Curse

saphir · Jan 25, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunsu Pyro

Team-wipe? Never had one. I ALWAYS tell my team when we are forming it that i have no rez, i need my spells and i ain't giving them up. They are fine with it, they say not a problem.

Anyway, i've done around 9 runs (not alot i know) but i have NEVER died in those 9 runs.

I honestly don't understand that logic.
If you NEVER die, then that is the whole reason you SHOULD be packing a res as you are most likely to survive in the party.

On my old in the old uw e/r i always survived w/ dodge and troll ungent and i always brought a res sig because i would usually be the only survivor in a wipe.

same reason i bring a stack of candy canes to the new uw on my monk, and they're not for me =)

Star Gazer · Jan 25, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

yall tore him a new one on this...perhaps people will actually start thinking about builds before thinking they know everything about it

Pan Sola · Jan 25, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

Yeah, the only person who have an excuse to NOT bring a res sig is the person who always dies...

Anyways here's my pure-healing monk build that has survived 5-man runs:
* Orison
* Kiss
* Touch (self-heal)
* Vig Spirit (all-purpose cover enchant, semi-spammable 5-energy heal)
* Divine Spirit (back up energy management)
* Peace and Harmony (primary energy management)
* Divine Boon
* Rebirth

16 healing, 15 divine

With another monk (which can be boon prot, full bond, or healer), my build works fairly well with 2.5 (vig spirit count as a half) spammable 5-energy heals and no energy problems most of the time.

I use a 11% chance healing recharge rod from presearing and a 20/20 healing focus.

The 5-man team uses MM + SS, no echo nuker.

lishi · Jan 26, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

emhh your experiecend build seem have a lot of flaws ...

anyway monking looking like become cheap with all those battery necro...

magnusmu · Jan 26, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

[QUOTE='ChoKILLate[FDG]']The only big error I see is having the necro a MM. If you want the warrior to get all agro, a MM will be too sloppy and the minions will eventually lead the creatures to your healers and casters.]

Having one of my characters as MM I tend to have a different perspective, and those that have played with me in under 2 hour wipes will agree. I've never lead anybody back to the healers and casters. Sure sometimes the minions will run ahead (mostly at my will), but people in party should know better not to follow unless my army is in the 20s and not against dryders.

I typically stand guard next to everyone but the designated tank with my 15 fiends, and a few sacrificial bombers that go in to do 105 damage AoE each.

If any aggro gets through the warriors, my fiends make target practice out of them. And if they managed to kill the leading ones with death nova, they themselves are killed. When up against dryders, I know not to send my minions in until after the meteor showers begin so I hang back till they've been cast and then send the army in.

If anything, my minions often act as a wall/barrier which they do not or are not able to get through. As long as the casters remain next to me, or behind my army still within casting range of the main aggro tank, there have been no issues. Even on a retreat, the minions take the fall while the rest of us run away while also doing a Death nova number on them.

With that said, I have all classes available and I regularly switch it up. One thing I don't do is Protection monk - I have the best guild officer that handles that.

I agree on the Rez signet thing. Always bring one because you never know...

Messner · Jan 26, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

I've got an awesome Mo/N build all you need is to run 8 elites at once.
Healing Hands
Word of Healing
Mark of Protection
Spellbreaker
Offering of Blood
Blood is Power
Shield of Regeneration
Peace and Harmony for better energy upkeep

Xx Devour Xx · Jan 29, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

^^rofl if only we could have 8 elites....

Big_Iron · Jan 29, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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I agree on the Rez signet thing. Always bring one because you never know...

Yeah, you need rez. It sucks to be last man standing and have to declare you don't have it. Game over. I've been there and will never leave home without it again.

Rha Carnak · Feb 01, 2006, 09:59 PM // 21:59

U nubs,

Just run my uber 8 cap sig spike!!

Siren Danica · Feb 02, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

[QUOTE=magnusmu]

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoKILLate[FDG]

The only big error I see is having the necro a MM. If you want the warrior to get all agro, a MM will be too sloppy and the minions will eventually lead the creatures to your healers and casters.]

Having one of my characters as MM I tend to have a different perspective, and those that have played with me in under 2 hour wipes will agree. I've never lead anybody back to the healers and casters. Sure sometimes the minions will run ahead (mostly at my will), but people in party should know better not to follow unless my army is in the 20s and not against dryders.

I typically stand guard next to everyone but the designated tank with my 15 fiends, and a few sacrificial bombers that go in to do 105 damage AoE each.
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Is it possible to get an army of 15-20+ using his build with BiP?

I have always had energy issues, especially with the 25 energy rqmts of Fiends, so I always use Offering of Blood as the elite. Is that what you use to get your army?