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D E A D S Y · Nov 18, 2005, 07:38 PM // 19:38

Rangers are so useful. I think it's sad =\

Daijdjan · Nov 18, 2005, 10:26 PM // 22:26

Hmm, we (a monk pair) were looking for a spiker for damage and someone misunderstood and got his ranger. Well, he was a better damage dealer than our Nuker

So, next time we go farming, we will try a setup with two rangers and a interupt-mesmer for the monk bosses.

master_ranger_matt · Nov 19, 2005, 12:27 AM // 00:27

This is sad. Just start your own group, that's what I do. rangers are good especially in Sorrows Furnace because of the variation in elevation.

Holy Arch · Nov 19, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

people think they suck...

quanzong · Nov 19, 2005, 01:10 AM // 01:10

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

Savio · Nov 19, 2005, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

You're pretty much inviting flames, but since someone's bound to reply with the correct answer I'm letting this stay for now. However, I will warn you not to say "(insert name here) sucks" again because that is pretty much flamebait, and I will delete the next post I see starting out like that.

Keep replies/flames to a minimum, please.

TadaceAce · Nov 19, 2005, 01:48 AM // 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daijdjan

Hmm, we (a monk pair) were looking for a spiker for damage and someone misunderstood and got his ranger. Well, he was a better damage dealer than our Nuker

So, next time we go farming, we will try a setup with two rangers and a interupt-mesmer for the monk bosses.

Define a nuker, as if eles were bad enough now they nerfed AE fire damage and they just officially suck. Hell an attunement air ele is probably your best choice now and they do about as much damage as half ... warrior to armored targets of SF.

TadaceAce · Nov 19, 2005, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

Ever done GvG? I mean obviously your talking about pve but rangers underpowered?

Trappers are just amazing in balanced group. Ranger spike is just amazing... Ranger interupts are just flat out stupidly overpowered... Rangers make far and away the best runners... hell if anything rangers are overpowered.

And hydras are only noted as good because there are always dumb enough people in the group to stand in the hydras' one time only meteor shower, I guess your one of them.

Shwitz · Nov 19, 2005, 01:58 AM // 01:58

quanzong: Just a point of interest, the only other class with access to poison is the necromancer, so when you said "other classes can do that" in reference to poisoning, its not exactly true. Necromancers have a few spells that cause poison (or disease), but not many take them. Rangers with apply poison or poison arrow are much more common.

It is sad that rangers don't get more love for most areas in general. Concussion shot causes hell for caster mobs, they have more consistent interrupt skills than a mesmer (mes interrupts have long-ish recharges), they can inflict poison with ease, and with the new AI, their crippling abilities might be of use (Pin down, Crippling shot, Barbed trap, Spike trap). If a group doesn't want my ranger, there's a good chance I don't want to be with that group anyway, since they don't realize my usefulness. I think that a trapper, AoE elemenatlist, stance warrior, and 2 monks might do nicely together for a 5 man farm team. Have the ranger trap a spot, have the warrior draw the enemies to the traps, and then drop some AoE spells on 'em. The traps will slow them down, keep them in place for the elementalist to do his/her job, and the ranger might even equip Pin down and Epidemic to keep them all crippled once the trap effects wear off. Just my thoughts...

sybban · Nov 19, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59

I think it's just the fact that most people who ranger suck, because rangers in fact don't suck. I used to think they were crappy until a ranger ran circles around my warrior pinging him to death. This was very long ago, so that just goes to show no class sucks. Just the people who play them

Bel Ebih · Nov 19, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

Heh, well my Ranger, as well as many others, can solo those Hydras with ease, while apparently you get owned on sight.

If you've never played a Ranger, or haven't been smart enough to play the role right, then keep your ignorant opinions to yourself until you do.

master_ranger_matt · Nov 19, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

Don't flame rangers please. they are probably the most versatile class around, and will pwn u so shut it.

JMFD · Nov 19, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42

A well-played ranger is a great asset to a team, and I somtimes take a ranger instead of an ele into sorrows, though pre-aoe nerf I never did.

Why? Eles did better damage, and were easier to play. Majority of folks out there aren't amazing players, and with mediocre players being able to do damage effectively, why rish a ranger when if played by a mediocre player, they were worthless?

Now, I pick whichever I find first for the "spiker/interupter" and take a minion master along for the 5th

IllusiveMind · Nov 19, 2005, 03:15 AM // 03:15

Quote:

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

Instant +60 dmg barrage spamage?
My cousin makes me get mad sometimes, as i get ready preparing my glymphs or any other enchancement, he can spam Barrage and mow down a mob in a few seconds, so, i don't think that rangers suck sir.

EagleEye33 · Nov 19, 2005, 05:22 AM // 05:22

no profession sucks, they all can do enough dmg. This game is supposed to be about skill. You just prob had some bad luck with players. I dont think I need to go on, it looks like you've been ripped enough already on your completely wrong opinion

2_fingers · Nov 19, 2005, 08:41 AM // 08:41

I am willing to bet quanzong has never faced a ranger spike team. Who needs 3 hydras to own u if 3 rangers would? Hell even 1 ranger can be such a nuisance, u wouldn't be able to do anything.

I think pretty much everyone has flamed the joker who claimed rangers suck. Coming back to the discussion, if u want to create an unconventional build, (and i mean unconventional as something which 90% of the populace don't know about), make ur own group.

I do not include rangers because, i do not require them in the build i usually run. I know their full potential, just that i choose not to include them (because a curse necro works better with a mm).

Frost · Nov 19, 2005, 08:58 AM // 08:58

Well, imo rangers just don't do as well in pve compare to necros and nukers.
There are few hundred or thousands of players running SF each day, if rangers are as good, why are thousands of players neglecting them... unless you are saying thousand of players are no good...

However in pvp, rangers kick arse, they're versatile and high dmg dealers, however we must draw a line between pve n pvp. Good Pve doesn't means good pvp and same goes the other way round.

Naggykristin · Nov 19, 2005, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Ok, I'll say it. There are thousands of players that are no good. A Ranger is heck of a lot better in most situations than any other class, save mesmer. Let's see... a ranger can tank with their pet, heal others, heal themselves, interrupt casters, and quickly deal significant damage AND deal this damage to more than 1 enemy at a time.

A guild member of mine uses his ranger in SF most of the times we go into SF and I wouldn't trade him for any type of ele or necro. In the desert we duo as rangers and we rarely have a problem with anything that comes our way and that includes large mobs of hydra without a sweat. Show me two eles that can traverse the desert alone without dying.

Frost · Nov 19, 2005, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Rangers get together and form a 5-man SF spike team !

jenna mysti · Nov 19, 2005, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

rangers suck, they dont do enough damage, its hard for them to 1-1 a mob at there lvl. they just good at healing self, area auras, and watching the pet die. The only thing good about them is poisoning the enemy, but other classes can do that also. However, elementalist, they do MASSIVE damage, why do you think a group of 3 hydras own you on sight? Meteor with 90+ dmg?
That is just MY OPINION to your question why rangers are never picked to do farm runs. I would not invite a ranger to do farm run with me.

Hmm, its sad we have people liek this playing, but i guess obviously he hasnt played ranger

PS nicely said shwitz