Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Hall of Knowledge > Druid's Overlook

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old May 13, 2008, 03:32 PM // 15:32   #21
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Mist Walker Skarloc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Gods Of The Hot [GotH]
Profession: P/W
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
Abbadon defeated two of the five gods but was defeated when the other 3 joined in. Its best to read the actual source of the information rather than the wiki. There are only 6 True Gods.
Ok, that kinda owned this whole thread. But still, Abaddon defeated 2 of the 5 gods? What happened to them?
Mist Walker Skarloc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 13, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26   #22
Desert Nomad
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Ascalon
Profession: E/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
But still, Abaddon defeated 2 of the 5 gods? What happened to them?
They licked their wounds and came back with the others. Defeated doesn't mean killed. Abaddon was defeated by the Five, but he wasn't actually killed/absorbed until we came along.
DarkFlame is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 13, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02   #23
Forge Runner
 
Free Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: GW2G
Guild: Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkFlame
They licked their wounds and came back with the others. Defeated doesn't mean killed. Abaddon was defeated by the Five, but he wasn't actually killed/absorbed until we came along.
Exactly. By defeated it probably means they could not stop him rather than him using some uber powerful spell to destroy them. I'm going to guess the two gods were Melandru and Lyssa - though its just guess. Grenth and Balthazar dont sound like the types to lose a battle easily and Dwayna probably united them for the final battle.

Last edited by Free Runner; May 13, 2008 at 10:06 PM // 22:06..
Free Runner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 13, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #24
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Gmr Leon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nembool
Another interesting snippet from Wiki:-
Abaddon is the former God of Secrets. He used to be among the six Gods of Tyria, as the God of Water and Knowledge. However, he was visited by The Seers of Twilight, who told him how to defeat the other Gods, he failed in his attempt and was banished to the Realm of Torment. He remained the god of secrets during his imprisonment, while Grenth ruled over water as the God of Cold.
Link to the information if you will. There was no Prima Guide released alongside Nightfall, so where this information is coming from is most intriguing.

Last edited by Gmr Leon; May 13, 2008 at 11:33 PM // 23:33..
Gmr Leon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 14, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25   #25
Ooo, pretty flower
 
Konig Des Todes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nembool
I've been reading the Lore sections on GW Wiki and found the following:-

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tyria_%28world%29

The first section states that Abaddon defeated two of the gods, but was in turn defeated by the combined power of the other five. We know that the five were Dwayna, Balthazar, Grenth, Lyssa and Melandru. So who were the other two?

They are unlikely to be Dhuum and Menzies, as both of these are explicitly stated as working with Abaddon in other lore sections. I find it unlikely that they would work with Abaddon if they were defeated by him previously, gods being capricious and all. Plus of course, Dhuum was supplanted by Grenth and would ally with Abaddon against the other gods (or Grenth at least). Menzies is never specifically referred to as a god, according to Wiki, so I discount him too.

Also unlikely to be the Titans, despite them being referred to as Charr gods, as we know them to be servants of Abaddon.

Also unlikely to be the Great Destroyer, as he is a minion of Primordus. Having said that, it's also unlikely to be the Dragons themselves, as there are more than two of them buried out there in Tyria.

Naturally we can also discount Kormir, who replaces Abaddon, and the unnamed predecessor of Abaddon.

Anyone have any clues as to the identity of these missing two gods?

[Apologies if this question has been posted before. Searched Lore but found nothing].
First thing I must mention. Abaddon did not kill two gods, he had the strength of two gods. This could mean that he killed 2, one when he was a mortal, and one as a god, but that is never confirmed. The only in-game lore source of Abaddon killing another god was by The Apostate, which never mentions if Abaddon was a god or mortal at the time Abaddon killed his 'predecesor' so it is possible he killed one god and gained the powers of a second god.

Now, I will name all dieties, that are not proven to be false *Mursaat and Titans*.

1. Dwayna
2. Grenth/Dhuum
3. Melandru
4. Balthazar
5. Lysaa
6. Abaddon/Kormir
7. The Great Dwarf

If the god(s) Abaddon killed were ever mentioned, it would have to be the Great Dwarf.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NumberOfTheBeast
plus the dragons are servants of the gods I thought
O, no no no. The Dragons oppose the gods. They are supposedly older then the gods and stronger then them. If anything, the Gods served the Dragons, and after the Dragons went into hybernation, the gods changed how they did things. And now that the dragons are awakening, the gods are fleeing *according to the little info we know of GW2, the Gods completely leave tyria, aka no blessings/transport to the realm of the gods ever again*.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayson
Wasn't there mention before of an unused storyline regarding a spider god?
No, I hope to god your joking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigT
Im not sure about the great dwarf being one, Droknar was the great dwarf if im not mistaken and i always assumed that he was just a king and nevet a god.
No, Droknar was the first Dwarven king, not the Great Dwarf. The Great Dwarf was a 'giant' supposedly, as he used Anvil Rock as an Anvil, thats one big 'dwarf' .

