Curse

Racthoh · Apr 16, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Sure, people have cleared the Fissure of Woe time and time again... gone in with smaller and smaller groups, tweaked builds countless times to get things as efficient as possible to kill everything as quickly as possible.

But... just how quickly? Well, here is the challenge I propose that I doubt could probably ever be achieved even with a full group of 8 (but please, prove me wrong).

Kill as many enemies as possible... with a single scroll of berserker's insight. The one that provides a 300% boost of experience, provided you kill an enemy every 30 seconds. Not limiting it to the size of the group, hold the book for aggro if you want, I could care less. The only rule is that the scroll must not expire. Keep track of the number of enemies you kill, or simply compare your experience total to when you entered to when you stop, and post it.

I think this would be rather difficult given a few factors. Firstly, you will need a path that will allow you to jump from mob to mob without much delay. Not only that, but if any of your builds are too energy dependant you will not have much time to rest which could cause a slowdown.

So, any opinions on the feasibility of this... and if not, good luck.

cerb · Apr 16, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

I have the best idea ever for this. I'm gonna start a blood spike group.

Murder In China · Apr 16, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51

I think someone that farms the Spider Cave will win this.

General Typhus · Apr 16, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24

I liek this idea, a split group would be in order though I'd think. One warrior runs off to the beach, a ranger to the forest, and a group of 6 heads through the shadows etc. I'd start a guild group immediately for this, but err...ban't. The warrior and ranger can time their kills so that when the group is interloping between mobs, they will kill an enemy or two. (if this is within reason) :0

Tigers Anger · Apr 16, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

I guess you could have a solo'er of each sort to first run to all their required locations, turn on the scroll, then speak on a chat program and get them to time their kills eg. take a monster down to very low health then kill it once about 20 seconds since last kill has happened. Would be very hard to co-ordinate imo, wish there was an in-game timer.

tuna-fish_sushi · Apr 16, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05

hehe yeah start with a w/mes at start of cave
r/mes at the start of forest
mabye 2 55 necros to solo shadows
and probably 4 smiter monks just go and own the skeletons
all on vent/ts would be very hard prolly just say a word when they kill a monster to know when the 30 seconds is renewed

General Typhus · Apr 16, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi

hehe yeah start with a w/mes at start of cave
r/mes at the start of forest
mabye 2 55 necros to solo shadows
and probably 4 smiter monks just go and own the skeletons
all on vent/ts would be very hard prolly just say a word when they kill a monster to know when the 30 seconds is renewed

I think the main body of 6 would work the best in truth. 55 necros are tricky to run, and shadow mesmers can be very nasty if you dont keep your enchants covered.

LoKi Foxfire · Apr 16, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

I'm still wanting to see a build (non-55 of course) that can solo all of FoW by itself... now that would be interesting. :]

Tigers Anger · Apr 16, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

It would have to be a warrior build, and the warriors name would have to be Racthoh Demini lol :P

Anarion Silverhand · Apr 16, 2006, 03:56 PM // 15:56

Good luck on beating the 2-monk groups as a warrior..

Kcp · Apr 16, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

I uploaded the first quest walkthrough for FoW early this week. Total run time was 36 minutes to take out 63 shadows to clear path for rastigan and kill shadow lord and his abyssal guards. That averages out to almost a kill every 30 seconds , but the problem is the groups usually drop all at once.

Now if there was a competent solo warrior, ranger doing there runs along with a competent solo necro to fill in the gaps. I think you could clear quite a bit with the scroll. The necro can easily take out most of the skeletons as well ( - the 2 ether breaker, 3 icehand guard units,)and clear the shadow army on other end of spider tunnel, the multi abyssal, shadow mesmer groups are a no go for the necro towards the tower of strength. Necro can kill spiders too, but the constant savage shot spam makes it tricky.

Maybe the warrior tanking the large abyssal shadow mesmer groups around tower of strength while the necro kills could keep the killing going steadily( if the warrior can self heal and stay alive.)

It's doable, but like mentioned earlier voice chat would probably be a must, and experience doing your part with a group soloing is a major factor as well.

One problem I see is that with all these "soloers" running to their areas they trigger patrol movements of the shadow army into the solo necro's area. It could slow the necro down since the patrols will not be in their normal areas and able to be combined for mass killing in larger groups.

Racthoh · Apr 16, 2006, 04:32 PM // 16:32

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Originally Posted by Kcp

I uploaded the first quest walkthrough for FoW early this week. Total run time was 36 minutes to take out 63 shadows to clear path for rastigan and kill shadow lord and his abyssal guards. That averages out to almost a kill every 30 seconds , but the problem is the groups usually drop all at once.

How much of that time was spent chatting, planning strategy, or waiting for patrols though?

Kcp · Apr 16, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Alot of time was spent setting casters up side by side, waiting on patrols and the run for rastigan to get to tower, stuff like that racthoh. So basically ya you're not constantly spamming SS on everything. It requires the proper set up for aoe before you go in for the kills. This is where your teammates would have to fill in the gaps

*edit BTW the video is a solo necro, so I was all by my lonesome.

Ira Blinks · Apr 16, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

I think it would be either book tank pulling stuff around from as many places as possible and nuking them or long and tedious pulling few mobs around for killing every 30 seconds...
Heres an example of killing pretty much everything around tower of courage in one go.

Soul Torn · Apr 18, 2006, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Hey I like this idea! Splitting parties is not something I see very often even though it can be pretty effective at certain times. I think im gonna go try this, if I do I will post how far we get

Gli · Apr 18, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by Tigers Anger

I guess you could have a solo'er of each sort to first run to all their required locations, turn on the scroll, then speak on a chat program and get them to time their kills eg. take a monster down to very low health then kill it once about 20 seconds since last kill has happened. Would be very hard to co-ordinate imo, wish there was an in-game timer.

There is a timer, I think. The scroll's effect marker does the 'almost timed out' flash if I remember correctly.

Solberg the Exiled · Apr 20, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

An intresting idea indeed. I would believe that with a good group of 8, (and some luck.... a lot of luck for that matter) FoW can be mostly cleared under 1 scroll effect.

A split is quite intersting, since a specific build can clear most of an area. Although actually putting together a gruop might be quite time consuming.

lagrand1 · Apr 20, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

great idea. At first thought, I thought, no way, but really, have 2 groups. One 5 or 6 man book team, other 2 rangers. Stay together until get to the rear forest entrance. Split up there. Rangers go into forest while other book group team does forge, cave beach. Rangers finish forest when other team does shadow groups in back of forge, meet up in cave, after cave done, rangers go to entrance to lava by plains entrance, and kill off some of the wind riders(can't remember name). After they finish a few, other team will have killed of 4 monk group, and join for main assault to that area.

Could work.
Maybe.

sh4ft3d · Apr 20, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

If someone could do this, I think they deserve a medal. Of gold. From Anet. 300 pounds heavy. Seriously

SnipiousMax · Apr 22, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25

What is the range of the scroll?