one who stacks his donuts on the spire in the centre of the lair? :O

Makaelthos Solcry · Jul 29, 2006, 03:38 PM // 15:38

Its probably a move that the designers didnt think of too well ,they probably just wanted to use it as decoration for the necro dragon lair