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Lishy · Apr 02, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24

I think your forgetting that the Centaur command the Junundu.
So they DO have tactics.

Konig Des Todes · Apr 02, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

I think your forgetting that the Centaur command the Junundu.
So they DO have tactics.

No one but Joko and the players control the Junundu. So they DON'T have tactics.

Vvarden Ok Raden · Apr 08, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

The Mursaat would begin to win b/c of their Spectral Agony, but once all the armies fought for Infusion, I believe it would be down to the Undead Servents of Joko! ahhah!

Monk In The Box · Apr 08, 2008, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Destroyers and Mursaat
Destroyers-Amazing dmg, Extraordinary health.
Mursaat-Spectral Agony.

zling · Apr 09, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

it really depends how you divide the armies...
if you go pre-nightfall than you have a rather clear picture. when you include nightfall suddenly everything is mixed up with abbadon.
now lets not take huge armies such as shiro's entire army, abbadon's etc but rather sub armies.
so Torment Demons and Margonites are 2 different armies, hypothetically fighting each other...

in that case I think the Titans will win. the Mursaat are affraid of them, the Lich is(was) leading them and they're tough creatures that keep on breaking down to smaller creatures when dead. Mursaat come up second, assuming they deal with the Titans somehow nobody else can beat their spectral agony and other goodies...

Drews0 · Apr 10, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

To list the armies I'm considering:
Nightmare Horde = Kanaxai > Kanaxai Demons > Outcasts

Echovald Guardians = Urgoz > Urgoz Minions > Wardens

Mursaat Army = Mursaat > White Mantle

Shiros Army = Shiro > Shiro'ken > Afflicted

Abbadons Surface Army = Varesh > Margonites > Kournans

The Shadow Army = Menzies > Shadow Army

Undead Army = Undead Lich > Undead Soldiers

The Sunspears = Kormir > Sunspear Troops

The Zaishan

Deldrimor Dwarves > King Jalis Ironhammer > Deldrimor Dwarves

Destroyers

Asura Norn and Charr

Now then: Considering the loyalties of each side: the Zaishen would ally with Sunspears. Therefore the 2 arguable most tactical groups are allied. There numbers are probably then about the same as the other groups, and their tactics better. The Deldrimor Dwarves would transform themselves thanks to their God. The Asura are already allied with the Dwarves and some Norn. Therefore I would say this would be the order:

Abbadon's Demons > Zaishen & Sunspears > Destroyers > Asura and Deldrimor > all other factions armies > All other Elona > all Tyria.
There ya go... bit rushed at the end

Oh and the Dragons Will PWN.

Yuhe Ji · Apr 11, 2008, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Well as it appears that most of our enemies came from Abaddon, his army would probably destroy everything else. I guess his army includes the Lich with the titans, Shiro with the Shiroken, Margonites, torment, etc. But if we include all the ingame skills and qualities, the Luxon and Kurzicks would be tied. Not even Spectral Agony can kill them. Those base defenders would just mow everything down with base defense.

GourangaPizza · Apr 11, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Don't know about victorious armies, but I do know that if Abaddon win, he will bring about new delicacies to the world. (E.g. Deep fried eyeballs, Eyeballs kabob, Pickled eyeballs with melted cheese)

Free Runner · Apr 11, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33

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Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji

Well as it appears that most of our enemies came from Abaddon, his army would probably destroy everything else. I guess his army includes the Lich with the destroyers, Shiro with the Shiroken, Margonites, torment, etc.

Yeah Surface Forces + Torment forces together would give Abaddon the win. He pretty much owns half of the most deadly forces in the game.

Konig Des Todes · Apr 12, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji

I guess his army includes the Lich with the destroyers, Shiro with the Shiroken, Margonites, torment, etc.

Uhhhh.... Me thinks you need to redo Prophecies. And don't forget Mallyx!

But Abaddon besically controls the main enemies of Prophecies, Factions, and Nightfall, only enemy armies he doesn't control are *from prophecies* the mursaat/white mantel, charr, forgotten; *from factions* Urgoz+wardens, Kanaxai+demons; *from nightfall*harpies/hekets, which are not even that big of a army as it is.

