Curse

Rathcail · Jun 12, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Actually, the Vizer is the lich.

Your logic does not belong to this thread.

9th Requiem · Jun 12, 2006, 02:26 PM // 14:26

There is a lot of baseless comments in this thread. it is a reasonable assumption to make, but there is one main flaw:

As that is a ceremonial family sword, it seems likely that all FDSs are from Elona origionally, and are passed down through generations. However, afaik, Adelbern still has his sword. Even if he doesn't, as he still lives, he should still ahve that sword if it's a family blade. This would pretty much break tradition entirely, and therefore it seems likely that either the Elonians export FDSs, and that particular one is just special to the quest giver, or they are able to be created by Ascalonians, who do not place such a reverance upon them.

M C H A M M E R · Jun 12, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

The Ascalonians farmed wammos for them....OWNED

Song Rui · Jun 20, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42

what bout icy dragon sword???
is that ruriks sword being putten in freezer and taken out after 24 hour???
and why can't android ever get one???

heist23 · Jun 23, 2006, 08:36 AM // 08:36

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Originally Posted by androidgeoff

That is because it is his

Just because it's a Fiery Dragon Sword doesn't mean that it's Rurik's sword.

(hey, they should make a green FDS for us to have at the end of Hell's...)

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Originally Posted by Yort the Bronze

Ho there! Yort the Bronze has need of a favor. If you do this favor for Yort the Bronze, he will offer you a boon! Yort has misplaced his Ceremonial Family Sword near an oasis in Prophet's Path. Don't ask how this came to pass, there were many Centaurs and Yort's ghastly demise involved, and he doesn't feel like going into details!

Will you help Yort recover his ceremonial family sword?

it was YORT'S fiery dragon sword, not RURIK'S.

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Originally Posted by androidgeoff

Alright, the guy you get the quest from is obviously trying to help out the Lich too.

He tells you to bring Rurik's sword to some "Ceremonial" resting place... when in fact it is so the Lich can nab it for himself and give it to his über Rurik Undead Pet

look at the Yort's request. does it say that he must return it to "some 'Ceremonial' resting place"?

where the hell is the Lich in any of this? as far as i know, he's not present in the desert. he pretty much dissapears. (wonder where he went. must've slept a while on the boat if he didn't move.)

none of your "facts" have any hard evidence. find some. because if Rurik's sword was Elonian, i guess the Trolls were Elonian too. so are Avicara Tengu. and the Stone Summit, too. hell, the list goes on.

you get my point. right?

Gorebrex · Jul 07, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Martian

If Rurick is part anything it's goat

Rurik doesnt have part goat in him, the goat has Ruriks part in him, making the goat say, "Eloninaaaahhhhhh!'

Cherrie · Jul 31, 2006, 12:14 PM // 12:14

Btw, Rurik and his father DO NOT HAVE royal blood in their veins, thei ain't even from nobility, according to Devona's Pre-Searing Quest. As they are not descendants of Doric than, they might as well be Elonians.

tONYY · Aug 02, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by lightblade

How can the prince of Ascalon be Elonian? It just doesn't make sense.

The queen of sweden is german

Rathcail · Aug 02, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

I say Rurik is Swedish.

Markaedw · Aug 02, 2006, 11:39 PM // 23:39

FDS may have been an Elonian design. Just like Ottoman furniture, just because I have an Ottoman chair doesn't mak me a Turk.

fiery · Aug 03, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

This thread has gone to kaput.

llsektorll · Aug 03, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

well rurik doesn't look the least bit from that region..... i think mhenlo looks kurzick, danika looks like a man, count zu heltzer sounds like a wimp... but lets not dwindle in the flaws

.... one thing this game lacks is a solid story don't expect complicated plots like how rurik wasn't actually the kings son but he was found and taken in by the king as his own.. or that he was of elonian mother and ascalonian father... or anything like that... just play and play don't question.... save all the thinking for coming up with new builds cuz there is a void in this game.. and its in the story...

Livingston · Aug 03, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

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Originally Posted by Markaedw

FDS may have been an Elonian design. Just like Ottoman furniture, just because I have an Ottoman chair doesn't mak me a Turk.

Dude don't try to hide it. If you have an Ottoman chair you are totally Turkish. Or you don’t actually have one. If you do I want screen shots. But from the way you spelled Turk I imagine it’s the former rather than the latter.

And Rurik has to be Elonian the evidence in this thread is just too solid to doubt, I don't understand how some of the posters on here don't get it. It's very straight forward and logical. They've even gone through the pains of tying the new class to Rurik. Ever wonder what Rurik’s second profession was? You probably thought he was just a straight warrior, but that's not true.

In the earlier part of the game when you do enter missions with him, he is constantly shouting battle cries that warriors don't use. The reason for this is that he is a warrior/paragon. But since he has been separated from his people he doesn't use the traditional paragon shouts seen in the preview events, though I imagine they will add some that Rurik uses later on when the actual game comes out and make it an elite skill so it doesn't ruin the secret storyline. You may then say that well you didn't receive any bonuses when he did his shout. Of course you didn't "see" the bonuses on your conditions as that would make it too obvious when they previewed the paragon powers. However, if you think about it, when Rurik shouted and rushed into battle, you went in right after him no matter how big the group and how unbeatable the odds seemed. Hello, morale boost anyone?

