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Seri · Dec 13, 2008, 07:02 PM // 19:02

I agree that it does look translatable i recognize some of the runes, as they are norse (therefore i believe the signpost is in the norn language) I still don think thats the mysterious language, because the last 2 lines dont match with anything I know therefore I think its gibberish. It is important to define what short is though, it could be short to a town, short to a portal, putting it in quotations maybe a way of emphasising the ambigiousness of it :/

Shasgaliel · Dec 15, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by Scythe O F Glory

But those are already deciphered if you can read them...

They use the same runic writing as signposts in the post of Sir Cusfreak. So we have translations of some but not of all. We can try to match those which are given to those which are not. I am not sure if it leads to anywhere but why not to try?

Neo Atomisk · Dec 15, 2008, 04:13 PM // 16:13

Is there anything in the eye or HoM?
What about the tome of rubicon? I don't know where it is, but meh.
I'll check when I get home, damn geometry teacher not lettin me play gw.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 15, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Tome of Rubicon=Sorrow's Furnace quest. It has no writing on it.

Eye of the North, no.

Hall of Monuments, unintelligible writing.

Neo Atomisk · Dec 15, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Bleh meant to edit b4... iPod touch can be homo sometimes.
Basically we're down to the norn signposts and that asursn thing, correct?
But I have a feeling it will be a dwarven language.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 16, 2008, 12:18 AM // 00:18

... Those are just what we found so far. We have probably 60% of EN not observed well. with about 40% of that being possible duplicate areas.

razerbeak · Dec 17, 2008, 12:31 AM // 00:31

I havent been playing lately, but I thought It might be in the snowman layer, Unfortunately my memory played a trick on my and Hundar's journal and recipe are seperate props, the journal is just a book and although the recipe has writing on it, its too small/blurry to make anything out.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 18, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

New update on the Language:

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Originally Posted by Matthew Medina

Well, I've been watching the discussions on the various lore forums, and before I left for the holiday break, I wanted to throw a shout out (and add a couple of notes) to the fine detective work you guys are doing. First, I will save you all some pain by confirming that it is NOT the Norn runic marker that we are talking about. Those do appear in many places, and because of this they needed to be fairly generic, and so the text on those props is indeed generic as well; vaguely Norse runes that don't mean anything. Additionally, my use of the word "short" was meant to be a reference to one of our races. Lastly, you guys are doing a great job of keeping me honest because indeed the language does appear on more than just a single prop. I had forgotten that it was part of a set of assets, so I apologize greatly for the confusion. That's it for the hints for now, but if this is still a mystery come New Years, I will pop back on and drop one final hint. ;-)

Ok, so what we know now is:
-Not norn
-Belongs to a short race (i.e., Dwarven or Asuran)
-The language shows up more than once but may only be translatable on one(correct me if my interpretation is wrong)

As such, I believe that if it is Asuran, Scythe O F Glory and Free Runner found it:

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

Continuing this:

This is the Asuran Beacons text.

And this is the banner found in the same mission. The face at the bottom is a inactive golem.

Who wants to try to decode it now? Need to see if either of these are translatable, and what they translate into.

EDIT: I went into the area with these banners to get a better shot of them and I see a few things. First, there are four banners, but they are repeats of two specific banners. As shown here:

Second, some words in each banner repeats on the other side, as shown here:

Lastly, looking closely at the letters, this looks like a very fancy cursive. Not sanskrit or anything, I say this because some letters look a lot like a cursive "a" "y" "s" "e" and other wording.

If that is the case, then the "translation" is as follows:

However, that is gibberish, so if this is to be thought as the language, that is not the case. However, there are letters that reappear. I have marked them via numbers, shown here:

Out of boredom, and Amantis getting confused on one letter (not mentioned on here), I made a "color coded" picture of the letters:

In short, I was able to find nothing but gibberish, but if there is something to be found, what I found might help out.