Also, there is the fact that Abaddon had an alliance with Dhuum and Menzies, so those 3 would be working together, and therefore would have a HUGE army if ever combined. Only thing that could stop them would be mursaat, but just send the Titans on them and bye bye.

Yuhe Ji · Apr 12, 2008, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

Uhhhh.... Me thinks you need to redo Prophecies.

I meant that since the lich controlled the titans, and Abaddon controlled the lich... the titans are sortta under Abaddon.

Konig Des Todes · Apr 12, 2008, 05:34 AM // 05:34

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Originally Posted by Yuhe Ji

I meant that since the lich controlled the titans, and Abaddon controlled the lich... the titans are sortta under Abaddon.

I know what you meant, but Titans are not Destroyers. Thats what I meant.

Maya Aimi · Apr 12, 2008, 06:34 AM // 06:34

The Norn will win because we all know Ursan pwned everything

Yuhe Ji · Apr 12, 2008, 06:34 AM // 06:34

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

I know what you meant, but Titans are not Destroyers. Thats what I meant.

Whoops, got it. Fixed

Konig Des Todes · Apr 12, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Maya Aimi

The Norn will win because we all know Ursan pwned everything

The problem with what you say is... Norn don't use Ursan Blessing. They use "Bear Form". There is a difference.

aleaf92 · Apr 12, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Prince Rurik and his valiant men. They are win.

matsif · Apr 13, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

prince rurik is a failure, just watch him in the missions...he fails so badly his dad won't even listen to him.

mursaat win because of spectral agony and no infusion on others.

if there was infusion, torment demons win because of call to the torment. they can just endlessly divide and create numbers greater than the other armies, while still being immensely powerful.

Mark Nevermiss · Apr 13, 2008, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Spectral Agony is strong, yes but only when targets have 500-700 hp.
Against titans its totally useless.
Against torment creatures it will only create "Call to the Torment" duplicates.
Against destroyers with their high health and Inner Fire supposedly now fixed, not to mention their high damage, it will fail too I expect.
Against Aataxes... well LOL
I expect it to fail against Awakened creatures as well.
Dinosaurs of all kinds will rip the Mursaat to shreds with Twisting Jaws.
Jotuns and other giants spamming Giant Stomp also have a fair chance of defeating the Mursaat.
I could probably name a few more.

Konig Des Todes · Apr 13, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by matsif

mursaat win because of spectral agony and no infusion on others.

if there was infusion, torment demons win because of call to the torment. they can just endlessly divide and create numbers greater than the other armies, while still being immensely powerful.

Reason why Torment Demons wouldn't win is down a bit.

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Originally Posted by Mark Nevermiss

Spectral Agony is strong, yes but only when targets have 500-700 hp.
Against titans its totally useless.
Against torment creatures it will only create "Call to the Torment" duplicates.
Against destroyers with their high health and Inner Fire supposedly now fixed, not to mention their high damage, it will fail too I expect.
Against Aataxes... well LOL
I expect it to fail against Awakened creatures as well.
Dinosaurs of all kinds will rip the Mursaat to shreds with Twisting Jaws.
Jotuns and other giants spamming Giant Stomp also have a fair chance of defeating the Mursaat.
I could probably name a few more.

Mursaat vs...
Titans=Titans
Torment Demons=Mursaat *torment demons take double dmg when using Call of Torment, thats 200 dmg per second and Call of Torment is used once lower then 50% health, ouch*
Destroyers=Mursaat or Tie *Inner Fire=+30 hp per sec, Spectal Agony=-100hp and -9 degen per second*
Aatxes=only Vengful Aatxes will stand a chance, but Mursaat are smart and will kill the leaders, killing the Aatxes.
Awakened*aka undead*=Mursaat
Dinosaurs=Mursaat *won't get close enough*
Jotuns=Mursaat *one giant stomp then dead*
Few more? Only ones are Titans and Junundu that will slaughter Mursaat, any others will only "stand a chance."

Artisan Archer · Apr 15, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

What about the skales?