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
god of :
- life
- Death
- Chaos/Energy
- Nature
- War/Battle/Fire

Abbadon - Secrets/lies
Kormir - Truth/knowledge
Great Dwarf = God of Stone/Strength (?)

well thats how i break them down.

seeing that even though Kormir replaces Abbadon she does not really replace him.

maybe Tyria needs a god of secrets/lies and will generate one again eventually.
Let me fix it for you, and make it easier to understand who is what.
Dwayna - Goddess of Air and Life
Grenth - God of Cold and Death
Melandru - Goddess of Earth and Nature
Balthazar - God of Fire and War
Lyssa - Twin Goddess of Beauty and Illusion
Abaddon - God of Water and Secrets
Kormir - Goddess of Knowledge
Great Dwarf - Unknown *can't be stone as that is same as Earth, which is Melandru, and Balthazar basically takes Strength*

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
i think there are two BIG missing ones as it stands though.

God of Air, sky, messenger god?

God of Water, Oceans. There HAS to be one.

I dont think Anet really though this through when they created the gods but any civilization that has a god of fire will have one for each of their known elements as well (either combined or separate).

Looking at the concept art of Chapter 4 i think its probable that Anet was going to perhaps introduce us to two more gods of the pantheon.

Sun god. (Aztec inspired)

Time god. (Chronomancer Class)
There is a God(dess) of air, Dwayna.
And there is a God of Water, Abaddon.

As for your element arguments, it is thought out. Ice, Earth, Air, Fire are all covered right away, and Water *a form of Ice* is brought in in NF.
Sun God would mean the leading god, which wouldn't happen as Dwayna is the head goddess. Time god is a good idea. One god that I believe is absolutely necessary in any belief would be a God of Balance. Can't have totality on one side or the other, always must be a balance of forces or else it would create Chaos.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
thing is apart from wiki we (well i certainly didnt) get the impression that Dwayna and Abbadon really took their "elemental" responsibilities seriously.

but maybe i missed out on critical text (i doubt it), not that im contesting it...it makes sense but its not forcibly what Anet had in mind (since they left it so vague, IE: they had nothing in mind).

Melandru is no doubt the god of nature. Gaia in RL terms and thus by extension "Earth" but not "Rock" (which Gaia is a part of here).

Its weird, God lore in GW is kinda like they took bits of the colours from MTG and gave them an avatar. Even adding the legendary 6th colour (Abbadon/purple) and at the same time....gave up 1/3 of the way through.

sorry im rambling.


I dont feel that Anet would have gone and given us the 2 gods overthrown by Abbadon spiel for C4. The world and lore of Tyria is sufficiently vague for them to be able to add new stuff whenever they want and just introduce them as " far away other gods looked upon these brave heroes with interest..." etc.

its easy, which is partly or even fully the reason for which lore is soooooo imprecise. so they could just tack on new chapters quickly.
In the scriptures of the gods, they use their elements quite well. Abaddon sinks a ton of ships, Grenth freezes the land over, Balthazar is symbolized by fire*I think, not sure on that one*, etc etc. To me, the god lore in GW was taken from ancient mythologies, multiple gods each governing different things, fire and war is usually put together, as is air and life, death is cold in a way so that makes sense, as does earth and nature. I personally think you don't look into lore enough, because I have only seen loopholes in lore that is "ancient" in the game, which is actually VERY natural if ANet is trying to make the game more realistic, older things are, the less we know.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
The closest thing to air would be Dwayna, she's the goddess of life, warmth AND air.

