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Darkhorse · Jan 15, 2009, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Nope. Copyright issues there.

It reminds me of Arabic script, which reads right-to-left instead of left-to-right.

Konig Des Todes · Jan 15, 2009, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Darkhorse, I think you said the main thing we were overlooking. When Amantis did his coding, he was going left to right, not right to left.

I think we should try this again with right to left in mind.

The Real Avalon · Jan 15, 2009, 06:15 PM // 18:15

"and that is while the letters do translate to English characters, those characters will still look and sound like gibberish, because it IS gibberish. Well, at least it would be gibberish to us earthlings..."

-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibberish + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gobbledygook =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon_language ?

doubt it cause none of the characters resemble any of letters of the klingon alphabet, looked a bit but I think I'm getting pretty close

for others that want to check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kli_piqad.GIF

Free Runner · Jan 15, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33

I think draxynnic was right. They (or him depending on how many put it together) probably have an Asuran alphebet planned out for GW2 (them being a playable race merits a language in itself) and that was just a sample of it (meaning we cant make anything that makes sense out of it).

Or he could of been taking a jab at the whole Human-Asura relationship - us Humans wouldnt be able to understand the Asuran language because we're "stupid".

Konig Des Todes · Jan 15, 2009, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Real Avalon

-snip-

This is the Klingon language, no where does it resemble Asuran.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Or he could of been taking a jab at the whole Human-Asura relationship - us Humans wouldnt be able to understand the Asuran language because we're "stupid".

Personally, I think it is more along the lines of this, and what I said earlier - while it translates into english letters, it might not translate into english words, but a cipher.

Of course, draxynnic could be correct as well. However, due to Matthew italicizing the last bit (italic don't show in quotes because it's all italics >.< my bad) - "and uhhh....things of this nature. I don't want to waste any more of your valuable time. ;-)" - I think this is the "third hint" he was going to give us. Mainly the "things of this nature" - in my view, meaning things from the human viewpoint, which expands on the Human-Asura relationship. Not just the Asura thinking humans as stupid but the few things humans know of Asura - or more accurately, what we know of the Asura.

Meh, I'm rambling now... time to stop.

Scythe O F Glory · Jan 20, 2009, 12:35 AM // 00:35

""...gibberish to us earthlings and uhh...things of this nature"". I think that these non-earthlings are the Five Gods. Those gods gave a message to the Asura in the Path to Revelations quest, appearing to be written in their own language. Maybe this language is the same as the one written on the banners, and maybe we can decode it using the same cipher? I understand that the cipher is missing some letters, so if those letters could be used we might be able to find something that makes sense.

Ok I'm rambling too. Time to stop.

draxynnic · Jan 21, 2009, 01:40 AM // 01:40

The Path to Revelations is a fairly simple substitution cipher. It wouldn't matter if the signs were ciphered, since if the signs are simply in English with a different script, we'd be solving a cipher to match the letters with English letters in the first place.

The worst effect of a cipher is that we'd end up thinking a given letter is A when it is actually V and so on.

Raminus · Aug 31, 2009, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Ah, what happened? Was the banner translated at the end? The last post is in January, and I'm desperate to find out the conclusion to this fascinating attempt at cracking the code on Guild War's last unknown language!

Konig Des Todes · Aug 31, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

The banner wasn't translated. By Matt's hints, it'll be near impossible to fully translate. My/Amantis' attempts are supposedly close, but it hasn't been translated yet.

Feel free to work on it.

Ven Bloodblade · Sep 03, 2009, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amantis

Oddly I can get THE FORGE LEAD HER, THE LARGE ZEUS HER, FAR THEIR GROW ARE,
THE FORCE BEAM HER, THE FORGE SEND HER

Any one else remember how during the EN mish to go see oola, she has many miniature versions of the iron forge man scattered around? Idk, something about that, and the two lines, "The forge lead her" and "The forge send her" is clicking inside my head, but i don't know why....

Konig Des Todes · Jul 18, 2010, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Perhaps a clue into how to translate this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosts of Ascalon

They were written in asuran script but used an archaic dialect popular before the subterranean asura had been forced to the surface more than 250 years earlier. It was a half-mathematical, half-structured sentence, and the syntax would make a human scribe take to the bottle.

The main reason, I think, that we haven't gotten anywhere is because we're thinking the entire thing works the same.

Piippo · Jul 22, 2010, 11:01 AM // 11:01

Quote:

It was a half-mathematical, half-structured sentence, and the syntax would make a human scribe take to the bottle.

So it's like an equation...?

Konig Des Todes · Jul 22, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02

It's hard to say. It could be, it could also be that mathematical terms are used instead of normal sentence structures - such as mathematical logic symbols and structures (using u/n for and/or)

Frozen Ele · Jul 25, 2010, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Hate to go off topic, but while completing Iron Mines of Moladune mission and entering into the Mursaat stronghold to confront Markis, I found the signpost below. I have taken the time to look at decoded languages and other signposts, but can't find a similar language (I have not searched other areas with Mursaat to see if the language appears elsewhere).

I understand that there are languages out there that are untranslatable, but the language of the Mursaat (?) might provide tools that can be applied to decoding the Asuran language, or it could hold other meaning. Any thoughts?

(I was thinking the signpost might be a warning or "beware" sign)

shadowlurk16 · Jul 25, 2010, 02:11 PM // 14:11

In an above post, it stated that there is a mathematical twist to this language. The known symbols for basic arithmetic are / x - +...and I can see one of them inside the markings of the banner.

The top O has a division sign through it...I don't know how this would calculate into a translation, but it seems to be a good addition to the puzzle.

Konig Des Todes · Jul 26, 2010, 12:01 AM // 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozen Ele

Things.

That's from the Stone Summit. The area Markis is in is captured land. So as being Stone Summit, it would be a dwarven language.

However, in GW1, there are only 3 (though thanks to GW2 another is becoming plausible to decode) languages that can be translated, so unless they decided to make something of it for GW2, it won't have a translation.

And I don't see how another language (mursaat or dwarf) could help in decoding the asuran language.

RedStar · Jul 26, 2010, 10:45 AM // 10:45

Ø usually means "none" in math.

Did you guys try using the greek alphabet ?

Piippo · Jul 28, 2010, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedStar

Did you guys try using the greek alphabet ?

Well, one letter looks like gamma and if turned upside down it looks like lambda. They both have meanings in physics/mathematics but I don't see how they could be useful...