Amantis · Dec 18, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

New update on the Language:

Ok, Ive done many cryptograms in my time, Ive translated Asuran letters into UNRELATED(read: substitute, may not look like the Asuran letter) Latin letters.
(see Konig's image for reference)

Banner on the left: O ZYA TALGKL YAL
Banner on right: ZYA JILSA PARK YAL

the letters with the ?'s are not the same, they are unknown. Meaning there was only one of said letter, it was too hard to make out, or it could be one of the letters already mentioned but we just cant tell.
Ignore the numbers beneath Konig's image when reading this post as they are irrelevant to this post and in fact contradictory.

Edit: I wasn't looking close enough it seems, I looked closer in game and saw that the first "K" in the RIGHT banner (ie. the backwards L looking thing) is slightly different than the other 2. So I'm making that a single letter for now

To make this easier to cryptogram solvers I'm also replacing the single letters with their own letter, instead of ?s
Oddly I can get THE FORGE LEAD HER, THE LARGE ZEUS HER, FAR THEIR GROW ARE,
THE FORCE BEAM HER, THE FORGE SEND HER out of the right banner. Too bad theres not another "a" symbol on the end of the right banner, we'd have this solved.

Shasgaliel · Dec 18, 2008, 04:06 PM // 16:06

For me it looks like a transformed Greek/Cyrillic alphabet. Then I would claim the letter looking as y is in fact g (gamma). Then the last word will look rather like "god", also the thing looking close to 5 resembles small cyrillic d and one marked by Azazel as 7 cyrillic g. I am not sure if it leads somewhere (2 different g's already).

tauntedflail · Dec 19, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

Guys dont forget about the massive floating upside down pyramids that can be found in the tarnished coast reigons. theres one near the exi of the tarnished haven. might be worth checking for runes.

Konig Des Todes · Dec 19, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

There are no runes on them. They are in Rata Sum, the Central Transfer Chamber, and other places.

I checked them.

LordScro · Dec 19, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40

There is a very good chance that those Asuran banners are it. But, just to be sure, has anyone done any searching in Sorrow's Furnace for any kind of text?

Konig Des Todes · Dec 19, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02

The text is in Eye of the North. Sorrow's Furnace is in Prophecies. It wouldn't be in Sorrow's Furnace.

Seri · Jan 02, 2009, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Based on the Asuran myth, and because asura are a creature of hindu mythology, I believe that that language is based on an Indian language, not hindi as that would be too obvious but maybe a lesser known one. I would look through them but I dont have time atm.

Konig Des Todes · Jan 13, 2009, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Update Notice from Matthew Medina:

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Originally Posted by Matthew's talk page

Sorry for the delay in getting to you guys...the weather up here was so crazy over the holidays that it required me to take some extra time off, which put me behind schedule at work, so lower priority things like providing a new hint for you guys here got pushed to the backburner. OK, but better late than never right? Well, first of all congratulations because it is indeed the Asuran banner that is translatable. There is a slight catch with this one (Amantis and Konig you guys are really quite close) and that is while the letters do translate to English characters, those characters will still look and sound like gibberish, because it IS gibberish. Well, at least it would be gibberish to us earthlings...and uhhh....things of this nature. I don't want to waste any more of your valuable time. ;-)

So close! So very close! By the last part, "gibberish to us earthlings" I suppose it means it relates to something that we wouldn't know yet, or it translates into a cipher like the "Path to Revelations" quest (might not be the same cipher).

Free Runner · Jan 13, 2009, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Wait so it was the G.O.L.E.M Banner or was it a different Asuran art piece?

Konig Des Todes · Jan 13, 2009, 11:42 PM // 23:42

It is the two banners found where the G.O.L.E.M. mission takes place.

draxynnic · Jan 13, 2009, 11:57 PM // 23:57

What it might mean is that they've devised an Asuran language as well as the script (or at least the Asuran words that convey the meaning of the sign) so that while the script resolves to English letters, the words themselves aren't English. With such a small sample size, we'd need some kind of Rosetta stone - such as the Asura putting up signs in other languages for the benefit of us bookahs - to be able to fully translate the language.

Kotetsu Rain · Jan 14, 2009, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Anyone else think it's a sci-fi language? Something from Star Wars or Star Trek?