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lightblade · Jan 12, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33

- Chapter 4's name was recently discovered to be "Utopia". Using this as the first clue...
- There were discussion on GWOnline about Saul D'Alessio's experience, stating that he found a city that is so glorious that it resembles a "Utopia". This city is known as Janthir, city of the Mursaat.
- The Istan scarb plague that happened over 200 years ago had many people fled. It is possible that these people had established an Utopian society somewhere else. This type of story is very typical.
- It is possible that these people are touched by some kind of power, as clued in by Bahltek, and transformed them into Mursaats

Perhaps the biggest clue to Chapter 4's lore lies with Bahlek's conversation.

Free Runner · Jan 12, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52

If that really is to be the name.

My bets are that the story would be something about someone looking for a Utopia rather than being set in one.

Wasnt the Mursaats city said to be inside the Magumma Jungle? speculated to be behind the Ullen River?

It would be interesting to see more of the Mursaat.

I'm suprised a thread like this has not popped up already. The name Guild Wars: Utopia was found like a month ago

FoxBat · Jan 13, 2007, 09:48 AM // 09:48

I think Bahltek's chat brings up the possibility that future chapters might not even be set on the same planet as the current 3. Totally different worlds and such.

Maria Moon · Jan 13, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26

hmm, well apparently there will be lilttle to no involvement of nightfall or factions, but prophecies will always have something to do with the story line, hmm that does sound interesting foxbat, you think anet will creat another 1 of those portals to another realm, or just stick to the boat theme, hmm maybe a distant land bearly touched by civiliazation which the gods had kept hidden away from the world until now.. woops enough before i get flamed

Free Runner · Jan 13, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

I want to see something along the lines of Shangri-La

I suppose if it was to be set in another world through the mists it would be very likely we do meet the mursaat again. It being set in another world would also solve my question of how do Anet keep the biggest spoiler in Nightfall (Kormir) out of the next chapter?.

Feme Assassin · Jan 13, 2007, 03:43 PM // 15:43

its utopia we know that and if it has to do with mursaat than we are going to see a greek theme.A lot of mursaat bosses have greek names
Argyris The Scoundrel(Argyris from argyros which means silver)
Chrysos The Magnetic(Chrysos me chryso which means gold)
Kratos The Foul(Kratos in ancient greece meant power)
Demetrios The Endring(Demetrios from dimitra the goddess of earth)
Feodor The Banefull(Feodot from theodor which means theodorws ''divine gift''
so i hope we will see a greek theme

Tide to Go · Jan 16, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

why would the ystart another website?

i told you already, the deminsions........the part of the tyria desert to the far left where the guesses of orrs remains are......deminsions......undead......orr scepter....ahh well who knows.....kormir learns stuff........glint has a wanted bounty....

MegaMouse · Jan 16, 2007, 08:35 AM // 08:35

I agree with Maria, the new chapter sounds like it will be seperate from Tyria and Cantha (we find out that Elona is actualy a part of Tyria in that it is on the same continent). Bringing that NC-SAoft will probably keep the baots as a main means of travel throught the world. Also as much as I would like to take the credit for finding the new site I got my info on it from someone else from another forum.

Mega Mouse

Free Runner · Jan 16, 2007, 04:28 PM // 16:28

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Originally Posted by Tide to Go

why would the ystart another website?

They are not for new websites.

Every chapter has an alt link to the official site using its chapter name.Factions and Nightfall are both registered but only the Factions link works.

I am still thinking it will not be set in a Utopia. It could be someone trying to find a Utopia and causing trouble whilst doing so.

gilgameshx · Jan 17, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

Quote:

- Chapter 4's name was recently discovered to be "Utopia". Using this as the first clue...
- There were discussion on GWOnline about Saul D'Alessio's experience, stating that he found a city that is so glorious that it resembles a "Utopia". This city is known as Janthir, city of the Mursaat.
- The Istan scarb plague that happened over 200 years ago had many people fled. It is possible that these people had established an Utopian society somewhere else. This type of story is very typical.
- It is possible that these people are touched by some kind of power, as clued in by Bahltek, and transformed them into Mursaats

Perhaps the biggest clue to Chapter 4's lore lies with Bahlek's conversation.

-I don't know who made up the idea of Utopia as the 4th Chapter. It must've been some crazy dude who registered the website www.guildwarsutopia.com and decided to create rumors about it. This doesn't make any sense since every Guild Wars chapter is shown on their official website. Why make a new one? Where is the proof that Ch.4 will be called Utopia?

-It was mentioned in the manual about what Saul saw that the "architecture was astounding" and "a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens." This doesn't state that this city is "Utopia."

-A history about plagues or pandemics in real life is that these things happens. Throughout the years, many people just begin to die while others live. The survivors of a plague have an inherited gene that makes them immune to a plague. Our latest pandemic is AIDS and there are a very few who are immune to it.
Anyway the point is this, the history of the plague hasn't been solved if you've read the quest regarding the Istan Plague. Many of the Istan people that became survivors fled to the mainland (most likely Kourna). The scarab plague was probably an explaination for the Tomb of the Primeval Kings, but being buried all the way in Tyria is a mystery, though it might have to do something with the Rifts and Hall of Heroes.

