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Jackylicious · Aug 19, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Don't waste money on low end keys. Only buy keys for chests that qualify for high end chests for the title.

Know your prices and watch your chat window, many times I've picked up something and quickly flipped it for an easy and quick profit. Keep a list of things you're selling in a text file, whenever in a town etc. post a couple things even if only there a minute or two. If your prices match the market you just need to find a buyer, easier to do so making the odd post in various areas rather than standing in one place trying to flog things for sale all day long.

Pick up and sell everything, don't bother with salvaging or identifying materials etc until you get to lvl 20 areas, then salvage and identify everything. I always make more money than spent on kits.

SOLO, SOLO, SOLO as much as you can. Especially in seldom visited areas of the map. Today I probably made about 60-80k which included 2 black dye drops and not a single green.

Been playing this game 6 months and have my 6 characters outfitted very well with about 2 million in storage counting cash, ectos, etc. I find making money pretty easy and I rarely "farm" and never make chest runs (although I always have keys for high-end chests).

llsektorll · Aug 19, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

meh.. its not easy anymore... i use to do runs bak before factions destroyed my dreams...

my advice to you is when nightfall comes out learn it quick find some leet skins or new greens and sell them overpriced while they are fresh... sometimes you feel bad that you are selling a awsome weapon you could be holding instead of selling it.. but trust me sell it first it only gets cheaper and cheaper later on...

it worked for factions and the deep weapons... it got to the point where i was selling zodiac weapons for 100k + 45e that were imperfect.... made 1000k in 5 hours one night doing that ^_^... it takes some luck and bit of determination..

Sir fredman · Aug 19, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

wow..i use a build for nolani at the gate where the charr are and i open it and use my build 3-5minutes later you get 150-200g after you kill all the char do that for an hour and thats like 2k-2.5k in an hour.

Mr Crapsicle · Aug 19, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

There is at best a slim chance that you will come out ahead in the chest game. At best....

I won't spell it out for you, but what happens when Nightfall comes out ? What is the one thing(s) that everyone will be needing/(wanting) ?

Create a mule and stock up. Factions was very, very good to me this way.

As another poster suggested - get to the greens first and sell fast.

Also running still can be good, just as soloing certain missions is.

This way you'll have enough money to waste on keys....

Horseman Of War · Aug 19, 2006, 08:29 PM // 20:29

ya after playing for over a year, Id say i have pretty much everything i need as far as having good max weaons, and max armor for all my characters...
I even have a half dozen max bows that I will use (when i get that pre-order slot with nightfall)

Ironically- my original character is still using a Garboks Cane (mesmer) and that really isnt a good domination wand... its ok... but there are better...

I dont 'farm' like crazy - but I do have 15k armor set on my Warrior, a 15k pimp-coat for my mes, and 15k gloves, legs, and chest on my necro.

I have a real hard time saving anything - i have no patience for TradeWars... and ive ended up selling to merchants or giving away for free a LOT of good items (non-perfects, but still quite good IMO)

I also help my guild buy merchants- bought the weapon merchant myself (doh, pointless!) and I mustve dropped 25k on the skill trainer (meh... is there a real use for this thing lol?)

But even tho I have 15k armor, I really think that I live humbly within the game- I got my armor for a 15^50 axe that someone bought for 100k (i wouldnt ever pay more than 10k for a modless perfect... lol)

My point, (i think), is that for the first few months of playing- even if you are playing 12 hours a day - you really wont get ahead much... especially if you have multiple characters, managing each's "allowance" really cuts into that nice chunk of platinum you have...

My best advice is to NOT sell collector items; save them ALL and get a list online for where to trade them... this way you can get your perfect weapons/etc while you save up for some max armor for all your characters.

ALSO-> Ive had to smack around my guildies a bit on this one: DONT DO DROKS RUN UNLESS YOU DONT HAVE FACTIONS!!!!!! I cannot stress this enough!!! Getting to lions arch is MUCH easier, and you can take the boat directly to KC, where there is max armor (granted, there are some pieces here and there that you might want to be from tyria... such as the brute's helmet) But seriously, even if you are like lvl 5, its going to be much better to pay (if they make you pay) for a run to Lions Arch, then to spend 3k on droks run which equates to 2 pieces of max armor that you have to re-budget.

