Curse

icklegoth · Oct 03, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

i know theres a tone of threads on this but none of them seemed to have helped and im about to throw the pc out of the window,....

Im a level20 Necro/Ele. I have a 11-22 staff. I equipped all naff skills except obsideon flame and life siphon. He is just beating the hell out of me with just his bow and im not doing any damage! What am i doing wrong??? Ive i equip skills he just beats the hell out of me with them istead and i cant even get an attack in. I cant heal up either. Any help guys???

Ickle

DeanBB · Oct 03, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

"I equipped all naff skills" = what does this mean?

Remove points from blood and equip all the sacrificing skills you have. Bring some worthless elemental skills to waste his time (attunements, I don't know?). Cast area affect spells on him and when he casts them on you then move out of them.

I just did this as ne/ra and while he was casting his sacrifices and attacking my pet I set traps then lured him onto them, game over.

Age · Oct 03, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

Thismay help you out

ender6 · Oct 03, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Since you are necro primary why not max out Curses (no other att points used) and fill your skill bar with sacrafice skills:

Cast Insidious Parasite on Doppleganger. Then Kite. He will Sac himself to death and heal you while he is at it.

AotB
Dark Fury
Deominc Flesh
Order of Pain
Veratas Aura
Dark Pact
Signet of Agony

icklegoth · Oct 04, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24

aaah many thanks for all your help guys

It would seem i havent got all the skills i need so i'll need to go a-huntin'

cheers all!

Mister Overhill · Oct 04, 2006, 09:52 PM // 21:52

My daughter couldn't seem to get her N/E through there, and left in a dark frame of mind. While she was gone, I just took it on myself to temporarily turn her into a nuker. Dropped Meteor Shower going in, and before it could get up for the last time, I finished it off. It was over in a hurry.

lightblade · Oct 04, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41

The whole point of Doppelganger is to know your own strength and weaknesses.

Smashing Zori · Oct 07, 2006, 06:32 AM // 06:32

if u dont want the bonus u can do what i did wit my necro when he was only lvl 13. go in wit some crappy enchantment hell usually turn it on in the beginning, thisll give u time to run back to where those 2 slanted hill things are. get between them, now everytime u see him shoot u wit his bow, move to the opposite direction. dont rapidly tap left and right, hell still hit u. but if u go drastic amounts each direction itll cause him to miss greatly! Make sure u have a fast casting weapon an everytime he shoots dodge shoot dodge shoot continue for a few minutes an its over

Perkunas · Oct 07, 2006, 06:47 PM // 18:47

It took me 10 tries to get my E/Me thru Doppleganger. I found it is the order in which you equip skills. Left to right - useless skills with long cast times and no real benefit. Air attunement, earth attunement, 1 other useless skill. Then high damage skills. Put Backfire in last slot. You cast backfire as soon as you get there, while the dopple casts the useless ones. Then when it starts on the damage skills, down it goes in less than 10 secs. I know you are talking N/E, but a similar skill arangement may help.

ShaneOfMach · Oct 09, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

OMG this is all you need

Awaken the Blood
Order of Pain

Watch him sacrifice himself to death

NJudson · Oct 09, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

I think the necro was definitely the easiest doppleganger for me to beat...or at least most enjoyable. I did pretty much what you other guys did by loading skills that will make him kill himself. Funny to see how stupid AI can be sometimes.

xerverkillah · Oct 09, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

OMG this is all you need

Awaken the Blood
Order of Pain

Watch him sacrifice himself to death

QFT

necro is one of the easiest beat dopple with. just bring self sacrifice skills.

cataphract · Oct 09, 2006, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by xerverkillah

necro is one of the easiest beat dopple with. just bring self sacrifice skills.

It's pure fun watching the dumb bastard kill himself.

I loved killing him with my warrior, too. He spammed Frenzy like crazy. Crazy Frenzy. Yeah, It's time for my morning coffee.

Lotii · Oct 09, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Thanks for all of the advice! Only two tries to kill my Doppleganger, and he went down in about 10 seconds

I've read the left to right spell bar activation tips, but I swear the Dop just went straight for the spell I have in slot 7. No worries though - Backfire was in slot 8, so after I cast that one he was down for the count.

Jeremy Untouchable · Oct 13, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

i beat him first try at lvl 16, useless stuff from 1 thro 7 number 8 SS 16 curses, target him when you go in, cast SS wand him to death, i used bleesed aura, mark of pain, life atunment, and others

Pick Me · Oct 13, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Don't use elites. If you do, don't bother with Ascention, as you are already at Droks.

Price of Failure
Enfeeble
Insidious Parasite
Blur Vision or Bliding Flash (Blur Vision is better)
Defile Flesh
Rez Signet
Signet Of Capture
Well of Blood

Do nothing but cast spells 1-4.

The damage on you will be healed. It has no healing and any missess = damage.

Treg Q · Oct 13, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Doppel can't use healing breeze btw. Iron Mist + flare combo is good too.

Skuld · Oct 13, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

Order of Pain, Order of Vampire, Awaken, Scourge Healing on my old N/Mo. Yes, I bought scourge from copperhammer but you can get it unlocked in PvP and buy it now

LouAl · Oct 13, 2006, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treg Q

Doppel can't use healing breeze btw. Iron Mist + flare combo is good too.

Not true. Dopple can, and does, use HB, but only to counteract against health degen and it doesn't always use it even then...it is the same with most (all?) AI in the game.

There are a ton of myths about the dopple and most of them are not true...

EDIT: Added a picture because it really bugs me that much. Oh yeah, and that setup killed him in about 12 seconds even though he used HB. I had to go back in and do it again because he died too fast and I didn't get the screenie the first time.

Skuld · Oct 15, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

The original thing was the dopple only used breeze against degen but that seems to have got lost along the line.