Curse

Rovmis · Nov 12, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

Just to add on a little something in the realm of torment an NPC Vialee says that charr were a part of the fall of Orr. Interesting =P

Free Runner · Nov 12, 2007, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Because we know nothing about Tyria going back from the last time the GL walked it. All we have to go on is Dragons, Gods and GL.

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Originally Posted by Rovmis

Just to add on a little something in the realm of torment an NPC Vialee says that charr were a part of the fall of Orr. Interesting =P

Thats not really about the Dragon and is pretty well known

. After the searing began the Charr got to Orr and the Kings Adviser (Vizier Khilbron) attempted to (or looked like he was attempting to) "save" Orr from the Charr invasion ,blowing it up in the process and taking Orr and the Charr down.

Lil Ferk · Nov 14, 2007, 01:42 AM // 01:42

If I remember right wasn't that big dragon supposed to wake up in our time but defeating the "great destroyer"(didnt destroy much to me) Hold up the awakening by 250 years idk i might just be rambling because i dont want to do my homework but i think thats it

Mark Nevermiss · Nov 14, 2007, 02:59 AM // 02:59

Yea thats whats its supposed to be, but tbh I am not happy with the way the Great Destroyer turned out to be nothing more than a minion [albeit a general] of that dormant beauty.
So all this lore of the "ancient" Doldrimor dwarfs about the antagonist of their Great Dwarf turned out to be about that silly puppet. What does that say about its arch-enemy, the Great Dwarf himself? BAH!, I say.

Whisper Evenstar · Nov 14, 2007, 03:38 PM // 15:38

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Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss

So all this lore of the "ancient" Doldrimor dwarfs about the antagonist of their Great Dwarf turned out to be about that silly puppet. What does that say about its arch-enemy, the Great Dwarf himself? BAH!, I say.

He may be a Great Dwarf, but he is still just a dwarf - cut the dude some slack...

Neriandal Freit · Nov 15, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

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Originally Posted by Whisper Evenstar

He may be a Great Dwarf, but he is still just a dwarf - cut the dude some slack...

Like I've said, I doubt we've seen the end of the Dwarves and yet to only learn about who or what the Great Dwarf truely is.

For as I've said in this thread, The Great Destroyer 'general' could have been more easily to the The Great Destroyer's general. Implying that the Dragon at the end name could also go by "The Great Destroyer", just as Charles goes by Charlie, Chuck, Chester, Chucky, Chas and so forth.

draxynnic · Nov 15, 2007, 03:52 AM // 03:52

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Originally Posted by Whisper Evenstar

He may be a Great Dwarf, but he is still just a dwarf - cut the dude some slack...

In the words of the Mad King: "One is the harbinger of the apocalypse and the other is an oxymoron."

In the words of Aeron Draxynnus: "So the Great Dwarf is going to destroy the world? I knew the little blighters were up to something..."

More seriously, my personal theory is that this implies the Great Dwarf was also someone's servant - a high-ranking Eternal, possibly, or, considering the connection with stone and the Great Dwarf being involved with the creation of the world, possibly one of Melandru's assistants.

illistas · Nov 15, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Funnily enough, it's not the first time the heroes just walked away from something...

Remember the Sceptor of Orr? I guess we just forgot about it and it disappeared.

Doesn't livia take it at the end of GWEN.?

Free Runner · Nov 15, 2007, 10:32 PM // 22:32

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Doesn't livia take it at the end of GWEN.?

Yes. But we still walked away from it at the end of Prophecies.

Delicious · Nov 16, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Is it possible that those dragons are the serpents who left tyria long ago? They left Tyria because of the humans fighting each other etc. Maybe they want some revenge.

Free Runner · Nov 16, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

The Serpents would be the Forgotton. They didnt leave Tyria, but left behind the world of men to live in the place men couldnt live - the Crystal Desert.

Whisper Evenstar · Nov 16, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by illistas

Doesn't livia take it at the end of GWEN.?

Personally, I left the Scepter of Orr laying on the ground hoping that one day a hot necro chick would find it, appreciate my 'gift', and want to settle down and make minions with me. That's just me tho....

