Curse

zeuseden · Oct 16, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13

damn it... now with all these 5 man builds...

nobody fc*king wants a ranger... they want minion masters tanks
monks and nukers but not rangers.....

if theres any guild wars dev. reading this... pls make us abit more powerful.
i feel so third world. damn it

Ray · Oct 16, 2005, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Nobody wants mesmers either, so I just play on my monk.

Actually, about these 5-man farming thing.. I get more 'green drops' with full teams than with any 5-man team.
So that 5-man farm thing isn't the thing for me o_O;;

lishi · Oct 16, 2005, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by Ray

Nobody wants mesmers either, so I just play on my monk.

Actually, about these 5-man farming thing.. I get more 'green drops' with full teams than with any 5-man team.
So that 5-man farm thing isn't the thing for me o_O;;

well actually sometime i look for mesmer for 4/5 farming group

but normaly
1) no one is avaible

2) the avaible wont adapt its build

Tactical-Dillusions · Oct 16, 2005, 02:43 AM // 02:43

I feel your pain OP. We can stand there for hours and still not get a group.

The saddest thing is, knowing that you can make a massive contribution and make things a hell of alot easier.
On one hand we can get mad that they haven't chosen a ranger, or we can be happy in the thought of them struggling without us.

Personally, i would rather PUG with henchies. They always listen, always follow, always carry a res signet, always refrain from aggro for the sake of a chest, never disconnect, never kick you for being a ranger...the list goes on.

I am one step from having Lina tattood on my arm, next to my girlfriends name.

Savio · Oct 16, 2005, 02:54 AM // 02:54

After a terrible night in which not a single random person my group picked up listened, I decided to screw PUGs. I only team with friends, friends of friends, and GWG people now.

dbrad · Oct 16, 2005, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Try playing an ele who isn't a nuker. I explain my warder build to any group before setting out, and as I'm playing with PUGs, I still get get people yelling at me to "nuke now!" Guess what? I'm not there for damage. I'm there to help make sure you don't die. With a decent warder, a Greater Conflag ranger, and a group that listens, deaths are rare indeed. But nobody cares about anything but cookie cutter echo nuker builds in ele, and nobody cares about rangers at all.

Savio · Oct 16, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Heh...I have a couple of friends who are earth ele and water ele. They pwn, except for the earth ele who tries to solo too much.

unienaule · Oct 16, 2005, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Hey, that is totally unfounded. I have been a healing el/mo who maintains enchants with prodigy for our other monk's symbiosis for a while now.

conker · Oct 16, 2005, 04:16 AM // 04:16

People actually goto sorrows furnace still? lol didnt know.... last time i heard someone going there was like a week after it came out

Savio · Oct 16, 2005, 04:21 AM // 04:21

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Originally Posted by conker

People actually goto sorrows furnace still? lol didnt know.... last time i heard someone going there was like a week after it came out

Um, where have you been PvE-wise?

Carinae · Oct 16, 2005, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray

Actually, about these 5-man farming thing.. I get more 'green drops' with full teams than with any 5-man team.

Seems to be true.

Savio · Oct 16, 2005, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Seems to be true.

From my perspective, no. I'm not the one with bows dropping everywhere...

zeuseden · Oct 16, 2005, 03:17 PM // 15:17

blah ...i decide to try it out with henchies tonite. screw it. >.<
wish me luck on green bows!

FFF_WarRaven · Oct 16, 2005, 04:19 PM // 16:19

well for me, i have yet to get any green drops with henchies of any number, i like to use a necro MM, but let me tell you, i have spent hours trying to get into groups, so i dunno where you get that ppl always want to take a necro, i have always had to struggle to get anyone to take necros even my own guildmates...and for several different necro builds too, so i feel your pain.

I'm also tired of hearing...no were are FA Farming...there's more bosses if you do not take the dam FA quest and you can use the gear to replace the keg trick, and you can still get into the furnace without the kegs.

:::End Transmission:::

TomD22 · Oct 16, 2005, 05:11 PM // 17:11

When i make a 4 man team, i go for 1 warrior, 1 ranger, 1 ele, and of course 1 monk. The warrior tanks, the monk keeps him alive. The ranger is there for pulling, and then to interrupt or just deal damage. Ele obviously main damage dealer. It's simple, but it works, provided the warrior and monk are up to it.

TwinRaven · Oct 16, 2005, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I run a blood necro and get constant requests to switch to a minion master built....no. I play the way I want and if i can't find a group within 5 min, I go with a group of henchies...the full compliment of an 8-man party. I get plenty of good drops and don't have to deal with annoying 12-year-olds barking orders at me in 1337-speak.

I tend to play with henchies a lot these days...they do stupid things too (just like real folk) but they listen attentively to your criticism and never answer with "stfu you noob".

As for the Ranger issue...my first character is a ranger and I haven't played it much for the last month. I "finished" the game and moved on to necros...you will ALWAYS have people who are prejudiced based on their preconceived notions of what make good characters, but it has been my experience that this is truely a well-balanced game (based on the numbers of gripes that characters aren't powerful enough)...I've run several characters through the land of Tyria, and all I can say is that each one had its challenges and boons...running a smiting monks to Lions gate doing double damage...VERY cool...trapping the UW with only 4/5 ranger teams....VERY cool....

It comes to the fun coming from you and the way you play more than other players and your expectations of them...go run with henchies and quit waiting for narrow-minded folks to let you "tag along"...ultimately, with henchies, YOU are the boss and they follow you without question...If you pull a "Leroy Jenkins", no one will flame you for it...You will develop your own strategies that, when you play with "real" folks, will make you a better player

knives · Oct 16, 2005, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Funny how necros aren't wanted in Uw/Fow, but are in Sorrows.
Funny how rangers are wanted in Uw/Fow, but aren't in Sorrows.

Thats what we call equilibrium.

Mistress Develion · Oct 16, 2005, 06:23 PM // 18:23

I find that rangers are asked.. alot for SF runs.. As a ranger i also found it easier to say to hell with PC's grab 2 henchy mnks and 2 henchy warriors and farm on your own. Works just fine for me.. I clear the mine and about 1/3 of sorrows before i die.. the first time. Can usually clear a major chunk of sorrows with under 3 deaths.

I run a R/me
Illusion Majik-6
Inspiration majic-5
Expertise-8
Wilderness survival-7
Marksmanship-16

Poison arrow (or Milandru's arrow) elite
Kindle arrow
Dual shot
Conjure Phantasm
Troll Ungent
Phantom Pain
Energy Tap
Rez signet

Tainted Poon · Oct 16, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37

All you need is a 3 man team: tank,nuker,monk. I play the tank because its the easiest hehe

knives · Oct 16, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48

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Originally Posted by Tainted Poon

All you need is a 3 man team: tank,nuker,monk. I play the tank because its the easiest hehe

The thoughts of every other person in GW that can't get past teh tank, nuker, monk combo is proof that no one wants the other 3 classes in gw.