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Old May 24, 2007, 02:38 AM // 02:38   #21
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My characters are looking forward to death. They have some pretty freaking powerful friends in high places if you know what I mean... can you say, "Eternal Party?" I knew you could.
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Old May 24, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32   #22
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I really doubt there will be any expansions after GW:EN. With Anet focusing on GW2 they won't have the time nor the resources to develop another full expansion. If anything they will probably make a Sorrow's Furnace/Domain of Anguish type expansion just to try to keep players interested until GW2 comes out.
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Old May 24, 2007, 08:25 AM // 08:25   #23
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Thank you for the link, I hadn't even gone into that section of the GW website.

And yeah, I personally picture my characters going out in a blaze of glory. Old age is so.. boring. :P
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Old May 24, 2007, 08:29 AM // 08:29   #24
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The problems of Resurrection are not unique to GW. Wherever you have a method of resurrecting the dead, you eventually get to the question of "Why does anyone die at all, then?".

Most commonly, the response is that all resurrection abilities are granted by divine beings, who are not bound to resurrect someone. Essentially, the priest asks his divine supporter to resurrect someone.

If this is a mighty hero during a battle for a cause the divine supports, the divine of course grants the request. For an "unworthy", the request is not granted.
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Old May 24, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52   #25
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Ha! my main character will never burn out or just fade away. At the final battle when all seem lost, the wammos are broken and defeated, the eles are tab out of their energies, the monks and necros have nothing left but 5 energy. My character would step in, say something heroic then kill the boss (ninja style) then say some more heroic stuff, get off with Gwen (if she'd 18 or above). And move in to that floating castle near fishermen's haven.

200 years later, and he'll still be around to give out his advice to the new heroes of his bloodline, Obi One Kenobi style.
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Old May 24, 2007, 03:09 PM // 15:09   #26
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my monk's going out with the biggest freakin' symbol of wrath you've ever seen.
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Old May 24, 2007, 04:10 PM // 16:10   #27
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And what I meant about old age; Let's say you're in a battle, being hacked to peices by some axe wielding bad guy. The Monk in your group casts protective sprit, healing breeze, Etc. and is able to keep you from dying. In terms of the game world, you can imagine the image of someone being hacked with the axe, and their wounds healing almost spontaneously as fast as the enemy can inflict them. That being the case, wouldn't it seem a simple matter for your local monk to be able to rejuvenate your failing kidneys and liver, clean out the cholesterol from your ateries and possibly clear up that blood clot that might come loose and cuase you to have a stroke (The symptoms of getting old)? I know it's more complicated than that, and they are two different things. But, one of the main goals of our current medical science is to stop or cure aging somehow, why would their case be different? and I'd imagine that Magic would make things much easier, as it does with everything else!
Sure, but, like a minion, your health degeneration is eventually going to reach into levels that a Monk can't support. Unless the gods, or specifically Dwayna or Grenth, see it fit to keep you alive, you're not going to be there forever. To stay alive for any significant period longer than normal, you'd have to have a team of Monks devoted completely to maintaining your lifeforce.

Then again, this is all semantics and lore and speculation, so I guess anything is possible with enough power. Anet is the only one who can say yes or no to artificial immortality, and we can safely assume they've said no until we see Koss with a team of Norns taking down frost wurms.
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Old May 24, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41   #28
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This is interesting...

Okay, we can say that as the "chosen" we can be resurrected because we were prophecized to full fill the prophecy. We do it because the 5 gods want Abadon to stay banished and they don't really have the time to train newbs since we, the chosen, are already well on our way to doing the task. So once the gods have no more use for us, it is time to go to the Mist.

One can also speculate that you can rez a dead character, but what happens when you try to rez a character that is suffering from permanent health degen? The character dies repeatedly. I also find it hard to rebirth a 55 who has already died once.

Can anyone explain to me, if your characters goto the hall of monuments or something, can we play our old characters to gain more things (titles, etc.) and then change to see that the monument has changed? If so, it'd be like Hiro going back in time and changing your characters so they look even more impressive.
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Old May 25, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00   #29
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Guys, our characters don't die of old age or get married or go onto further unwritten adventures.

