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Accursed · Feb 15, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05

heads up! this is my crazy idea! *prepares for flames*

There was only one being called the Mists, who made EVERYTHING. including the Gw universe, and the planet of Tyria. Tyria (who was actually a single being on the planet of Tyria) created Dragons. She realized they were to strong, so she weakened the dragons so badly, they had to hibernate. she then 'created' giants (as a line of defense against the dragons) who were so unintelligent, she killed them off, only letting few live. She then created humans as her last line of defense. she created other creatres to feed and strengthen the humans. she then created 7 humans who would guide the human race for centuries when she would return. God's did a very poorly job at doing this, so they went into hiding as well, leaving magical components which the creatre's found to ward off the humans. the creatre's found that these were so useful they killed off the humans, leaving about 3 million alive, which half of them are in the 'War of Elona'.

Tyria: The Sister of the Mists. Created All that is Concrete.
Giants: Strong, unintelligent creatres who were made as the first defense.
Humans: The dying, defenseless race who are the destroyed and last defense.
War of Elona: the last generation of Sunspears who are fighting off the Undead Army of the Coolio Palawa Joko and the 'Darkspears'.

Konig Des Todes · Feb 15, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by Blizzard.

heads up! this is my crazy idea! *prepares for flames*

There was only one being called the Mists, who made EVERYTHING. including the Gw universe, and the planet of Tyria. Tyria (who was actually a single being on the planet of Tyria) created Dragons. She realized they were to strong, so she weakened the dragons so badly, they had to hibernate. she then 'created' giants (as a line of defense against the dragons) who were so unintelligent, she killed them off, only letting few live. She then created humans as her last line of defense. she created other creatres to feed and strengthen the humans. she then created 7 humans who would guide the human race for centuries when she would return. God's did a very poorly job at doing this, so they went into hiding as well, leaving magical components which the creatre's found to ward off the humans. the creatre's found that these were so useful they killed off the humans, leaving about 3 million alive, which half of them are in the 'War of Elona'.

Tyria: The Sister of the Mists. Created All that is Concrete.
Giants: Strong, unintelligent creatres who were made as the first defense.
Humans: The dying, defenseless race who are the destroyed and last defense.
War of Elona: the last generation of Sunspears who are fighting off the Undead Army of the Coolio Palawa Joko and the 'Darkspears'.

...crazy idea is an understatement I think...although I suppose it goes on the same idea as Gaia/Mother Earth as being a living creaure in many cultures and whatnot...

Accursed · Feb 15, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

lol thx Aza

Gaia/Tyria is the only l337 hax04 explanation I could come up with. Goes with the storyline also.

ADGrady · Feb 19, 2008, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Ok here goes....

Imagine the real world.

Imagine a great catastrophe that destroyed everything and all records and knowledge. Life would start from scratch, and there would be no was to know what went on before the catastrophe, and records starting from this point on would be the "start of history"

Ok got that? Now back to guild wars.

So imagine a world like tyria, an advanced magical world. In this world were nine individuals, all mortals (similar to kormir). These 9, did something similar to what Lord Odran did, they opened a portal to the mists. The mists at this time were full of divine power (similar to the power kormir was engulfed in after defeating abbadon). Being the first mortals ever to enter the mists the divine power was thrust into them giving them supernatural powers.

These 8 mortals were named: Balthazar, Dwayna, Dhuum, Lyssa and Lyss (twin sisters), Melandru, Balthazar and his half brother Menzies, and one other unnamed person.

When the mists surged through them, all of them were given powers, but some strange things happened. Lyssa and Lyss became one being when empowered with the mists. Menzies, who was the last to enter the mists, did not receive as much power as the others, and so was weaker.

These new beings realized that they had the power to create and flexed their divine muscle to create the ancient dragons (Primordus, etc.) and the Giants. Creating such powerful beings made them weary and they created the Rift in the center of the mists as their home.

While they were resting, two travelers, Grenth and abbadon, stumbled upon the portal to the mists. They entered and were greeted by Dhuum and the unnamed god. Hearing the story of how the mists had granted the gods power, grenth and abbadon decided to kill Dhuum and the unnamed god to release their power back into the mists and claim it themselves. They had come at the perfect time because the gods were still weak, and grenth and abbadon killed the 2 gods and stole their power.

In the mean time, Menzies was living with his half brother in the area Balthazar created, The Fissure of Woe. Menzies became jealous of Balthazar’s power and began to wage war with him (a battle that is still going on today).

Untold amounts of time past, until finally the gods decided that they were strong enough again and created their own world. They put the dragons to sleep, so that they would not interfere, and created Tyria.

Wanting to be thought of as divine, the gods made sure not to tell anyone or thing of the world from which they came, making believe that they were eternal and sovereign

The gods loved their creation so much that they decided to live there (Menzies of coarse was not powerful enough to come) and resided in the city they called Arah. They created Glint and the forgotten to be the caretakers of Tyria.

And you know the rest.

Azael Durge · Feb 23, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Seeing as Abbadon was pretty much what all the murals made him out to be i think we can disregard the "The gods are the dragons, but personified in human form". As it is i think that the dragons were most likely the old gods or the giants that vanished. The dragons would have ruled over tyria and oppresed the humans as their slaves, Balthazaar and Co liberated the humans and absorbed the powers of the deafeted dragons. Over time everybody forgot about the dragons.

draxynnic · Feb 25, 2008, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by ADGrady

When the mists surged through them, all of them were given powers, but some strange things happened. Lyssa and Lyss became one being when empowered with the mists. Menzies, who was the last to enter the mists, did not receive as much power as the others, and so was weaker.

Lyssa and Lyss may well have been among the last to enter (and thus receive weaker power) as well, but instead of getting resentful like Menzies, they teamed up in order to be a match for the other five as a pair.

Regarding Dhuum/Grenth and the unnamed god/Abaddon, I'd be more inclined to think this might have been the result of a disagreement between the gods that resulted in the others arranging for them to be supplanted rather than simply being ganked by surprise while they were exhausted. Especially in Dhuum's case - unless the other gods had reason to think Grenth was better than Dhuum, one would think they would have taken steps to unseat the usurper and return Dhuum to his throne (there's also hints that Dhuum is/was a particularly nasty piece of work and that the other gods were quite happy for him to be knocked off). Abaddon's predecessor, of course, we know nothing about, so we don't know where Abaddon may have got his power from.

RiKio · Feb 25, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

My teory: There were several generations of gods that lied saying that they created the world.

In conclusion: When a bunch of five random guys got the Godness, then they destroy the world and make a new one. So, are dragons creatures that survided to the cataclysms of the Gods?

Yuhe Ji · Feb 26, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Well, the Tyrian Gods aren't like the monotheistic God that people believe in today. They are not omniscient or omnipotent as mentioned earlier. The Asurans obviously don't believe in them as gods, but as facets, with each god representing part of a whole (possibly the Mists?). The fact that they all represent part of a whole would mean that no god could be destroyed, which was why Kormir absorbed Abaddon's powers in NF.
I don't know exactly where I was headed with this, but just something I was thinking about. Maybe the Tyrian Gods are eternal, and are really facets of something like the Asuran believe.