Curse

Gmr Leon · Feb 10, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42

The runes can be found on the Elonian Map, Banners present in specific areas, and Pillars in the Realm of Torment.

In examining the Elona Map and comparing them words to what those locations are actually suppose to be we have a bit of a translation issue.

First of all, there are 4 runes in the place where there should be 5 for Istan.

Second in regards to Istan, there is the J shaped rune in the 2nd and 4th position. Usually I would see, alright is there two of the same letters in some sort of configuration in that word, and in this case no.

The lower right 4 rune word seems to of course refer to the 5 letter Elona. Again, mismatch in the number of letters. So I thought alright perhaps they are not using all the letters in the names, so I tried to see if any of the other areas have common letters to any others. Starting with Elona I compared it with Istan. We know that both share the A and N. Do either share common runes? The only common rune is that 3 shaped rune. So possibly it could either refer to the A or N in both. But, in what ever configuration, I have not figured out yet as any of the other letters could be left out.

Desolation which has 10 letters, the rune set it should refer to only has 6. Comparing it with another rune set. The third rune from left to right also appears in the Elona rune set.

Basically just to start out the number of runes to letter ratio does not match, and trying to determine the same runes thus figuring out which rune and letters are shared where ever else is a bit difficult.

So this is the start of what will be a bit of work. Anyone who can find evidence of these letters/runes elsewhere please post them here.

I will be working up a complete list of each of the Elonian letters.

Provided by Gmr Leon and DubDub

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This is from the GWO Lore Forum, this post was made by Eratimus, the guy who translated the Tyrian alphabet. At least most of the Tyrian alphabet, that aside he even gave up on the Elonian alphabet. However, I bring this topic to this forum in hopes of some people here maybe finding a way to translate this.

Several conclusions about the Elonian language we came to are: It is a phonetic language and it is a type of sandscript. I can, and maybe will do so later, gather up pics of the reoccurring blocks of the runes. One thing that has been missed in the above pics are the Stacks in the Halls of Chokhin.

I'll see if I can't grab a pic of those later. I would love to see this alphabet translated myself since it seems like a challenge from Anet to the Lore guys. Pretty much I'm proposing that the Lore people here try to assist in translating this.

Besides, what would be better than the two Lore Forums working on something? Actually, I wish I knew why we don't do so more often..

Free Runner · Feb 10, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

I am going to have a look at all these runes. This is going to be very interesting.

First noted is the Halls Of Chokhin:

The thing i noticed is that after the rune i have circled 7 different runes follow (coming down) before it appears again. This means there are 8 lines on the moving block.

Gmr Leon · Feb 11, 2007, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Yep...Here's my pic separating each line and showing that the three to the far right are in fact, upside down. Some of the other blocks are backwards versions of other lines and the normal ones go left to right.

Heh...As a note it seems you were looking at the stacks from behind them, whilst I viewed them from the front. Also, there are 10 lines flowing down each with 9 runes within them. I have also already found the recurring block within the Realm of Torment pillars, I'll see if I can get a pic later and put a box around them.

Feme Assassin · Feb 11, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

just a thought elona has middle east theme africa and this kind i thought in middle eat and in arabia they read backwards but i am not sure

Jakerius · Feb 25, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Quote:

First of all, there are 4 runes in the place where there should be 5 for Istan.

In Futhark (the stereotypical runic language), 'Th' is represented as one symbol, so I don't think it's that much of a stretch to imagine Anet might've done the same thing (albeit with different letters)

Operations · Feb 27, 2007, 01:53 AM // 01:53

You know that you're probably trying to translate a shopping list right?

Guildmaster Cain · Feb 28, 2007, 12:25 PM // 12:25

I bet you guys just killed the graphics developers by making them explode from laughter.

You sound like real archeoligists. Anyway, to encourage you; the way we pronounce words maybe not the same as they write. Same happened with the map that is in Ethereal Light Camp. For instance, Elona might be written as Elon, same as the river that runs through the lands.

Gmr Leon · Mar 03, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

I'm going to guess you would also bet they burst out in laughter when a group of people attempted translating the Tyrian maps in Ascalon. Yes, they laughed until it was deciphered. I was quite hoping we could do the same here, but it seems I was expecting a bit much since the people here aren't as dedicated to researching the lore.

Ah well, was a nice thought for a moment..

Lord-UWR · Mar 03, 2007, 04:08 AM // 04:08

In Tabula Rasa, they actually developed the Logos language for the game. In GW, this is simply a set of random letters with no origin, just to fill the backgroud. The developers didn't put as much thought as you guyz are.

Gmr Leon · Mar 03, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

If they did so with the Tyrian alphabet I see no reason to believe they didn't do the same with these. Besides the Halls of Chokhin are a place of learning, the Stacks (things with scrolling runes) are most likely saying something.

Stan The WHitecrow · Mar 11, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I think there might be somin to the markings and such. I'm wondering if the markings maynot be the current names of the countries. my reasoning for this is based on that the maps with each area marked may not have started until after the end of the pretender wars/shattered dynasty era.

Also a second theroy maybe that each set of markings may translate into a mass of words that need to be unjumbled to maybe form a clue or hint into chapter 4 of gw. this is just an idea that popped into my head with 1% chance of being true.

therangereminem · Mar 12, 2007, 04:11 AM // 04:11

i dont think anyone this makes sence look at the runes in the map picture whdere istan is the 2nd and 4th or the same as kouran last one no matter how you look at it it wont work out

trekkie dude · Mar 15, 2007, 12:26 AM // 00:26

can't we just accept that the people at GW just started writing gibberish and just make it look like a language?

Gmr Leon · Mar 16, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkie dude

can't we just accept that the people at GW just started writing gibberish and just make it look like a language?

We? You, yes, but me not unless they say something about it..

FireFox · Mar 16, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmrLeon

We? You, yes, but me not unless they say something about it..

Give it up, he's probably right.

digimonizm · Mar 17, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

looks a little like Sanskrit to me guys.

thelastwolf · Mar 17, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57

Lets see... English Hello, French Bonjour (Hello), Not every langauge translates letter for letter.

windragon · Mar 20, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

Thankyou! Just because letters repeat, it doesn't mean the words aren't right. Though I PERSONALLY(don't start yelling at me

) don't think Anet ever made any languages. It would be really funny if they threw gibberish together, and somehow it turned out being able to become a language. lol. Though if you can translate this, then wow good job. I may even help just for kicks.

kduv889 · Mar 27, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

im tellin' yall, it translate into BORK BORK BORK!! the Guild Wars language!

mauahaha