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Shadowmere · Jan 18, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

was just thinking the other day, no one ingame seems to have any real theories on who built the Eye of the North, other than "it wasn't us". So what's your theory? Who built it? Was it the Forgotten? The Seers? The Gods themselves?

Sorry if I'm missing some really obvious explanation somewhere but I looked around a bit and couldn't find any answer.

Sirius-NZ · Jan 19, 2008, 11:42 AM // 11:42

An ancient, forgotten civilisation.

The Forgotten? Maybe. It would make some sense. It could have been one of their contemporaries though - perhaps a race we remember nothing about. (If there were such things, but the dragons weren't documented either.)

Guildmaster Cain · Jan 19, 2008, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Maybe its from a time before the gods. Basically, the Forgotten dont have a very ancient civilisation.

It could also be draconians, which we will see in GW2.

-Old 3FL- · Jan 20, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22

I'd guess maybe either the gods, or an ancient/extinct race.

mazey vorstagg · Jan 20, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07

the Draconian didn't exist before GW2, they are mutated Corsairs by the Undead Dragon or Orr.

Numa Pompilius · Jan 20, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

I'm guessing a dragon or possibly the Mursaat - they're the only ones which make shiny structures in Guild Wars. And the Mursaat generally make things purple. So my guess is on a dragon.

Here's another thing to ponder: Who built the ruins the Asura live in now?
Go to Vlox's Falls, and see the drawing of the warrior and the dragon that's plastered everywhere.

Eldin · Jan 21, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

My first theory is the Gods themselves. I personally don't know any other explanation for how the tapestries and scrying pool work - it would require some divine enchantment, or at least the magics of some other powerful race, for it to be capable of reading peoples' skills.

...or ANet can play the lazy card and say "the players set up the tapestries".

I think maybe the Mursaat as well, since, as Numa said, they DO build shiny things. Also, though, Gaile said the Mursaat will have some role in GW2 - perhaps the Mursaat and the EotN will be tied in for this purpose?

Also, how is it kept warm? Go to the Eye of the North ingame (the outpost, not the HoM) and look up. You may need to back up a bit, but that's a giant brazier.

I don't know how they get up there to light it either, or how all the big open spaces still protect the flame from the chilling winds.

HAX!

Tyla · Jan 21, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

The Forgotten, imo.
Who assisted you with ascension in Prophecies? The Forgotten. (Aswell as Turai Ossa, but i bet he was working with them

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Who assisted you in NF through the realm of torment? The Forgotten.

Etta · Jan 21, 2008, 12:17 PM // 12:17

My God! Have you lot learn nothing? When stuff like this happen in any RPG world.

A wizard did it!

Neriandal Freit · Jan 21, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by Etta

My God! Have you lot learn nothing? When stuff like this happen in any RPG world.

A wizard did it!

Ok fine, I admit I did...but I was bored and it wasn't all frosty at the time either!

I personally would lean towards the Gods. It was likely used in the original capturing and sleep of the Dragons and may be once again.

Accursed · Jan 21, 2008, 05:48 PM // 17:48

I'd say an extinct race built it A LONG time ago.

they build Eye of the North to 'watch' the God's every move.

the god's got scared and demolished the whole race and they some how forgot about the tower.

Damus · Jan 21, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Whoever built those huge statues in the deserts of elona and all that stuff--basically, the Forgotten.

super strokey · Jan 21, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Damus

Whoever built those huge statues in the deserts of elona and all that stuff--basically, the Forgotten.