-As for Bahtek, I'm not sure where you got your information about people transforming? I'm sure it's not the Mursaat. But I think the information that Bahtek was talking about was Lord Ordan and his trips to the Rift. Primeval Kings and their history. And a ghost ship spotted most likely an Undead Orr Ship since Orr is just Northwest of Elona.

Different worlds have been done in this game, such as Underworld, Fissure of Woe, and Realm of Torment.

I doubt we would see a greek theme since GW: Prophecies is greek/roman themed. It explains the Mursaats name, the Gladiator armor, towering structures, arenas, etc.

Omega X · Jan 17, 2007, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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Originally Posted by gilgameshx

-I don't know who made up the idea of Utopia as the 4th Chapter. It must've been some crazy dude who registered the website www.guildwarsutopia.com and decided to create rumors about it. This doesn't make any sense since every Guild Wars chapter is shown on their official website. Why make a new one? Where is the proof that Ch.4 will be called Utopia?

Considering that NC Soft Austin registered it and the fact that both Factions and Nightfall was discovered this way, its very possible.

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-It was mentioned in the manual about what Saul saw that the "architecture was astounding" and "a city of massive towers reaching into the heavens." This doesn't state that this city is "Utopia."

Actually it DOES describe A "Utopia". Both Dictionary.com and Wikipedia agree with that definition.

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- the history of the plague hasn't been solved if you've read the quest regarding the Istan Plague. Many of the Istan people that became survivors fled to the mainland (most likely Kourna). The scarab plague was probably an explaination for the Tomb of the Primeval Kings, but being buried all the way in Tyria is a mystery, though it might have to do something with the Rifts and Hall of Heroes.

I can't agree or disagree with this one since its too broad.

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- I think the information that Bahtek was talking about was Lord Ordan and his trips to the Rift. Primeval Kings and their history. And a ghost ship spotted most likely an Undead Orr Ship since Orr is just Northwest of Elona.

I agree with the Lord Odran comment(it was very obvious). But the people of Orr wasn't the only sailors to ever exist(and decimated). A boat so close to Elona could signify something else.

Orr was completely destroyed. The center of that was pulled into the Realm of Torment. Along with that was the temple of the gods. Though people still claim Orr.

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Different worlds have been done in this game, such as Underworld, Fissure of Woe, and Realm of Torment.

Those are not entire chapters however.

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I doubt we would see a greek theme since GW: Prophecies is greek/roman themed. It explains the Mursaats name, the Gladiator armor, towering structures, arenas, etc.

You are correct. There was a hint at a Aztec/Mayan theme not Greek.

topdragon147 · Jan 17, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41

Kryta might be greek, but people seem to agree that Prophecies is more fantasy -ish. My thinking agrees with what foxbat said. I'd say that they're either they would expand on the holes in gw

, or they would go to another world entirely.

MegaMouse · Jan 17, 2007, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Not sure about the "other world" thing, but this we do know. Several NPC's talk about trade with a northern land. What this land is or may be is still up in the air, but from the looks of things and seeing as how there is still a lot of area to explore and incomplete Lore, it would be more than reasonalbe that NC-Soft go north now instead of into a "new world".

Mega Mouse

Sophitia Leafblade · Jan 18, 2007, 11:03 AM // 11:03

Prophecies was European based it contained elements from several sources, including the Greek/Norse/Roman storywise, the Middleage Western Europeans Armour and people wise. and places were taken from various European based places. (with the exception of Magumma Jungle)

Chances are that the next chapter will be Jungle (South America), Frozen lands (antartica), Island Chains (Australasia) or new land forging (North America) so that gives us a 1 in 4 chance to be right.

Lokomotiv · Jan 19, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

Any speculations about an Atlantis theme mixed with mayan /aztec/ inca civilizations?

Giga Strike · Jan 19, 2007, 06:33 PM // 18:33

okay, CH4 isnt called utopia. ignoring that rumor, what will the theme be?

Tide to Go · Jan 19, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by MegaMouse

Not sure about the "other world" thing, but this we do know. Several NPC's talk about trade with a northern land. What this land is or may be is still up in the air, but from the looks of things and seeing as how there is still a lot of area to explore and incomplete Lore, it would be more than reasonalbe that NC-Soft go north now instead of into a "new world".

Mega Mouse

Show me quotes from NPC's that talk about the north?

Sofonisba · Jan 19, 2007, 10:51 PM // 22:51

People often refer to the universe of Star Trek as a "utopia," and also I guess the teleporters in the Crystal Desert do seem somewhat out of place, but if we start using spaceships and warp drives and communicators I'm outta here!

Magic, huge invasions, portals to different dimensions, gods run amok ftw.

Free Runner · Jan 19, 2007, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by Tide to Go

I think that your talking about the Elona time line, at the buttom it says that elonians descover trade with the north, but do you know whats north of elona?????
ITS TYRIA!!!!!

From the timeline:
"Cantha begins trading with Tyria,Elona and the northern areas"

As you can see it refers to Northern Areas seperate from Tyria.

crow120 · Jan 20, 2007, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Perhaps the evil of the fourth one will be trying to establish a utopia. The ideals might look good to some while others think it would destroy independant thought. Might be fun to actually choose a side and play to that ending. One ending you set up a utopia and think happy happy thoughts til the end of time. The other ending being you prevent the utopia from occuring and maintain the balance of not to good not to bad.