Curse

goldjas · May 06, 2005, 06:58 AM // 06:58

So, I finally got to the last mission, noticed that there was basically no one around, and someone says you can do it with henchmen. Then one thing led to another, and well, I went and did just that!

I will say that this was by no means easy, I failed many times before finally winning, Henchmen are very stupid and one single mistake at any point in this long mission will cost you the entire thing.

Probably one of the more intimidating parts is when you see this!
(wasn't solo when i took that one, but keep in mind that there are about 5 billion enemies there until you clear it) I thought the portals to the major towns looked neat, and they look even neater close up (wasn't solo when i took that one etheir though, but just saying).

After that, comes the hardest part in the mission, and probably one of the hardest parts in any mission I've completed with henchman(some missions, namely murksaar ones, you can't do with henchmen, period. If you can, then I'd sure love to see it, heh). The battle with Undead Prince Rurik! This was hard because there were a ton of minions around the place that werent easy, I had to lure them out...only with henchmen, who love to rush straight into battle after getting hit just once, it was hard, actually, at first I thought I had lost, as they did just that, but for some reason the Sparks (which is just about the hardest enemy I've faced in just about every mission) decided not to attack until after I finished off the Fists of the Titans, so i was able to then clear the Sparks, then it took like 5 minutes of constant beat down to put down the prince, he has a lot of life.

After that, I was getting pretty excited. I came into the next room, and got even more excited! .

This was it, the final battle with the Undead Lich himself (what the heck kind of name is that for a final boss anyway!?) Anyhow, he actually wasn't as hard as I expected. First I pulled the Fists away from him and killed them, while i did that he summoned Temporal Distortions...I have no idea what they do, but they died in one hit and looked kinda neat. Then I went in for the kill .

He wasn't actually all that hard, although it kind of annoyed me that he disenchanted my enchantment. He seemed to have 3 lifebars for some reason, not sure why, but whenever you got him close to taking down a lifebar, he did the usual useless main bad guy gloating that we all know and love. What really surprised the hell out of me is when he teleported me in the middle of the lava, that took me by surprise for sure. But overrall I'd say he was a pretty tame foe compared to many in the game, and eventually I was successful . At this point, I was pretty ecstatic, but also kind of let down, because that was the end of the games awesome missions. Of course, it wouldn't be a proper ending in a volcano unless it all blew up . Anyway, I guess its time to do less missions and time to start collecting Elite skills, get my attribute point quests done, get some decent equipment (I had 2 runes of minor health, and a 6-28 axe with +1 to axe mastery 11% of the time, fear the uber loot), and maybe even start PVPing.

Antilles · May 16, 2005, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Haha, nicely done. My hat is off to you for doing that whole thing with npcs.

RizzleR · May 16, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30

yes indeed dit it with a very skilled team and we where having lots of problems getting to the lich, the lich is easy itself.
amazing job doing it with henchies

SOT · May 16, 2005, 09:12 AM // 09:12

Wow, I have a new hero to aspire to

Good job dude!

egads · May 16, 2005, 09:54 AM // 09:54

I managed to do it with henchmen too after two or three hours of trying. I was an E/Mo, and didn't have a chance of finding a party because I was playing on the American server at 10:00am GMT. I actually found the part with the portals the hardest, closely followed by the path up to the portals, with the battle with Undead Prince Rurik and the Undead Lich tying for easiest by far.

I had several wipeouts involving those imps (Spark of the Titans) even using Pyromancer armour, but it was manageable. The part with the portals was probably my biggest problem: after a couple of failed attempts of fighting the patrolling mobs in front of the portals head on, I had come up with a strategy involving running past them when they were at the other side straight down to behind the leftmost portal. I lost Reyna on the way, and as I passed the Portal Wraiths they each fired a nasty Chain Lightning in my face, and I was down straight away! Maybe I should have brought Aeromancer armour after all, or at least have used one of the Minor Vigor Runes I had found.

Anyway, I was very lucky indeed as my henchmen somehow managed to res me just before the patrol came back, allowing me to sprint down to the bottom out of range of the patrolling enemies, although I had to take down a pursuer or two. I think I had Stefan and Mhenlo still alive after that, but I had come equipped with Rebirth, so my party was up and running soon enough. After that it was not too hard, as I just took it slowly, first killing off the leftmost Portal Wraiths, then luring some of the patrol, then clearing out the mobs standing around and getting the second trio of Wraiths, and finally killing the stragglers and the third lot of Wraiths. Chain Lightning was as effective against them as it had been against me.