Thats who i side on for sure as well but im honestly not sure. Its supposed to be ancient so that definately leads me to believe its either them or prehaps giants but the giants were too big or alteast I think so. Maybe a race from the time of the dragons? Maybe the eye is kinda like a seal for the dragons placed there by the gods and when we used it it broke the seal, like the ebon vanguard weakened it by being a place they werent supposed to and when we finally used teh scrying pool that was it and it broke the spell. One big plan by primordious all along and the great destroyer wasnt really there to awake teh dragons but was there to tempt us to the eye (i know doesnt really fit with the lore but its just a thought)

BenjZee · Jan 23, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

lol i wanna know how they built it, how did they get up that high aswell. must of been hard. how did they build half of the stuff in the game...magic is obvious answer. how do you build a res shrine?...lifes mysteries

funny how alot of people in the game dont have houses especially the main player. How where they born, no parents and all. Born as an adult aswell

Hyper Cutter · Jan 23, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by Damus

Whoever built those huge statues in the deserts of elona and all that stuff--basically, the Forgotten.

Why would the Forgotten build statues of humans?

I don't see why the people who tried to settle the desert (all of whom were just struggling to stay alive, apparently) wasted their time building giant statues either...

Konig Des Todes · Jan 24, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by SmithyBen

lol i wanna know how they built it, how did they get up that high aswell. must of been hard. how did they build half of the stuff in the game...magic is obvious answer. how do you build a res shrine?...lifes mysteries

funny how alot of people in the game dont have houses especially the main player. How where they born, no parents and all. Born as an adult aswell

1) I think rez shrines were only there to make the game fair for people who die a lot. 2)there are homeless people, and a lot of homes without "owners." 3) The main players do have parents, they just are not in the game, they also were not born as an adult, they just start in the game as an adult *and dont age for the sake of simplicity I guess*

Back to the topic, my guess would be that the Seer's race build it. I would disagree with it being built by the forgotten seeing how forgotten were in the desert(s) area*notice that the realm of torment's main connection to the world of Tyria is at the Desolation*. I also say that the mursaat couldnt of made it because they live(d) in the Tarnished Coast/Magumma Jungle area and their buildings are all purplish. A support for the Seer's race building it could be that the Seer is first met in the shiverpeaks(yes southern, not far, but still the shiverpeaks). If it wasnt the Seer's race that build this then my only guess could be another extint race we don't know about or the Gods themselves.

Syco Masato · Jan 24, 2008, 03:14 AM // 03:14

I think it was the Seer's race as well, mostly because you never ever hear of them again after Proph (I think? O.O) And, just like Azazel said, you meet them in the Shivs, sooo theres my two cents.

Neo Atomisk · Dec 04, 2008, 04:40 AM // 04:40

I'm fairly sure anet has stated the mursaat built it.

But with no further evidence, whoever made rata sum. which leads to the mursaat xD

Craywulf · Dec 04, 2008, 04:49 AM // 04:49

The forgotten seem like the logical culprits. This has got me thinking, how many current races/factions are there in Guild Wars?

Konig Des Todes · Dec 04, 2008, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Races? A lot. If you want to go with just sentient and semi-sentient races, then you can list it to around 20 or less.

Humans
Charr
Grawl
Dwarves
Tengu
Centaurs
Forgotten
Giants/Yeties/Jotun
Mursaat
Seers
Naga
Dredge
Harpies
Hekets
Norn
Asura
Soon to add Sylvari

This list does not add "off-shoot" races such as Titans, Druids, Afflicted, Wardens, and Undead.

And I'm sure I'm missing some.

I still go with Seers building the Eye of the North. The oldest races known are:
Seers
Mursaat
Forgotten
Charr
Dwarves

And we have seen all of their architecture except the Seers. So it rather fits (especially since it seems the Shiverpeaks was one of the places the Seers resided, at least for a while).

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Originally Posted by Neo Atomisk

I'm fairly sure anet has stated the mursaat built it.

But with no further evidence, whoever made rata sum. which leads to the mursaat xD

.... Source? I don't recall anyone saying the Mursaat built anything in EN. At least no ANet staff. Rata Sum, while being an... whatever it's called (brain fart ftl), does not lead to the Mursaat. It was more of a joke or coincidence imo (or furthering the whole Mursaat Rally along with the Lazarus quest chain).

If you want to say something like that, you need to find the source and link it. ^^