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shoogi · Jul 06, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Tsumei village-
"This pastoral agricultural community has remained virtually unchanged for almost a thousand years, and its temples and farmhouses are among the oldest examples of ancient Canthan architecture in the empire. Thanks to the preservation efforts of Master Togo, wealthy tourists from Kaineng City have so far been prevented from spoiling Tsumei Village's idyllic splendor and historic buildings."

is there any technological developement in guildwars? :X

Neriandal Freit · Jul 06, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Such in the way that we are posting these messages, or in a different manner?

Because by that, they could mean that rather then using a one wheel cart, they use a four wheel cart as their techonogloy and knowledged advanced, etc., maybe nto so much as in the "Rather then candlelight, we have nightlights...oooh ahhh."

seut · Jul 06, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoogi

is there any technological developement in guildwars? :X

Summit Dwarves have this:
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Image:Iron_Forgeman.JPG

Mournblade · Jul 06, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

The industrial revolution has not hit Tyria, if that's what you mean. You could theorize that in a world with magic, there has been no real need for scientific progress. (Go check out the dwarves in the shiverpeaks though, especially Sorrows Furnace - they have some more sophisticated devices they use for mining...)

Onarik Amrak · Jul 07, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Maybe we'll have Crossbows by the time GW2 rolls around.

I mean the Dwarves have those ballistas... and Asura are supposed to be pretty good with this kind of stuff right?

Willow O Whisper · Jul 07, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Maybe we'll have Crossbows by the time GW2 rolls around.

I mean the Dwarves have those ballistas... and Asura are supposed to be pretty good with this kind of stuff right?

Agin gw is a magical world so the Asura won't be using "technology" but instead magic. So as said in the above posts gw doesn't need 2 improve their way of living by technological means. So i don't think we should expect the Asurians being GW's answer 2 the Gnomes and Goblins in wow.

Maria Moon · Jul 08, 2007, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Yeh, as posted above magic has resulted in the lack of thechnological advancement, but you never know hey, I mean you don't see flying carpets or wagons to transport people around the gw universe, maybe 1 day the people of gw will start evolving, just because there is not need for a thecnological advancement does not mean it won't happen , sure it having magic available might slow it down, but we can't say for sure that it will deffiantly NEVER happen AT ALL.

mazey vorstagg · Jul 08, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

Thing with the Iron Forgeman. He isn't even a robot he's a shell animated by the spirits of three Flame Djinn. So more magic

But, looking at Keineng city, I'd say there are factories there even if you can't go into them. If not factories at least sweatshops where peasants make cloth or forge swords.

Onarik Amrak · Jul 08, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

There were wagons transporting people!

The Ascalonians were on wagons while being carted through the Shiverpeaks.

Damasus · Jul 09, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52

The Dwarfs at least have a rudimentary knowledge of gunpowder (as seen in The Final Assault.) Perhaps by the time GW2 rolls around, they'll have refined the concept of muskets, cannon, etc. Also, the Stone Summit were building an iron war horse (tank) during the even of prophecies. Although there is nothing to disprove they weren't going to power it with another flame djinn, it seems a bit unlikely and would therefore indicate a highly advanced knowledge of steam power. Finally, Pre-Searing Ascalon had water mills, which were the basis of the very first factories in the real world. Given that not every peasant can use Stoning to grind grain, or create a Maelstrom to wash clothes, it stands to reason that technology would advance. One must remember that at the time of the game all the continents are beset by plagues, wars, apocalypses, and many other calamities which require heroes. Such a situation does not breed technological innovation.

Onarik Amrak · Jul 09, 2007, 06:30 AM // 06:30

LoL, I can just imagine peasants using powerful magic to do chores.

I'm using Fertile Season on the lawn!

I'm using Searing Flames on pot of soup!

mazey vorstagg · Jul 09, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Actually I thoughts that the Iron Horse was the train, seeing as during the development of the train that was it's nickname.

Iron War Horse would have to be a train with guns or something.

I just had an idea though. What is the Stone Summit do use steam power but it is a flame djinn that heats the what with it's flame aura rather than burning coal. So possibly they just shove a flame djinn in the engine and it's body heat causes the water to boil and power the engine, good idea?

Damasus · Jul 09, 2007, 03:15 PM // 15:15

I was always under imprsession that the Iron War Horse was a war machine. Otherwise, why are the Deldrimmor Dwarfs so interested in destroying it? They seem too hard pressed to have the ability to try and sabatoge a domestic project of their enemy, and the Stone Summit don't exactly seem like the kind to make a peaceful vehicle, especially when they can use captured animals and slave labor to do any heavy transport they may need. As far as the flame djinn go, it is possible they are used to power the iron horse, just like the Iron Forgeman.

Eldin · Jul 10, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

GW's time period matches with Earth's medieval time period.

1072 AE = 1072 AD? It was medieval for us back then. The dwarves have some modern technology such as the Iron Forgeman, ballistae, and massive networks of mines full of gears and other technology because, in spirit of DnD lore, Dwarves are always masters of technology (although personally it always seemed like the Stone Summit were more advanced than Deldrimor, though perhaps we simply never see it).

So in this case, if GW2 takes place a few hundred years in the future, we could be entering the early renaissance/late medieval period - in other words, yes, gunpowder and crossbows ahoy!

Willow O Whisper · Jul 10, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

oh A-net please do not introduce something like the gyro blaster from WoW!.

I will hate u for it !

Damasus · Jul 10, 2007, 09:31 PM // 21:31

I doubt that technology will change that much. One must keep in mind that all three regions have just gone through events far worse than the real world Dark Ages. Given the chaos reigning worldwide at the moment, no one outside of a few small exceptions (a resurgant Kingdom of Deldrimor perhaps) will advance much technologically.

mazey vorstagg · Jul 11, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

I would like a renaissence game, there's never been one and it would make a nice change.

Maybe they'll be balls ?

arsie · Jul 11, 2007, 09:46 AM // 09:46

Granado Espada, or Sword of the New World is a renaissance MMORPG. Japanese RPG style controls, and styling.

http://www.swordofthenewworld.com/

Pay to play. Graphics comparable with Guild Wars.

Not my cuppa tea though, both the visual and playing style.

draxynnic · Aug 15, 2007, 06:39 AM // 06:39

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Originally Posted by Eldin

(although personally it always seemed like the Stone Summit were more advanced than Deldrimor, though perhaps we simply never see it).

My impression was that, being a civil war that the Stone Summit was winning until the PCs got involved, most of the technology in their territories was probably captured from Deldrimor - or were otherwise invented before the war. There's also the fact that we tend not to go into the Deldrimnor homes and mines but we do go into those of the Stone Summit, which means we have more contact with the technology of the latter.

Combine that with the fact that the Stone Summit probably do things with their technology that the Deldrimor could but choose not to (for instance, the Deldrimor dwarves may well know how to bind flame djinn but choose not to because it's too dangerous or because they prefer not to enslave sentient creatures) and you could certainly see how one could get the impression the Stone Summit are more advanced when they may actually be equal in what they know how to do.

Moving away from Deldrimor, however, one thing people seem to have forgotten is that there are actual cannons on the backs of those Siege Turtles.

mazey vorstagg · Aug 15, 2007, 08:52 AM // 08:52

New Theory: Well if magic and tech exist in the same world/civ then only one will develop because it is dominant. For example, if you can water plants with Maestrom then why develop hoses/sprinklers.
The need just isn't there

The stone summit (being separate and independent) refuse to learn magic used to menial tasks in Deldrimor and so have built machines to do things for them.