I found the rest very easy, at least relative to the difficulty of the previous parts, and from then on no one in the party died. I got quite lucky with luring the mobs away from Rurik, and he fell quickly on his own. After that the battle with the Undead Lich was simple enough. I constantly threw Lightning Orbs/Strikes at him thanks to Elemental Attunement and Air Attunement, and was fortunate enough never to be the one teleported into the Lava.

psychoraymond · May 16, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Rumor has it that the mission is actually easier with henchmen. I dunno, I still have 2 missions to go before I can test this rumor out.

Audrielle Laneil · May 16, 2005, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Cool, congrats to you! ^^

Jab · May 16, 2005, 06:53 PM // 18:53

very nice job.

Soul Monarch · May 16, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by psychoraymond

Rumor has it that the mission is actually easier with henchmen. I dunno, I still have 2 missions to go before I can test this rumor out.

I have noticed that several missions (i.e. Aurora Glade, among others) are considerably less difficult when using a hench party. I suspect that the game downgrades certain encounters in order to try and compensate for your all-AI parties.

Or is it just me?

Narcissus · May 16, 2005, 11:35 PM // 23:35

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Originally Posted by Soul Monarch

I have noticed that several missions (i.e. Aurora Glade, among others) are considerably less difficult when using a hench party. I suspect that the game downgrades certain encounters in order to try and compensate for your all-AI parties.

Or is it just me?

It's just you.

Antilles · May 17, 2005, 12:22 AM // 00:22

I was upset by the fact that Lich was a joke, even with his 3 lives. FUnniest thing during that misison is when he teled into the fire, and my char auto followed and died

. No one dared to rez me.

Canook · May 17, 2005, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Soul Monarch

I have noticed that several missions (i.e. Aurora Glade, among others) are considerably less difficult when using a hench party. I suspect that the game downgrades certain encounters in order to try and compensate for your all-AI parties.

Or is it just me?

it is just you. the game doesn't compensate for nothing. hench may be dumb, but theyre programmed to do something. and thats all they do. other people are idiots or make mistakes and do things they shouldnt do.

femto · May 17, 2005, 01:53 AM // 01:53

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Originally Posted by goldjas

(I had 2 runes of minor health, and a 6-28 axe with +1 to axe mastery 11% of the time, fear the uber loot), and maybe even start PVPing.

I think you can only use one of each type of rune at a time, so really you were only using 1 minor vigor

femto · May 17, 2005, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by egads

I constantly threw Lightning Orbs/Strikes at him thanks to Elemental Attunement and Air Attunement,

dude, where did you find Elemental Attunement?? I didn't even know that existed until you just said that. Man, I sure wish I had that + air attunement while fighting some of the bosses on this damned fire island

egads · May 17, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40

There's a topic to help with things like that.

It's available to capture from Geckokaru Earthwind, a drake boss, who is in Perdition Rock (the explorable area between Ember Light Camp and the Ring of Fire).

goldjas · May 17, 2005, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by femto

I think you can only use one of each type of rune at a time, so really you were only using 1 minor vigor

I had 2, one on one piece of armor, one on another

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Tikoko Delight · May 17, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

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Originally Posted by Canook

it is just you. the game doesn't compensate for nothing. hench may be dumb, but theyre programmed to do something. and thats all they do. other people are idiots or make mistakes and do things they shouldnt do.

the henchmen are actually quite capable.. came across two level 22 (i think) hydras and one atleast level 25 boss hydra, they killed me in maybe 10 seconds and wiped half of my henchmen team.. but the healer, cultist and fighter henchmen managed to kill all 3 while ressurecting everyone slowly.. it was pretty interesting to see (and i think they actually handle themselves better when i'm not directing them... not sure what that says about my skills)

CaseyDDR · May 17, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

I've always thought the henchmen to be pretty useful.

femto · May 17, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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Originally Posted by goldjas

I had 2, one on one piece of armor, one on another

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yeah, I know. I did the same thing before and had to learn the hard way that equipping two of the same rune does not work.

check this out

Hell Marauder · May 20, 2005, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Comparing to human players, henchmen have one huge advantage: they don't suffer death penalty like human players do. So they can die over and over and after rez, fresh as new. But you have to be a monk in either primary or secondary profession to be able to really take advantage of them, though, because you need to rez them over and over and over....until job is done.