Bouldershoulder · Nov 17, 2007, 05:25 PM // 17:25

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Originally Posted by Onarik Amrak

Funnily enough, it's not the first time the heroes just walked away from something...

Remember the Sceptor of Orr? I guess we just forgot about it and it disappeared.

Ha Palawa Joko too, and guess what happened to poor old Vabbi.

monstersparkler · Nov 18, 2007, 03:39 AM // 03:39

The lore of GW is getting more intricate, confusing, and generally a bit too thought out than HL2.

super strokey · Nov 22, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

I was just looking at the map in the tyria desert and was wondering if I might have seen a desert dragon. If you look right above the augury rock there is a series of boulders that look like they might belong in a series, i was thiking that they looked like spikes on a dragons back prehaps. Of course this could be nothing at all as well and jsut there for looks.

Malchior · Nov 22, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

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I was just looking at the map in the tyria desert and was wondering if I might have seen a desert dragon. If you look right above the augury rock there is a series of boulders that look like they might belong in a series, i was thiking that they looked like spikes on a dragons back prehaps. Of course this could be nothing at all as well and jsut there for looks.

Nope, that would be a Devourer that's simply not to scale.

However, the creature between the ring of fire islands and the remains of Orr, looks to be a Dragon-like creature with tenticles...much like the one described in the list of dragons...Plus it's an area that could possibly be deep sea and all.

Azael Durge · Nov 23, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Perhaps the dragons are the Giganticus Lupicus, the gigantic bones in the crystal dessert are dragon like.
And if we are going on the assumtion that the dragons were gods but balth&co stole their power howcome these dragons are still so powerful?

super strokey · Nov 23, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Nope, that would be a Devourer that's simply not to scale.

However, the creature between the ring of fire islands and the remains of Orr, looks to be a Dragon-like creature with tenticles...much like the one described in the list of dragons...Plus it's an area that could possibly be deep sea and all.

Its not a devourer, im not sure what your talking about but it looks like a bunch of rock pillars (rough ones) sticking out of the ground.

The Pocky Alchemist · Nov 26, 2007, 07:41 PM // 19:41

You're all wrong.

Ever wonder why the Scepter of Orr disappeared at the end of the first campaign?
Ever wonder why the Lich just sorta shrugged off the fact that he would die according to his own beloved Flameseeker Prophecies?
Ever wonder why that whole story didn't make quite as much sense as it should have?

Glint... was setting us up.

Just you watch. It's all gonna be her doing. She sent us back to the too-much-snow place, and had us get rid of some particularly annoying bosses, and made us give her the Scepter so she could plant it in Livia's path. She made Aldebern and Rurik thick-headed enough to let Ascalon fall while the Heroes Of Awesomeness are all still alive. She ruptured the barrier between worlds and led Lord Odran to break into the Mists, to destabilize the defenses between her reality and that of her arch-nemeses, the Gods of Tyria.

It's Glint. She's holed up in a single grain of sand and she's made of fail. She'll kill us all. Just you wait and see.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Nov 27, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Originally Posted by The Pocky Alchemist

You're all wrong.

Ever wonder why the Scepter of Orr disappeared at the end of the first campaign?
Ever wonder why the Lich just sorta shrugged off the fact that he would die according to his own beloved Flameseeker Prophecies?
Ever wonder why that whole story didn't make quite as much sense as it should have?

Glint... was setting us up.

Just you watch. It's all gonna be her doing. She sent us back to the too-much-snow place, and had us get rid of some particularly annoying bosses, and made us give her the Scepter so she could plant it in Livia's path. She made Aldebern and Rurik thick-headed enough to let Ascalon fall while the Heroes Of Awesomeness are all still alive. She ruptured the barrier between worlds and led Lord Odran to break into the Mists, to destabilize the defenses between her reality and that of her arch-nemeses, the Gods of Tyria.

It's Glint. She's holed up in a single grain of sand and she's made of fail. She'll kill us all. Just you wait and see.

As joking as that may ahve been, a good fraction of it sounded very, very possible. It'd be nice to think we were set up by the Vizier at first, and then to find out it was Glint all along putting the cement on the path to destruction. GW2 is gonna sure as hell be on wicked ride. This story is getting better and better.