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Parn · May 08, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I have done Both sides to farm Faction Kurtz and Luxons.
It is sooooo much easier to farm faction at Altrum Ruins then it is in the
Luxons Zos shivos.

At Altrum Ruins,I killed 30 monsters. With my 55 and henches and got 176 faction and gold. Didn't have to defend anyone. Was never rushed but HUGE waves of creatures. Tons of people Spamming "X LF FF group" I was a monk for a few of these missions to see how it was....Wow didn't have to defend ANYONE...all I had to do was kill a small group move to the next small group. Then after that just portal hop and do it again. Got any EASY 715 faction. Which is about the same as winning 12 on 12 and almost quicker sometimes.

At Luxons Zos Shivos I had a team of 6/w henchies & people and killed 20 or something like that and got 17 faction and 6 gold.. Had to defend a stupid priest who wants to die and prove it by dancing at the begining of the mission.
Then stand on this lil mound cause he won't move even when attacked. Where we are overwhelmed by armies of creatures all blasting the same area. Attacking from both sides of this lil mound with archers/spirits and melee.

Sure some of you say why not do 12 on 12..Because your not always going to win because of people quitting..Farming faction in Altrum Ruins is quicker and gaurenteed most times.

fiery · May 08, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

I think your math is wrong?

30= 176 faction
20= 17 faction

Unless Luxon are really crappy on giving out faction.

As for 12 vs 12 the people you kill and in the end win or lose you still get more faction.

Rathcail · May 08, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by fiery

Unless Luxon are really crappy on giving out faction.

That was the point.

kovey00 · May 08, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07

If you really want to faction farm, why don't you just do the repeatable PVE faction quests that give you 400 faction a pop? It only takes about 10 minutes with henchies if that for one run, and they are simple. I usually just do the jade arena quest where you have to kill the luxon criminals. Not sure which one is repeatable on the kurzick side, but I know there are a couple on the luxon side. Alot easier and tons faster than doing pvp competitive missions for a lousy 17 faction for 20 minutes work or more.

Senator Tom · May 08, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

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Originally Posted by fiery

I think your math is wrong?

30= 176 faction
20= 17 faction

Unless Luxon are really crappy on giving out faction.

As for 12 vs 12 the people you kill and in the end win or lose you still get more faction.

30-20=10
17*10=170 woooo

SnipiousMax · May 08, 2006, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Aren't the repeatable quests faster than these missions for farming faction?

ginnstudios · May 12, 2006, 05:06 PM // 17:06

The amount of faction you earn at Altrumm Ruins seems to increase exponentially in relation to your score. Haven't quite worked out the exact mathematics to it...

Score 30pts and earn ~150 faction
Score 90pts and earn ~700faction

I've heard reports from a few of the other guild leaders in my alliance who said they had a run:
Score 208pts and earned ~7k faction

I can't personally confirm the 7k faction...but the 700+ is very true. I earned 2k faction with PUGs in about 1hr and a half in Altrumm this morning...

Definitely generates faction faster then any other means I've seen so far.

Dreaded Nightshade

GranDeWun · May 12, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Fast farming: Luxons have supply run quest, Kurzicks have duelists quest. Both take a few minutes per run, and give 400 faction. Luxon is arguably faster, and can be done by more classes.

Racthoh · May 12, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by ginnstudios

The amount of faction you earn at Altrumm Ruins seems to increase exponentially in relation to your score. Haven't quite worked out the exact mathematics to it...

Score 30pts and earn ~150 faction
Score 90pts and earn ~700faction

I think it depends on the Refined Amber that you get, as I got a score over 100 with the henchmen and got under 700.

heaven · May 12, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

I agree that Zos Shivos Channel gives rediculous low amount of faction compared with other challenges on both sides. The reason may be because of the holding records. If you take a look at the record, the first and second positions are SOLO 1 man team

. Actually, most of the top 10 are either solo or less than 3 man.

The top one has too high score (more than 3000) so that is why everyone get so low points because your points is relative to the top one. I don't know how they did it SOLO but it seems impossible to do with 55. When I saw solo, I think about 55 immediately. However, 55s don't have a chance because they strip enchantment and necro vampiric skills kill 55s in no time. Any one have a clue how to solo that challenge?

Shifty Five Monk · May 12, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Challenge missions and alliance battles are not the only way to farm faction... believe me. I know ways to get 10k an hour easy and maybe thats why we have cavalon... Anyway jsut do some exploring and you will figure it out.

Racthoh · May 12, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by heaven

I agree that Zos Shivos Channel gives rediculous low amount of faction compared with other challenges on both sides. The reason may be because of the holding records. If you take a look at the record, the first and second positions are SOLO 1 man team

. Actually, most of the top 10 are either solo or less than 3 man.

The top one has too high score (more than 3000) so that is why everyone get so low points because your points is relative to the top one. I don't know how they did it SOLO but it seems impossible to do with 55. When I saw solo, I think about 55 immediately. However, 55s don't have a chance because they strip enchantment and necro vampiric skills kill 55s in no time. Any one have a clue how to solo that challenge?

There was a post in screenshots about a pathing exploit that allowed for very high scores. Can't remember if it's the same challenge, but it was Luxon, all I can remember.

Shifty Five Monk · May 12, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by GranDeWun

Fast farming: Luxons have supply run quest, Kurzicks have duelists quest. Both take a few minutes per run, and give 400 faction. Luxon is arguably faster, and can be done by more classes.

Listen to this guy. Get a ranger secondary and bam, easy run

Haggard · May 12, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Are you saying you can run through mobs of Oni's, Luxon mind freezers, Warden trappers, Dredge trappers all at once as a N/R?

heaven · May 12, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

There was a post in screenshots about a pathing exploit that allowed for very high scores. Can't remember if it's the same challenge, but it was Luxon, all I can remember.

You are right Racthoh. It is here http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3027021.

It is a bug in Aurios Mine challenge. However, monster mobs in Zos Shivos Channel challenge do not stuck at any point. They came after us wave after wave after wave. May be the top guy expoited a similar bug early when Faction was first came out. If Anet does not reset the scores soon, everyone will continue to get very low faction reward due to these ridiculous high scores like that.

heaven · May 12, 2006, 06:02 PM // 18:02

By the way, do the top scores stay there forever or they reset scores from time to time?

Rhuobhe · May 12, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

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Originally Posted by GranDeWun

Fast farming: Luxons have supply run quest, Kurzicks have duelists quest. Both take a few minutes per run, and give 400 faction. Luxon is arguably faster, and can be done by more classes.

Luxon is unquestionably faster if you are a Warrior primary.

The run takes less than 3 minutes and yeilds 400 faction every time. There is no reliance on other real people or on henchmen like in the duelist quest.

In addition you can open multiple chests along the way. Luxons have it better than Kurzicks in that regard.

Racthoh · May 12, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Ah, thanks Heaven. Knew it was there somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

Luxon is unquestionably faster if you are a Warrior primary.

The run takes less than 3 minutes and yeilds 400 faction every time. There is no reliance on other real people or on henchmen like in the duelist quest.

In addition you can open multiple chests along the way. Luxons have it better than Kurzicks in that regard.

I've found the Kurzick quest to be similar in time, and multiple chests on occasion with the path I've used, solo or otherwise.

Rhuobhe · May 12, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Ah, thanks Heaven. Knew it was there somewhere.

I've found the Kurzick quest to be similar in time, and multiple chests on occasion with the path I've used, solo or otherwise.

Soloing the duel? :P

Racthoh · May 12, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

If solo, I change one skill to Sprint.