Curse

myword · Jun 21, 2006, 10:11 AM // 10:11

did a search earlier and came up with nothing so here goes

here's a description of the quest in question, courtesy of guidwiki: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Securing_Echovald_Forest

currently, the quest can be completed by running to the 4 designated checkpoints, before you even accept the quest from Scoutmaster Arne. Here's what's going on.

Your party splits up, runs to the 4 designated checkpoints, die, take the quest from Scoutmaster Arne, he'll consider you to have completed the quest and you receive your reward.

What this does is it lets you bypass the Luxon groups, that spawn only after you accept the quest. 2 minute run for 400 kurzick faction.

Is the quest working as intended (ie. an easily farmable quest) and is there a Luxon equivalent of this quest? (I haven't PvE'd much lately and as far as Luxon zones, haven't made it past Cavalon.)

Cacheelma · Jun 21, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

....How could you trigger the quest update by running to each of the 4 checkpoints WHEN NOBODY in your team HAS THE QUEST?

I don't think you can. Since there's no quest to begin with, what would be updated?

You can only do what you said if one of your teammates has the quest though. And you won't find any Luxons if you know where they will spawn and just avoid the spots (these spots are not the same as the checkpoints).

Cracko · Jun 21, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Yea u can, its called faction farming, itll get nerfed real soon i think :/

myword · Jun 21, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

....How could you trigger the quest update by running to each of the 4 checkpoints WHEN NOBODY in your team HAS THE QUEST?

that's what you'd think. try it for yourself, or go to Lutgardis Conservatory, join one of the 'FF groups' forming there running out into Melandru's Hope.

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

I don't think you can. Since there's no quest to begin with, what would be updated?

You can only do what you said if one of your teammates has the quest though. And you won't find any Luxons if you know where they will spawn and just avoid the spots (these spots are not the same as the checkpoints).

nope, it's a repeatable quest, once you leave that zone, it doesn't stay in your quest log!

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Originally Posted by Cracko

Yea u can, its called faction farming, itll get nerfed real soon i think :/

i thought it was common knowledge when i learnt it from my roommate who was in one of the guilds in oOo, apparently it isn't?

wilebill · Jun 21, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

Think you can. I cleared the map for fun the other day, in the process going through all the check points. Then I talked to Scoutmaster Arne. He gave me the quest, and instantly it was completed. Then it rained Luxons!

I myself, just IMHO, think faction farming drives down amber prices. Of course with the tax on faction for alliances, faction farming is going to be done. The whole faction system needs work I think.

dustbunny · Jun 21, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by myword

is there a Luxon equivalent of this quest?

Yes there is. It's in Mount Quinkai explorable area. You have to hit 4 points in that explorable area as well and you can do it before taking the quest.

Swinging Fists · Jun 21, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

I don't understand the replies that say "No - this can't be done." Obviously, the OP has done it, knows how to do it, and continues to do it. I did not know about this until now, but judging by the Faction holding HzH, I assume this is what people are doing. During the days before the nerf of the Luxon Supply Line quest, Cavalon barely topped 12 million - I'm not sure that it even broke 12 million. That run took about 2 mins as well.

This WILL be nerfed. No question about it. Or more correctly, I should say it will be corrected. They will probably change the fact that you can complete the objectives before taking the quest.

There is a Mapping the Jade Sea quest, but I have never tried it. I don't know if it has the same exploitable characteristics. Actually, I take that back. It probably does because everytime I have done a supply run, I also get message that my Charting the Jade Sea quest has been updated, even though I never took the quest.

Don't expect to be able to do this much longer.

wassup1444465 · Jun 21, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

It's actually easy enough to do that I can do this and several chest run maps on my monk runner :/ It'll definately get nerfed.

Guinevere Ac · Jun 21, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

the main point is that a single character can run this quest for 7 ppl waiting afk just at the exit of lutgardis... def not funny for ppl that actualy play the game.
nerfed for sure sooner or later, in 2 ways

1- locations doesnt trigger be4 u pick the quest up
2- the quest is not completed if u don't reach the 4 places yourself

easy enought. can still be runned, way harder and not for 8 ppl as it's now

anarion · Jun 23, 2006, 01:39 AM // 01:39

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

Don't expect to be able to do this much longer.

it's already been around for quite some time already

My Sweet Revenga · Jun 28, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

I hope when they do nerf/correct it, what they do is make it so you can't tag the points unless you take the quest first. I really hope they don't decide to put more enemies between the start and the points because after this ff method is nerfed, I would still like to run around and grab some chests (wow that didn't sound right)

Fates · Jun 28, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

Ya, I use it as a chest run, not a FF run, but I do collect the faction as a bonus. 4 minutes a run max, get 3-4 chests every time and 400 faction. Not too bad. The vast majority of the chests are crap though. Working on 3rd lvl treasure hunter

Carinae · Jun 28, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

There is a Mapping the Jade Sea quest, but I have never tried it. I don't know if it has the same exploitable characteristics. Actually, I take that back. It probably does because everytime I have done a supply run, I also get message that my Charting the Jade Sea quest has been updated, even though I never took the quest.

True, but Mapping the Jade Sea isn't repeatable. Plus you have to hit all five points before leaving the zone, or it resets.

So yea, it has the exploit also, but it isn't a major problem.