They're left on the game servers for GW1.

...They're not living things.

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Old May 25, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12   #30
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You're no fun!

We're talking about the in game lore associated with Death and what it is in the game...
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Old May 25, 2007, 08:34 AM // 08:34   #31
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Guys, our characters don't die of old age or get married or go onto further unwritten adventures.

They're left on the game servers for GW1.

...They're not living things.

...
-_- Who invited Mr. Dooms into the party?

Yeah I know they're not living things. But I like to give some back story to my character. The time between GW:EN and GW2 is pretty long in real life as well as in game. By then I could be buying a bigger house, bigger car, ask my girlfriend to marry me, christ! I might even have kid then.

And when or if I come back to GW2, it'll be nice to see a new generation of heros, who are still green but with a great heritage behind them. And a set of back story of how he comes to be.
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Old May 25, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36   #32
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Guys, our characters don't die of old age or get married or go onto further unwritten adventures.

They're left on the game servers for GW1.

...They're not living things.

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Read up on what a lore forum is before you drop in to state the most obvious.
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Old May 25, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58   #33
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Well since in GW2 we play as the offspring of our GW1 characters, we ALL are going to get a life and find a spouse...

...eugh. Even Orion.

It is possible that nobody can be resurrected, and, as you all said, since the Monk calls upon help from the Gods to bring someone back, the Gods would only grant this to the Chosen. But that means that Mordakai is a Chosen, as well as pretty much everyone. Then again, in GW we are treated like we are some of few Chosen, though every human player (and even some NPCs) are Chosen.

Just how rare is it to be a Chosen?

I'm thinking after GW2's released, ANet will write novels to bridge the gap between GW:EN and GW2.

They'd better!
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Old May 27, 2007, 02:30 AM // 02:30   #34
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OOO! NOVELS! what novel idea

Back on topic though-

Thank you all for contributing to this thread, it is very insightful

Good point about the permanant health degeneration; I suppose at some point the characters would really just get to old to be ressurected with any great and lasting success.
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:49 PM // 15:49   #35
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my view is that all the heros who die. i.e. rurik ect die in sarifice. does this have some symbolism to the Gods?

but also the god arent always in charge.

shiro traps spirits. the ele in the canha place for spirits is supposed to have gotten eternal life on her own!

the lich is pretty old ehh. but also all the evils are connected with abbadon so he may have given them these evil resurrecton skills.

so i think that to stop thegreat destroyer or wateva (ultimate evil..) we will sacrifice our life spirits (after having kids with gwen )

my theory i thank ye .
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Old May 29, 2007, 01:48 AM // 01:48   #36
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Borik, I think you may be right.

Perhaps people are always ressable (with some exceptions such as the Bloodstones, yet the NPC Chosen slain there can never be revived and we can - are we Super-Chosen?). It is just that those we know and love (Rurik, Saidra, etc.) who die, as borik said, died in sacrifice. The Gods, either due to the person's great honor in making the sacrifice or simply because it is their choice to die, allow them to die peacefully and respect their wishes - not allowing them to be resurrected (at least not normally - Rurik being brought back in the classic necrotic way is always possible).
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Old Jun 20, 2007, 09:51 AM // 09:51   #37
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i think that we are always ressable but at one point or another grenth decides its our time and we must pass the torch on too a younger generation. a generation where we are all new and everyone has a fair chance at the game... (no players with 1000k+3000ectos stored up)
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Old Jun 20, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58   #38
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My Monk will cast the biggest Shield Of Judgment before dying that saves everyone else while making the enemies own final attack obliterate themselves. =D.
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Old Jun 23, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #39
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My character looks forward to death if only to become a ghost that can haunt her ancestors and pester them incessently about how much better things were in her day and to sit up straight, comb your hair and brush your teeth.
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Old Jun 24, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58   #40
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If you die of old age, you're still old. Even if someone resurrects you, you'll just die again immediately, similar to a 55 with DP. >_>

Of course, that's also ignoring the principles of the Envoys and the Chosen of the Gods and Ascension and all that, which are explained in previous posts.
What if they were able to eat a holiday item, such as a cupcake to raise their health for little bit?
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