As for water, Abaddon's the god of secrets/knowledge/magic and water.
By the way, I didn't know Abaddon was the god of lies? Maybe he is, but I always thought he, being the god of secrets, gave truthful knowledge to his followers that he should have kept secret. He did, after all, give mortals magic and he did give them too much which is why the other gods were pissed with him.
Abaddon isn't called a god of lies, he just took that out of the idea of secrets, when you keep a secret, usually you lie, same thing with calling Kormir the goddess of Knowledge and Truth, although called that in game, the same principle exists.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Free Runner
Abbadon defeated two of the five gods but was defeated when the other 3 joined in. Its best to read the actual source of the information rather than the wiki. There are only 6 True Gods.
The day has finally come, when I disagree with Free Runner. He did not actually defeat two of the five gods, in actuality, there were 7 gods, he killed on to gain the power of two gods. It says that Abaddon was able to overpower two of the five gods. That is, unless I misread it, which I don't think I did, and what I read was not wiki, but directly ANet supplied info. I'll search around for it and post it up later when I do find it. I think it was a NPC in NF.
Konig Des Todes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 14, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38   #26
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Mist Walker Skarloc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Guild: Gods Of The Hot [GotH]
Profession: P/W
Default

Ok, from the above post, I assume Abaddon pretty much left two of the gods lying on the floor, bloodied and beaten using the power he gained from the two of the seven gods he did kill, and was about to kill/absorb their energy when the other 3 turned up and beat him back.

As for the argument for the Great Dwarf being a god, I think so. he could be the god of forge, since dwarfs do say that they'll go to the Great Forge when they die and be with the Great Dwarf. About Anvil Rock, he probably used that as an anvil when the gods of Tyria lived among mortals and we know from meeting Abaddon that gods are giant humanoids, so that does seem likely.
Mist Walker Skarloc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 14, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23   #27
Forge Runner
 
Free Runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: GW2G
Guild: Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
The day has finally come, when I disagree with Free Runner. He did not actually defeat two of the five gods, in actuality, there were 7 gods, he killed on to gain the power of two gods. It says that Abaddon was able to overpower two of the five gods. That is, unless I misread it, which I don't think I did, and what I read was not wiki, but directly ANet supplied info. I'll search around for it and post it up later when I do find it. I think it was a NPC in NF.
Actually he won over those 2 two gods. He did not go on a massive killing spree to absorb power from different deities (unless your talking about him becoming a god). Two of the five gods tried to stop him and failed. That is called defeat.

The Great Dwarf is considered different from the 6 gods therefore he is not included in the group. We still dont exactly know the power behind the great dwarf - as in is he an actual god in the Mists or is he just power.

Also Mist if he had killed 2 and defeated 2 more that would mean there were 8 gods not 7....
Free Runner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 14, 2008, 09:02 AM // 09:02   #28
Jungle Guide
 
Sleeper Service's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: CULT
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Abaddon

Abaddon was angered by this and he gathered his strongest followers, the demon Margonites, to assault the weak spot of the Rift so he could overthrow the other five gods. Although Abaddon was strong enough to defeat the joint forces of two gods, he still could not withstand the power of all five gods united.
i agree with the notion that the way this is written can lead to confusion.

scenario 1. Abbadon overpowers 2 gods.

scenario 2. Abbadon has the power to defeat 2 gods (but doesn't since he is faced by five).

In scenario 1 we read the text as is, in scenario 2 we interpret Abbadons "power level" as a description.

example : Tom Strong had the strength of ten men.
Sleeper Service is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 14, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18   #29
Academy Page
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
Guild: SHS
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GmrLeon
Link to the information if you will. There was no Prima Guide released alongside Nightfall, so where this information is coming from is most intriguing.
This link comes from the Wiki:-
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Abaddon

But, as has been mentioned previously in this thread, the information there is not necessarily 100% accurate due to Wiki's subjective nature. I've never heard mention of these Seers of Twilight, so wondered if anyone else can corroborate with an Anet/in-game reference.
nembool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 14, 2008, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #30
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Shadowmere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: The Grim Squeakers [REAP]
Profession: N/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
As for the argument for the Great Dwarf being a god, I think so. he could be the god of forge, since dwarfs do say that they'll go to the Great Forge when they die and be with the Great Dwarf. About Anvil Rock, he probably used that as an anvil when the gods of Tyria lived among mortals and we know from meeting Abaddon that gods are giant humanoids, so that does seem likely.
That actually makes a lot of sense, the Great Dwarf could be the "God of Creation" or something of that nature, not as much of a "god" as the other 6 but more of a powerful diety with rather straightforward powers, maybe even "contracted" by the other gods to create Tyria in the first place. It makes sense, he's worshipped by the Dwarves, some of the most inventive and creative races in GW (save the asura), and most things attributed to the Great Dwarf are things having to do with creation, Anvil Rock and all the aforementioned forge refrences.
Shadowmere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #31
Ascalonian Squire
 
General Marzaq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Profession: A/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mist Walker Skarloc
The closest thing to air would be Dwayna, she's the goddess of life, warmth AND air.

