Curse

Konig Des Todes · Dec 10, 2008, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Uhhh, Neo. It is known that Titans - which have 6 eyes - follow Abaddon, and the Orrian Undead were caused by Abaddon's tainted magic. Other things with 6 eyes would be the Jade Armors, which is believed to have connections to Abaddon but nothing proven, and I think the Enchanted Armors have 6 eyes as well.

While not everything with 6 eyes follow Abaddon, most of Abaddon's followers have 6 eyes, or have representations of that.

But I don't think that is what is meant because Dwayna's followers don't have wings *don't say paragons do, just don't*, Not all of Grenth's followers have skull masks, etc. etc.

Also, Dryders are followers of Dhuum (however, I believe, as stated in my thread which I believe is where you got that Neo, that Arachnia is the source of the Dryders).

Hyper Cutter · Dec 13, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

and I think the Enchanted Armors have 6 eyes as well.

I don't think they do.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jan 03, 2009, 04:46 AM // 04:46

IF the eye represents the gods and the Mursatt made the original shrines and worshiped the gods, and they eventually abandoned the gods and tried to hide them from humans then the name "The Unseen" makes sense, as in not seen by the gods, not worshiping them.

draxynnic · Jan 05, 2009, 03:03 AM // 03:03

The Unseen has already been explained. The Mursaat are able to hide themselves from sight - according to the game storyline, you have to be Ascended in order to be able to see them unless they choose to be seen (something that isn't actually represented in-game, as you can still fight the Mursaat normally if you bypass Ascension and get the Drok Run instead, but it is given as part of the reason the characters need to Ascend before they can fight the Mursaat), and they slay all but their most devoted worshippers that are allowed to see them. Thus they are Unseen for the simple reason that they do not allow themselves to be seen by mortals, not through any aspect of their relationships with the Old Gods.

sajuuk_khar · Sep 05, 2010, 08:16 PM // 20:16

Mod Edit: I removed the "first find" and merged the second find with this thread
Recently i found two things that connect to things found by many players a long time ago.

Secondly in another currently Archived thread called "The Five Gods, Abaddon's taste for eyes, and the Temples of Grenth and Balthazar." they discuss a image which appears on several places including the temple of Grenth and Balthazar and on some Mursaat places. I have found another one of these symbols. In the third level of the Cathedral of Flames Right near the entrance is a strange statue with this symbol

what the implications of this are i cant really say but it does lead to the fact that WHOEVER or whatever made the temples of Grenth and Balthazar had some had in the charr homelands which would mean they had a Tyria Continent wide stretch of existence. If anymore of these places with the eye exist i don't know but given the fact its on 3 separate locations from the Charr Homenalds to Lornar Pass to The Wilds we can see that the makers of these places had a great grasp in some bygone age.

agrios · Oct 20, 2010, 11:41 AM // 11:41

I believe Abby's eyes thing is a visual metaphor.

The eye is a symbol of knowledge. Its tru the vision the most of knowledge is passed on, mostly by books.

Since he has a lot of eyes, one for each god, he watches all and every realm and its inhabitants. Learning everything from it.

His taste for eyes? Since knowledge and secrets can increase one's power, the way to hinder one from obtaining them is to strip he/she of vision. When he "eats" their eyes, he also learns theirs secrets and absorbs their power, becoming stronger and preventing others to do so.

If I'm right in my theories, Abby was imprisoned because he was getting greedy and power hungry, and, given time, he would discover a way to overthrow all the gods. So, the five others joined forces and didn't let that happen.

Konig Des Todes · Oct 20, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29

We know why Abaddon was imprisoned. It came from the Taiwanese site which has been removed, luckily we got a fan-translation of it (though exact words used may be incorrect out of human error).

The exact fan-translation:

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Originally Posted by PanSola

I haven't been around much, so no clue if the English-speaking/reading community already learned of this. Anyways, the following is info from NCTaiwan (http://guildwars.nctaiwan.com/gameInfo/intro_03.asp):

(first three paragraphs are generic stuff about Elona that we already know about, so I didn't translate them. Starting from the fourth paragraph).

The nemisis of Campaign Three is the forgotten sixth god of creation - Abbadon. He and his five other brethens: Balthazar, Melandru, Dwayna, Lyssa, and Grenth created this world and the creatures. Abbadon's original job is to rule over knowledge and water, but soon he became everyone's abyss of pain and nightmare.

Abbadon originally represented the gods to give the precious magic to the sentinent races. But due to his limitless giving, it causes humans and the other races to abuse this gift. Thus, the other gods of creation attempted to use the bloodstone to split his power into four great elements, to suppress Abbadon's magic so it doesn't get abused. Abbadon's of course not happy, but the other 5 gods ignored his opposition. Angered, Abbadon gathered his strongest followers, the Margonites, to attack the weak spot of the Rift (not sure if this actually means The Rift, it literally said "world gap/rift/fissure" in Mandarin). He wanted to overthrow the gods and create his own dynasty. Abbadon was so powerful, even two gods together could not stop him. Finally, under the siege by the five gods, Abbadon was defeated and imprisioned, never to be involved in worldly matters again. The location of his battle with the five gods became known as the "Mouth of Torment" (literal translation: Torment's Mouth, not suer what official English will be).

After taking out Abbadon, the five gods also routed the Margonites. Additionally, they attempted to remove Abbadon's name from all monuments and holy scrolls, so that Abbadon will be forgotten by the people. (PanSola's note: eh, so how come there's still a LOCATION named Abbadon's Mouth???)

Nowadays, civilized nations only worship the Five gods, but a group of pagans secretely follow what they refer to as the Sixth god - a god who lost his power long ago. The pagans deeply believe this legend: thounds of years ago, their spiritual vanguard the Margonites had a sad but vailent battle in northern Elona, the power of the battle swept through the plains and turn it into a wasteland, which people nowadays know as the Crystal Desert. The Margonites back then used the power given by the sixth god to wreck hovac, destroy shrines, defile holy places, and killed everything in their path. Even though they had strong divine power to back them, the Margonites finally could not escape the fate of being destroyed. Legend says the sixth god finally is imprisioned in the Realm of Torment. Now some of the wise have noticed signs that says the fallen god might be returning to this world to wreck hovak again. Even though his name has been erased from all historical scrools and monuments, it isn't the end of the story. His loyal servents has been sharpening their blades, practicing their spells, preparing to welcome back the god that has been forgotten and abandoned. They continue to believe, just like night follows the day, He will eventually return to this world. The Margonites bring their will which obeys the great evil power, and paitently wait for the day of Nightfall.

agrios · Oct 20, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by Konig Des Todes

We know why Abaddon was imprisoned. It came from the Taiwanese site which has been removed, luckily we got a fan-translation of it (though exact words used may be incorrect out of human error).

The exact fan-translation:

Well.. I didnt know that. Thx for the info.

But I still think my theory of eating eyes suitable with the lore and domain of Abby.