Mar 27, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld...
Guild: [KCOR]
Profession: Mo/
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A biblical link to Nightfall and Kormir
Proverbs 27:20 - Sheol and Abaddon are never satisfied, and people's eyes are never satisfied.
Discuss
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Mar 27, 2008, 08:38 PM // 20:38
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Savannah, GA/USA
Guild: Bullet Proof Monks [BPM]
Profession: D/Mo
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Probably where they got the inspiration for it.
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Mar 27, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Iowa
Guild: United Jedi
Profession: Mo/
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KJV
Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied
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Mar 27, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: United Clans of Perfect Chaos
Profession: R/N
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Sheol refers to hell and abaddon refers to satan. The first part means satan always wants more souls. The 2nd part probably means people are greedy(and thus hell will continue to gain more souls)
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Mar 27, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45
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EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING
Join Date: Mar 2007
Guild: SMS (lolgw2placeholder)
Profession: Me/
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Abaddon can also be translated "place of destruction."
Abaddon is also the name of the angel, actually the archangel Michael, that abysses Satan.
Abaddon is Hebrew and can also mean "Destroyer."
If you want to be biblical, then there you go. Although, I doubt this is something that you want talked about here...
And yes, more then likely, that's where they got the inspiration for the name and all that.
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Mar 27, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nodnol
Guild: Meeting of Lost Minds
Profession: E/Mo
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He means the "Abbadon will eat your eyes" bit I think Katsumi.
Nice, I like it
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Mar 27, 2008, 09:24 PM // 21:24
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: The Cult of Doom
Profession: P/
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocrypha
somewhat related to the topic, I also found to be very interesting ^^
My main chars name means (essentially) "hidden song" in latin and I didnt even know it! How cool!
Last edited by Horseman Of War; Mar 27, 2008 at 09:28 PM // 21:28..
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Mar 27, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Oh, yeah. I am very aware of the Hebrew meaning of Abaddon and the point the author was trying to make . I just think that there is an interesting literal connection between the passage and Nightfall.
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Mar 28, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Dec 2007
Guild: Paladins of Eternal Truth[POET]
Profession: W/Mo
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Wow...that's interesting. What version was that?
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Mar 28, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 功夫之王
Profession: N/
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Sheol is not hell in the Christian sense. It is where ALL souls go. Purgatory is a much newer concept.
The rest of the translations are good though.
btw, everything is a reference to something else. If you try hard enough you can always find the source/inspiration used.
Even binary, while credited to Louis Pascal, was used by the I Ching for thousands of years in the orient. They used full or broken lines, crossed or uncrossed sticks, even coin tosses but in the end they are still representations of 1 and 0.
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Mar 28, 2008, 07:17 PM // 19:17
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: America. How about you, commie?
Guild: Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]
Profession: R/Mo
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a religious link.
If you go back to Prophecies, you'll see real life has a Rurik and an "Ashkelon" city.
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Mar 28, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36
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Krytan Explorer
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Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beregond
Wow...that's interesting. What version was that?
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I think it was the New American Standard Version. You can check different versions here. Sheol and Abaddon are the Hebrew words. Most translations have "grave" and "[place of] destruction". Loses their proper noun meanings, but catches the drift.
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Mar 28, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55
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Ooo, pretty flower
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
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Seeing how Abaddon is one of the seven aliases of Satan in Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, I am not surprised that they also make a reference to what people view as hell, even though Judaism doesn't technically have a hell. And as nebuchanezzar said, you can find a reference in everything, especially from things made nowadays.
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