As for water, Abaddon's the god of secrets/knowledge/magic and water.
By the way, I didn't know Abaddon was the god of lies? Maybe he is, but I always thought he, being the god of secrets, gave truthful knowledge to his followers that he should have kept secret. He did, after all, give mortals magic and he did give them too much which is why the other gods were pissed with him.
To me makes more sense that the god of lies is Lyssa and not Abaddon. Lyssa is the goddess of Illusion and Chaos.

Ilussion=Lies

And in any case Abaddon and Lyssa are not the only ones who lie. if not what is the whole "His name has been eradicated from all history,
burnished from all monuments, condemned as blasphemy".

Abaddon fit more with the Lovecraftian horror theme of Knowledge=Madness because when you have knowledge you can see the true horrors of reality. Maybe Abaddon was aware of the imminent awakening of the dragons and everything that he did was a preparation for that.

“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents...”

We do not know what these dragons are and Judging by their descriptions are far more ancient and powerful than the gods.
Perhaps the ancient dragons were the first or among the first creatures in existence before the gods appear or perhaps they were servers of other beings.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowmere
That actually makes a lot of sense, the Great Dwarf could be the "God of Creation" or something of that nature, not as much of a "god" as the other 6 but more of a powerful diety with rather straightforward powers, maybe even "contracted" by the other gods to create Tyria in the first place. It makes sense, he's worshipped by the Dwarves, some of the most inventive and creative races in GW (save the asura), and most things attributed to the Great Dwarf are things having to do with creation, Anvil Rock and all the aforementioned forge refrences.
Personally I would ask to Arenanet a little more originality on this point. Instead of the typical story "Gods created the world" I would suggest something in the style of Greek mythology or Nordic: In the beginning there was only chaos and from there emerged the first beings or primordial forces.
General Marzaq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2008, 03:55 PM // 15:55   #32
Ooo, pretty flower
 
Konig Des Todes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by General Marzaq
To me makes more sense that the god of lies is Lyssa and not Abaddon. Lyssa is the goddess of Illusion and Chaos.

Ilussion=Lies

And in any case Abaddon and Lyssa are not the only ones who lie. if not what is the whole "His name has been eradicated from all history,
burnished from all monuments, condemned as blasphemy".

Abaddon fit more with the Lovecraftian horror theme of Knowledge=Madness because when you have knowledge you can see the true horrors of reality. Maybe Abaddon was aware of the imminent awakening of the dragons and everything that he did was a preparation for that.

“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents...”

We do not know what these dragons are and Judging by their descriptions are far more ancient and powerful than the gods.
Perhaps the ancient dragons were the first or among the first creatures in existence before the gods appear or perhaps they were servers of other beings.



Personally I would ask to Arenanet a little more originality on this point. Instead of the typical story "Gods created the world" I would suggest something in the style of Greek mythology or Nordic: In the beginning there was only chaos and from there emerged the first beings or primordial forces.
Lyssa is not the goddess of Chaos. Where do people get this? It clearly states "Goddess of Beauty and Illusion" no where does it say Chaos.

I do like your imput of "Knowledge=Madness" because in many cases it does act like that, and in many games too, one that comes to my mind right away is Prince of Persia:Warrior Within, the Empress of Time knows her fate, and is grief stricken with it till she meets the prince, according to her at least .

I still hold to the theory of the gods being servents of the Dragons, who then rebelled and sent the Dragons into hibernation. And, seeing how the gods are no longer around in GW2, they leave in fear. Makes good sense to me at least. And if not that then it should be that the Dragons and the Gods are the same beings, but different sides of their personalities. That also works with the Gods leaving and having no contact at all.
Konig Des Todes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 18, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04   #33
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Accursed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Default

Is it a possibility that ArenaNet made the GuildWars gods almost identical towards the Gods of Mythology.

If so, then shouldn't there be 'half' gods (which are half human/god; offbreed of a human and a god).

Also if the heroes of GuildWars was able to defeat Abbadon and create the Goddess of Truths in the process, then we should have a little bid divine power like the gods.

If my theory is correct, then whose our father/mother. Maybe in GuildWars2 we will be able to find this out throughout the storyline.
Accursed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49   #34
Ooo, pretty flower
 
Konig Des Todes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
Default

Blizzard, there is a half god, his name is Menzies.