As stated above the Ascalon king wasn't of royal blood which further cements the validity of the theory. More than likely when Nightfall comes out they will reveal that even though Rurik's family was not of noble Ascalon blood that they were of Royal Elonian blood and thus Rurik’s little brother will emerge and be crowned king of Elonia to replace the corrupted Kanius who steals the throne from the current king. The fact that Rurik’s little brother could never live up to Rurik’s reputation with the people and with his father, until they had the falling out is an obvious set up for the coming story. So Rurik’s little brother will finally manage to step out of Rurik’s shadow and accomplish more than both Rurik and his father combined. It will also be nice to see what his name is as they never revealed it in Prophecies.

Of course that being said Anet will probably change it to some lame ass story at the last second since we already figured it out. Go figure

Livingston

Numa Pompilius · Aug 03, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Rathcail is right - Rurik is an ancient norse name. The most famous person of that name, apart from Rurik of Ascalon, was a chieftain of the Rus tribe, from the area in Sweden known as Roslagen (Rus Law) by the Baltic Sea, and one of the founding fathers of what would later become Russia.

As an aside this - that Russia was founded by foreigners, and Germanic foreigners to boot - was much to the dismay of Soviet historians, and they simply rewrote history to be more politically correct. The writer of the movie King Arthur seems to have relied on such Soviet sources, and have the Rus living by the Black Sea rather than the Baltic Sea.

Regardless of which sea he lived by, I do not, however, think Rurik of the Rus owned a fiery dragon sword, although he'd probably have liked to.

Former Ruling · Aug 03, 2006, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Its an FDS because they were too lazy to give it a Custom Skin..and FDS was the "default" skin in Chapter 1...

The whole Lore of the game is flawed to begin with. The Quest dialogue more times than not doesn't fit with the Story or Mission dialogues.

Like The Royal-ness of Rurik and his Dad. Devona implies in that quest that some don't like him because he isn't descended from Doric, BUT...In the "Guild Wars Manuscripts" and on the Offical Website, King Adelbern's profile Says he is a direct Descendent of Doric and his whole family has always been from Drascir (An Ascalonian city now in ruins).

Livingston · Aug 05, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

Don't be fooled by all of that stuff, Anet is actually constructing a story the magnitude of which the likes has never been known... known. Yeah!

With Ruriks little brother and that thing with Devona's cousin. Not to mention the Gwen's flute connection...

That’s the true reason that Anet will be coming out with all these chapters every six months. The story must be completed! They have to throw out these little things that seem contradictory in order to hide the true back ground of the story.

But believe me brother when all of this comes together you are going think oh sweet baby jesus this is the holy grail of RP storylines!

Mark my words with Rodgorts.

Livingston

Former Ruling · Aug 05, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Livingston

Don't be fooled by all of that stuff, Anet is actually constructing a story the magnitude of which the likes has never been known... known. Yeah!

With Ruriks little brother and that thing with Devona's cousin. Not to mention the Gwen's flute connection...

That’s the true reason that Anet will be coming out with all these chapters every six months. The story must be completed! They have to throw out these little things that seem contradictory in order to hide the true back ground of the story.

But believe me brother when all of this comes together you are going think oh sweet baby jesus this is the holy grail of RP storylines!

Mark my words with Rodgorts.

Livingston

I know the stories all work into each other, Thats why I don't really rant about it.

Alot of people missed this little fact, but the Factions storyline acutally takes place (in game timeline) DURING the Chapter 1 storyline. More specifically during the time You are traveling through Kryta and the Jungle. See Mhelno and the Heros of Ascalon are tied into the storyline - but there is a big gap in Chapter 1. You leave them in Kryta and dont see them again til the Desert....What were they doing? ENTER FACTIONS STORYLINE - Where upon reaching Kryta with you in Tyria, Mhelno hears of the troubles in Cantha and decides to help them (and of course sends back Canthans to help you out while he is gone [Chaos in Kryta for canthan born characters]). After defeating Shiro with the Canthan's the heros meet back up with you to go Ascend.

Some think it isnt true because Mhelno Says in the quest to go over to Cantha "Now that we pushed back the Charr in Ascalon I figured We'd get a break". But this is refering to the Battle at Rin (Nolani Academy mission) Where in you use the Stormcaller to defeat the charr that wanted to siege the city. This battle would have been just a few days ago in Ingame Timeline. Also this is way before the Titans were released to attack Ascalon - so at this point Mhelno has every reason to believe Ascalon is ok, and remember, you haven't actually found out about the Mursaat/Titan plans yet so its obvious Mhelno should think that the journey is over upon settling in Kryta.

I just wonder where in this timeline Nightfall takes place.

Roupe · Aug 06, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

If people dont like the king, they get replacements. And call them Kings...
Mhenlo must be Ruriks brother, they sound disturbingly alike

Somewhat off topic

Actually the Swedish Queen is part Brazilian part German
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvia_Sommerlath

And the Royal line was a Napoleon Officer imported from France, and adopted (as adult)into Swedish Royalty. Despite the new King beeing from France & Despite Sweden loosing its terriories (Finland) The New King didnt ally with the French & didnt reaquire Finland when he had the chance. He took Norway instead, To both the Swedish And Norweigians dismay. Norway broke off later on, and there was much rejoysing on the Norweigian side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernadotte

xXa1 · Aug 06, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

ive gotten an FDS from an Ether Seal in Abbadon's Mouth. not once did it ever dawn on me that that Ether Seal was Rurik in drag ...

oh but then again these are strange times in Tyria.

OMFGimCUTE · Aug 06, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

well, anyone know the story behind IDS?