Now, if i was only this thrifty in real life lol

I pwnd U · Aug 19, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Here it goes. My way to solve money problems. Farm lots, buy nothing.

My way to get over 100k slowly! lol But honestly if you dont need it dont buy it. Just save all your money, try to sell any high end items you have, find what you need, dont but it unless you have too. (EX: id kits and salvage kits)

Horseman Of War · Aug 19, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Crapsicle

I won't spell it out for you, but what happens when Nightfall comes out ? What is the one thing(s) that everyone will be needing/(wanting) ?

Create a mule and stock up. Factions was very, very good to me this way.

....

My guild was talking about this just last night-> we have decided to save EVERY decent shield, that requires tactics of 10 or less.

I dont know-> considering a LOT of paragons will be p/w and use tactics... they will want some hawt shields, right?

basically, aside from the perpetual sword and axe prices (too much, i use a hammer lol- best hammer is like 25k, best axe is like 100k+++) I really think that a LOT of people will be hunting for the offhand weapon to their spear.

Focus Items and Tactics Shields. Thats what im putting my money on, at least. There gonna be a lot of spear-wielding characters, whihc means a LOT of characters need a perfect offhand... I bet you wroths icon will go back up in price a little (lol)

Anyone object??

EDIT->> Yo, save your spare sigil stones too... maybe even go as far as to buy out the trader@!!!! There will be a lot of new guilds popping up, and unless ANet gives away sigils for free again (pvp weekend: flame of balthazar, for eszmple) then the price at the trader will jump up for quite some time after NFs release... What, a sigil is worth no more than 10k right now, right? sell for 20-25k and make a really good prophet.

stokey · Aug 20, 2006, 11:35 AM // 11:35

The paragon has 2 shields tied to their attributes. The only paragons who'd use tactics shields would be those that don't want to spec in those.

Anyway, back to the topic. I'm a R5 treasure hunter and I can vouch that chest farming is profitable. I buy keys in bulk from people in alliances that own towns so I can get them at a discounted price (bulk = 1000+). Then I go out and chest farm. You won't usually find a perfect gold but perfect mods aren't uncommon. A +30 sword pommel sells for about 50k so that pays off for 100 keys already. The double gold weekend increased my wealth by about 800k and that's after spending a couple 100k on unid golds (working on wisdom too).

little mini dude · Aug 21, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

well i go run with a group in Explorable Raisue just watch if the chest is gold or not if gold go get it if not dont get my whole inventory stacked with golds post LF someone 2 id 40-70 golds 500 each and when u get the items back u should atleast get a mod or item worth over 10k so ya its a good way 2 make money i made about 100k doin this so far

Livingston · Aug 21, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

pssst AB

Cebe · Aug 21, 2006, 10:01 AM // 10:01

I find that having one dedicated farming character (in my case my Mesmer), and putting other characters through the game, currently, makes a fair stack of money...

Putting other characters through the game, noth only makes money but accumulates Imperial Commendations/Equipment Requisitions/Luxon Totems, so Salvage Kits are all free for the farmer to use... I have just discovered a good solo farming build for my Mesmer...so Jade Brotherhood Knights are now my best friends! I don't do chest runs myself since a) i'm NOT lucky and b) unless something drops a key for me keys are such a waste of money....considering my luck!

Another good use of money is to not spend it. Collectors Armor & Weapons FTW! (at least until I can afford the armor I want).

llsektorll · Aug 21, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

god i wish i invested in ectos... or atleast i wish i didn't liquidate them...they were down to 4k each and i sold em all off a few weeks later they are up to 8k a pop i was like NOOOOOOOO!... life sucks when ur investments go wrong...

which brings me to my next point... lineage 2 has a lottery system which i think sucks... i know its ripping off of something lame as neopets but a in game stock market would own.. i'd invest and manage my portfolio day and night... w00t w00t to striking it rich the lucky way ... nothing better than legal gambling..

Poison Ivy · Aug 21, 2006, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Buy low sell high the "dummy" way man.

Normally I have one account in Kaineng Center, another in Lion's Arch or Droknar's Forge. If I had an extra account, I'd use them to patrol all 3 towns, but sadly I don't

However it doesn't require 2 accounts, you can warp back and forth from one of those towns and look for people wanting to buy something and another dude selling the same thing.

