Curse

moko · Jul 28, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

As has been stated. EoE > Afflicted. Just don't drop it until the peasants die.

peasents wont trigger eoe so you get damage. i put it on the start of the second wave and the peasents died and i never took damage. eoe is the key with henchman, not with pugs tho. theyll flame, ragequit, and possibe MMs will commit suicide (teehe)

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This is maybe a good tip for those who decide not to do it with 15 henchies, as as said above, the average level is better in foreign quarters - thus making a master team in locals may be a good idea, even if you're tyrian.

QFT. you cant imagine how often i failed at foreign, then went to local, found a nice looking team and..got it O.o foreign were hench only

DFrost · Jul 29, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Rangers: trap the places where afflicted jump out of the ground
Necros: there are lots of corpses to exploit, so you can easily bring at least 2 MMs. If you have more necros, have someone bring well of blood
Eles: Just spam those AoE fire spells.

Cebe · Jul 31, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

YES - YES YES YES YES YES YES -- OH YES

GET IN

Finally have masters on this - thanks to everyone who gave hints... Just Eternal Grove and Raisu Palace left to get. I've been reading the Raisu Palace thread...but anyone got any idead on the Eternal Grove? Killing off the Luxons is a piece of piss, but when the afflicted come we all just get pwnd...

Sir Mad · Jul 31, 2006, 11:28 AM // 11:28

I'm surprised, I got masters for Eternal Grove with all my chars but one - this one is pretty easy. Basically, masters for this one relies on: 1/ the monk, 2/ the rit.

A spiritual lord with union/shelter/displacement, and a few damage spirits he drops at both doors is a very good idea. I noticed healer henchman + Eve are doing an amazing job there: they will actually heal the trees, and better than a real monk - they're kinda psychic. And Eve for BR (damn henchies with no energy management) so the hench monks won't run out of energy. Henchies may get confused when the team split to fight 2 groups at the same time but I remember doing it this way with my warrior (no real monk) and that was ok.

In any case, I'd suggest 1 hench monk and 1 real monk over 2 real monks for masters there. Add a ritual lord and if everybody do his job, you should get it.

Evilsod · Jul 31, 2006, 11:37 AM // 11:37

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

I'm surprised, I got masters for Eternal Grove with all my chars but one - this one is pretty easy. Basically, masters for this one relies on: 1/ the monk, 2/ the rit.

No it doesn't... Vizunah relies entirely on EoE and rampaging. I swear i did that mission without a monk on my team. I remember doing the mission, then going back to Vizunah Foreign afterwards, going to kill some Jades and getting utterly wasted because it was a team of 8 with no monk... Henchman ftw + Mhenlo.

If your warriors, eles, or MMs suck, you won't get it... plain and simple.

Drewfense · Jul 31, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Bring 2 MMs on your team...that usually wins it yourself. EoE as stated tears through vizunah. Another trick is to bring FW and Winnow...the spirits have been noobed up by BPers, but they actually do very well in most afflicted areas since only the warriors actually do physical damage (doing this I got masters in tannakai as a ranger). Just have a lot of physical damage in your party (minions do physical as well I think). And as for any masters mission, get someone you can trust to monk. All of Cantha is very much solo monkable if you have the right group composition.

Sir Mad · Jul 31, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

No it doesn't... Vizunah relies entirely on EoE and rampaging. I swear i did that mission without a monk on my team. I remember doing the mission, then going back to Vizunah Foreign afterwards, going to kill some Jades and getting utterly wasted because it was a team of 8 with no monk... Henchman ftw + Mhenlo.

If your warriors, eles, or MMs suck, you won't get it... plain and simple.

I was answering Celestial's question about Eternal Grove, not Vizunah

But I agree concerning hanchies in Vizunah.

Don Zardeone · Jul 31, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Eternal grove is easy. Just do it oldschool.
2 tanks, 2 monks, 4 others (damage, for example, MM with golem and fiends, barragers, stuff like that)

After the luxons you should put each tank on a gate.
Nothing will get through.

It's kinda boring really.

SnipiousMax · Jul 31, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

^ Yea, once the siege turltes are down, its just a matter of splitting the team and engaging the enemy before they reach the gates. MM's are a BIG help on this mission, those minions/fiends are great as a mobile 'gate'.

OlMurraniKasale · Aug 01, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13

The update from A-Net now stops the mission timer for cutscenes. Minions no longer decay, and those people who always seem to let the cutscenes roll will no longer cause loss of Masters for that reason alone.

Kariston The Swift · Aug 01, 2006, 05:49 AM // 05:49

Bringing 2 MMs helps because there are alot of corpses. Hell I did it with 3 MMs once since there was one on the other team and everyone kept 10 minions with no problem.

Cebe · Aug 01, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

OK, I feel I should ask if anyone would be prepared to give me a hand trying to get masters on this quest...cause it's just not happening for me. Aside from the afflicted pwning me, there's never anyone in the Eternal Grove who is interested in trying to get Masters...

Sooo, if anyone should want to hellp little old me get Masters I would really appreciate it, I am usually on between 6PM-10PM GMT, in the English Districts, Character Name: Hitomi Kyoko.

Many thanks...

arcanemacabre · Aug 01, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19

I think that mission alone was reason enough to nerf MMs... can you imagine a pre-nerf MM going through that mission? They could solo it, no problem.

Oh I miss those days

Sir Mad · Aug 01, 2006, 11:28 AM // 11:28

Oh well I may give you a hand Ceslestial if you wanna do that provided I'm not busy when you wanna try. I think the most useful I can bring is a monk or rit lord for this mission...

PM me if you need help.

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Cebe · Aug 01, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24

@ Sir Mad

That would be really helpful, thanks, I might see if you're around tonight if I can stand to do that mission again! Maybe Rit Lord would be useful since my Brother makes a damn fine Monk...but whatever you think is best.

Saphatorael · Aug 01, 2006, 12:38 PM // 12:38

I need the master's reward too on my monk (that and Raisu palace) to get my much wanted title... any chance that i can team up with you as well tonight?

makosi · Aug 01, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24

EoE is your friend.

A good way to whizz through this mission is to bring a 16BM ranger with Oath Shot and EoE and a N/Mo healer who can spam Heal Party. Keep in mind that there are Am Fah and Canthan Peasants which are also humans so don't use EoE when you see them around otherwise it will backfire on you.

There is also the problem with the other team being stupid and forgetting to bring monks or something like that but either way that's out of your control.

Good luck and if you need some help, PM me in game.

Sir Mad · Aug 01, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Aww EoE is good for Vizunah, but don't bring that in Eternal Grove: most of the mobs are human!

Cebe · Aug 01, 2006, 02:44 PM // 14:44

@ Saphatorael - feel free...if you, me Sir Mad and my brother are all on at the same time then that's at least the monk problem dealt with! I also need Raisu Palace and would gladly try that with you at some point.

Charrbane · Aug 01, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

I have as of yet to try the Vizunah mission. I don't like Pug's and the negative attitude of certain other players. Heh. I've been screwing around and avoiding Vizunah so far. I can't just do it with my guild as theres only 3 of us and 1 doesn't own Factions. I find this forced grouping mission idea annoying. I just want to get through this mission now and get it out of my way. I think a mission like this would probably be a blast with a larger guild. 1-2 guildies, a bunch of hench and an angry mob of players on the other team doesn't sound like a good time to me. Oh well....