Curse

Eldin · Jan 22, 2006, 03:51 AM // 03:51

LAST WARNING. SPOILERS AHEAD.

As we all know, Guild Wars had a lacking storyline at places...behold! Here we speculate on such...as with older threads.

Some things I've been pondering:

-The terrible sacrifices that heroes make. Saidra is killed in two seconds, the mursaat move four miles a year, usually I have a necro with me who can use his MINIONS as suiciders. Brechnar. He doesn't even get attacked, really. He just goes "Jaja joo all suck! Taste steel!" then the mursaat get pissed and chase him offscreen, where he doesn't even die, I believe. His npc character just vanishes! Rurik's death wasn't really a sacrifice, but I find it to be the only "decent" death of a fellow hero.

-Justiciar Hablion. Okay, did anyone else find him odd? I mean, he's this valiant and noble hero, then all of a sudden, his voice changes GREATLY - he sounds like Rexxar from Warcraft, and starts going "I am uber! I am the one to end it all! I am he who will sound like an idiot when I say what I am saying now!".

-Similarity to Warcraft. Ok, I find the storyline quite similar to Warcraft in ways...

First, Rurik is the noble prince, like Arthas, who is desperate to save his people and goes off against his father, in the end he corrupts himself (well, with Rurik, he just gets himself killed by a tree and a sharp axe). An undead army, controlled by an evil lich. Either The Lich Lord or The Lich King. They could at least name this one, instead of keeping "The Lich <Fancy Title>". As we know, the mursaat are, perhaps, attempting to prevent the flameseeker prophecies, in which the titans would be unleashed and pwninate them. Forgotten and powerful...some similarity to night elves? Do we even know whether they're evil or just trying to save theirselves. Who knows, maybe WE'RE evil. It's ridiculously hard to tell.

-The Vizier was obviously the lich lord...the scepter, the voice, and his creepy doll-like eyes. In the ring of fire mission, "We are going to the top of the volcano." He forgot to say, "In truth, you can break through that door and beat the gunk out of the mursaat, but I prefer if you take the highly perilous route and die miserably. That's what I want for wintersday, you know." Speaking of that, why does he want us to GET PWND AND DIE on the way up the volcano, if he needs us to open the Door Of Komalie?
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Speculate on all the lore and storyline here...

Fantomvz · Jan 22, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24

ahahah, there a lot other threat had talk about how weird or lame GW storyline is. But man so far yours is best and funniest of all, do agree the story sucks, well so does pvp and pve game play.

The only reason GW is sold is because their low requirement (Good) graphic, and claim of MMORPG with no monthly fee, which we all know GW is not a MMOPRG.

Funny how A-net revise GW to be a CGORPG as in “Cooperative Global Online Role-Playing Game”. Sounds like when our G.W. Bush can’t find Massively Destruction Weapon in Iraq…lol.

Note: GW is not really “Global” yet…+)

Andy_M · Jan 22, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

To be honest, does ANY MMORPG (or whatever GW is defined as this week) have a decent plot ? Nice way to turn a funny post about the plot into a trashing of the game by the way...

Eldin · Jan 22, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

WoW, perhaps. I don't have it, but the Warcraft story has been strong for some time, I don't know if that would have what you call a "decent plot". GW is like the only CGORPG, I think ANet made that term up off the top of their head.

Lexar · Jan 22, 2006, 01:20 PM // 13:20

The ingame movies where we get to listen to Evennia talk about saidra's sacrafice are just not working for the players, to be honest, most people don't even know who it is, or at least don't have any connection to the character because we maybe only saw her once in a movie. Same goes for Brechnar, we get to see him maybe twice and then he dies, so the whole end-mission movie where he's cremated is just lame and boring because you just don't care about an npc you only saw once, and briefly for that matter. I didn't feel betrayed by Markis because the last time we saw him, he said one sentence in the jungle, and THAT's it. Anet needs to give us more time to at least get familiar with the npc's if they want us not to laugh at the scenes where they die, because right now we just don't care. Rurik is the exception of the rule, pretty much, but since he had horrible AI, a lot of people are happy they don't have to follow him into overwhelming odds anymore.

Sekkira · Jan 22, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

But that's why I liked Rurik. Despite the overwhelming odds, he still charged into battle knowing his chances of survival were slim while shouting out a cheezy line all in the name of his people of Ascalon.

Crazy, but very brave dude. I didn't like how cold ending he had at Hell's Precipice where you're like "Okay, I'll kill you, whatever."

Eldin · Jan 22, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Rurik's warcries were just weird.

"You are a pox on Ascalon, and I am the cure!"