Also never buy those high end gold items, stick with cheap greens that are cheap and have decent stats, or Collector's, crafters for those rare situations, like +5 energy swords etc.

Shadwu · Aug 21, 2006, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livingston

pssst AB

Doesnt make much money anymore

Vermins make more..

Mr Crapsicle · Aug 21, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Quote:

My guild was talking about this just last night-> we have decided to save EVERY decent shield, that requires tactics of 10 or less.

Well, that's a little more micro than I intended. Surely a good idea, but more of a gamble and likely to require a greater time investment than needed IMO.

With the release of a new chapter, certain predicatable events occur which shift the economy into a state of flux for a period of time. Certain items become much more valuable for a limited amount of time. Even with the availability of a tab to stock them, most will still find that they need them.

Afterall, who doesn't rush out and get new _________ as soon as they can ?

And of course the flip side of all this flux is the temporary reduction in the value of certain items. As referenced by another poster; ectos, shards, rubys, saphires all reached ridiculously low prices. You'd think that they had a tanker full of oil run aground in Alaska....

Which brings me to my point and what I find is the easiest way to make money in game.
speculate in quantity
upgrade - 2 piles + 2 stacks = 1 stack/pile of higher value
buy low and sell high
farm greens that others have yet to figure and flood

I do believe that chest running can be profitable, but the total time investment (run, salvage or get rare item, sell) and cash outlay for keys is too much for my tastes. I can make a profit without ever having to sell to anyone but NPCs if I want. Much more by selling directly. And even more when a new chapter is released.

SirShadowrunner · Aug 22, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

I say Jacklicious sums it up pretty well, that is what I do for the most part
also, get yourself a Monk and a Warrior setup and learn to solo as many
things as possible, you will want to change things up from time to time.
The warrior probably has more solo opportunity's than the monk, just
look at the farming thread here and the solo list, alot there to keep yourself
busy with.
I find going to FoW spider cave with my warrior the fastest way to
consisently gather $$, I have not gotten to UW with my monk yet to try
monk/necro farming for ectos, but I think it is also a good $$ maker.
I been just doing desert and troll cave/tundra giants runs, the tundra giants
drop gold armor, got a sup. vigor last week, sold for 30k.

good luck in making $$
SirShadowrunner

p.s. sell all 20/20 sundering mods.....sold bowstring for 25k last week also....

lennymon · Aug 22, 2006, 10:47 PM // 22:47

I farm all materials for my armors, and it pays for the armor and then some. Not once have I bought 15k or obsidian armor, still thinking about whether or not to get the fow but I already have all the materials. HECK! collectors armor works great until you get the cash and materials, dont waste money on buying steel and iron for armor... just get collectors and wait till you got everything
Like many other posters I've sold green items and stuff from the deep, made lots of money that way. I use a 14^50 purple bow... and when I touch farm I use collector gear, its better than that easy to farm green blood staff too. Rit farming is great for cash also

Shadow_7 · Aug 22, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

As Lenny said, I farm all materials for my armor. I don't like to farm a lot, I like to enjoy the game; however, I have learned to farm for cash when needed (having a rit have helped a lot). Always check collectors weapons, which are very good. Also, pick up everything that drops for you and sell to merchant. Save all collectors items and watch for people who needs them and sell for a fair price.

Taeron · Aug 23, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

I tried several farming builds, with several classes and although it can bring up lots of ca$h, it's time consuming...chest running is fun but also somewhat boring when you have no luck like me and open 200 chests with nothing valuable inside...(noooo, no more purple sticks and wands...)
So I decided not to chase the plats but just trying to enjoy the game for what it is. This night I opened a chest with a team a friends. result : gold crappy wand for me and superior vigor ruen for a friend. Guess that's the way it goes !
If I need money to satisfy a sudden need I'll farm with my R. Otherwise, I'll just try to put the plats in my stockage instead of buying a perfect mod that seems attractive...

Mordakai · Aug 23, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

And here I was thinking having 200k was rich.

I guess it all depends on your perspective.

For those of you who have millions in gold, I gotta ask, what is there to spend money on? FoW armor for all your characters?