Just as in mythology, there are normal humans who get lucky and can kill strong monsters. For us, Abaddon was chained so he was weakened, allowing us to kill him.
Konig Des Todes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2008, 07:08 AM // 07:08   #35
Forge Runner
 
Longasc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Default

1. Dwayna
2. Balthazar
3. Grenth
4. Melandru
5. Lyssa
(+6. Abaddon/Kormir)

The original Pantheon.

6. Abaddon (fallen God)
7. Menzies
- Balthazar's evil half-brother. God or aspiring to become one. Half-brother means same mother or father, but who is the other mother/father then? Who is the father/mother of Balthazar???
8. Dhuum (fallen God, Grenth conquered his realm)
9. Kormir (replacement-God for Abaddon)
10. The Great Dwarf (Dwarven homie)
11. The Great Destroyer (god or demon, no idea)
12. Primordus + other ancient dragons (more Dragon than god, but powerful for sure)
13. Akivasha (my Necro, Grind-God Walking Amongst Mere GW-Players)


Who knows how many gods are out there, if we refer to the Gods in GW, we usually mean the original 5/6 that are worshipped by the humans.
Longasc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 19, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52   #36
Jungle Guide
 
Sleeper Service's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: CULT
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Lyssa is not the goddess of Chaos. Where do people get this? It clearly states "Goddess of Beauty and Illusion" no where does it say Chaos.
(...)

Just the impression it gives combined with the way mesmers are.

1. Corresponding damage type.

2. If Mesmers had a DnD style alignment they would be Chaotic (imo).

from dndwiki.

"Chaos implies freedom, adaptability, and flexibility. On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary actions, and irresponsibility. Those who promote chaotic behavior say that only unfettered personal freedom allows people to express themselves fully and lets society benefit from the potential that its individuals have within them."

sounds like mesmer to me.
Sleeper Service is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35   #37
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Accursed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Blizzard, there is a half god, his name is Menzies.

Just as in mythology, there are normal humans who get lucky and can kill strong monsters. For us, Abaddon was chained so he was weakened, allowing us to kill him.
Menzies is a half-god because his brother, Balthazar, has more power.

I ment half-god as in half-human, half-god/divine figure
Accursed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 20, 2008, 06:05 PM // 18:05   #38
Ooo, pretty flower
 
Konig Des Todes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Citadel of the Decayed
Guild: The Archivists' Sanctum [Lore]
Profession: N/
Default

Seeing how Balthazar is struggling in the war with Menzies, I don't think that Balthazar truly has more power, I think that Menzies is in fact a demi-god *may not be half-human, but is half-non-divine*.
Konig Des Todes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 21, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #39
Academy Page
 
Ruiksis Materious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Memento Vivire Memento [Mori]
Profession: W/
Default Great Dwarf, god or giant?

Perhaps, that the Great Dwarf, is not a god at all, remember, in 10,000 BE (before exodus) was the last sign of the Giants on Tyria, maybe the Great Dwarf was a giant, that could explain his massive height and using Anvil Rock as his forge.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin
Seeing how Balthazar is struggling in the war with Menzies, I don't think that Balthazar truly has more power, I think that Menzies is in fact a demi-god *may not be half-human, but is half-non-divine*.
Considering that Menzies has an entire army of shadows at his disposal, and Balthazar only has a select few chosen who has died and gone to the Mists, It would make sense that Menzies has somewhat of an upperhand, like most good army vs bad army scenerios.
__________________
WARNING: Redirect vision away from signitures. Side affects may include drowsyness, headaches...

Last edited by Ruiksis Materious; May 21, 2008 at 12:57 AM // 00:57..
Ruiksis Materious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 21, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54   #40
Krytan Explorer
 
RiKio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Plato's Cave
Profession: W/E
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nembool

But, as has been mentioned previously in this thread, the information there is not necessarily 100% accurate due to Wiki's subjective nature. I've never heard mention of these Seers of Twilight, so wondered if anyone else can corroborate with an Anet/in-game reference.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Seer

Rembemer that Mursaat Vs Seer topic? All is relationated.
RiKio is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What do the GW gods actually do, or rather, what *can* they do? Biostem The Riverside Inn 41 Jan 21, 2008 04:18 AM // 04:18
Enciah Sell 1 Apr 05, 2006 04:29 PM // 16:29
The War of the Gods The Destined Guild Leader Nolani Academy of Arts 34 Mar 30, 2006 11:36 PM // 23:36
The New Gods...anything said? Stub The Riverside Inn 24 Mar 08, 2006 04:30 PM // 16:30
Ranger Symphy Sardelac Sanitarium 10 Aug 05, 2005 08:34 AM // 08:34


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:56 PM // 20:56.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("