I didn't care for Markis at all, really. Evennia creeped me out. She has to be a Krytan, yet she doesn't have an awesome accent like Saidra. Then again, I don't remember what Dorian sounded like. Speaking of Dorian, anyone else agree with me that his legs were WAY TOO PUNY for his fatness?

Cjlr · Jan 22, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eldin

Speaking of Dorian, anyone else agree with me that his legs were WAY TOO PUNY for his fatness?

Yeah, he always creeped me out... he was just... soooo short... and not even, it was just his legs...

Markaedw · Jan 22, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

Dorian has a Western Asian Accent (at least that is what it sounds like to me), his clothing looks almost Tai or Cambodian (based on period movies).

The only time I saw Saidra was in the Riverside Bonus.

GW Online has a really good thread about the history and alphabet of Tyria.

http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=382438

Studio Ghibli · Jan 22, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Did it ever bother anyone that Rin, the capital of.. Ascalon?.. was outside of the wall?

Correction.

It was not only outside of The Wall, it was outside of a second wall that really isn't important enough to name. Even more, not only does no one at that second wall realize Rin is burning, it looked like Rin had been burning for say, five-to-ten years.

This, as well as the comparison between the "good" dwarves and the "bad" dwarves (the bad had -way- cooler toys) has made me consciously aware that good is stupid and evil is always about one-upmanship.

Eldin · Jan 22, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

I didn't get Rin either. Also, I'm pretty sure the map description of Ascalon City says it's the largest city in the kingdom and the center for cultural etc or something like that, it only makes sense it be the capital, then. And I agree with you about Rin burning. I thought "Omfg Rurik who gives a *bleep* about Rin?!?! it's been burning since the searing, you idiot". Unless it was like, "Rin is burning! I must go and save my royal teddy bear!". Else I see no reason for Rurik to waste his time saving Rin.

Dwarves always have technology, that's a truth in all games, really. Still, I too am surprised. Also, all dwarves should have those awesmome accents like in Warcraft, "Where be me beer, ya bums? I needs ta be pissed ta fight!". In GW, King Jalis is like the only one with a dwarven accent. Everyone else sounds...normal. THAT'S SO WRONG.

MMSDome · Jan 22, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

what bugged me is they never thought to tell us why they were at the war with the charr. There wasnt enough background info to the game. And now with this new update we are helping out people we dont even know, why? The game is still way to easy, they need more info and missions and storylines to back the game up.

Markaedw · Jan 22, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

There is another bloodstone out there.

Eldin · Jan 22, 2006, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Counting the keystone, there are 5 bloodstone shards, or at least the manuscripts say that. Let's see what we have so far:

-The Shiverpeak Bloodstone they planned to kill Evennia and Saidra on.
-The Bloodstone in the Bloodstone Fen mission.
-The Bloodstone you fight the Lich Lord on.
-The Bloodstone by the Door of Komalie's seals. (Or is this the same as the above bloodstone...)
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Hm, yes. Surely it is in the Crystal Desert or Ascalon, seeing how every other shard is mostly in the western area of Tyria.

MMS - Did you read the manuscripts (that come with the game)? They give a fair bit of backstory, though not much, I agree.

MMSDome · Jan 23, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

yes i did read the little black book thingy. I still didnt really understand what was going on just a bunch of Cynn using firestorm and them running from Nolani and all that. Basically it was the Acadamy of Nolani mission because they got storm caller. It didnt help to much

Eldin · Jan 23, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

I mean the other thing. They talk about the creation of the bloodstones, the founding of the mantle, etc.

chris_nin00 · Jan 23, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

The book gives hints that the lich is the b----

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I've read the little black book(note to be confused with the movie) countless of times. I used to read it before I sleep

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I think only 2 blood stones are in this game. The next 3 will be presented in the next chapters I think. But what do I know.

Bowman Artemis · Jan 23, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

I think that the bloodstone you fight the lich on is actually the keystone, but since I have never actually reached him, I can't be sure.

Ellington · Jan 23, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

This isn't so much a storyline issue, but I've always thought it was kind of strange that soldiers in a well-coordinated army like the Mursaat or Stone Summit will stand idly by while their comrades are being slaughtered, unless the fight comes within about fifty yards. Are they just that lazy? :\

Halmyr · Jan 23, 2006, 12:57 AM // 00:57

There are 3 Bloodstone in here. 1 in maguma, 1 in the shouth shiverpeaks and 1 on the Ring of Fire.

so the 2 others should be somewhere else.

What really intreaguis me is those burning charr statues, they look like burning titan and the lich if you look them up close. mhm Did the lich give to the charr the power they needed to start the searing, a lot of speculation can be made, but only Anet knows, so I say next chapter OR, ANET, give us more insite on the story line, PLEASE.

And I'm serious, look I cap please.