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bowwow · Nov 15, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54

ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover

clickable link

im happy with it

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by bowwow

ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover

clickable link

im happy with it

It is very nice

but why 3 silver and dye remover, you get the same from 1 silver and dye remover?

bowwow · Nov 15, 2005, 03:02 PM // 15:02

well not really i think. I took 1 dye remover each time, and mixed that with 3 silver...with each silver you see the dye remover become lighter and lighter.

Think about this.. if you mix 1 bottle of red paint with one bottle of white paint you would get lighter red. But then when you use 3 bottles of white to mix with 1 bottle of red the red would be alot lighter.. I take it its working the same way with the GW dyes

Transluecent51 · Nov 15, 2005, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Heres the closest Ive gotten white on my ele. It works for me...but formula I used is yellow+silver+silver+silver. Depending on where you are it always differs in color if you have a silver in a mix because lighting. Silvers with dye remover just gives some crappy colors no close to white in my trails.

RTSFirebat · Nov 15, 2005, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by bowwow

ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover

clickable link

im happy with it

Very cool looking, have to use that on my Warrior once I get her Droknar's or 15K armor... how you can put up with that glowing I'll never know.

I have my graphics turned down slightly to get rid of that bright glowing crap

bowwow · Nov 15, 2005, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Very cool looking, have to use that on my Warrior once I get her Droknar's or 15K armor... how you can put up with that glowing I'll never know.

I have my graphics turned down slightly to get rid of that bright glowing crap

yeah its that anti alliasing that makes it glow a bit. I have all graphicsettings turned up to max. i might try and lower aa a bit. It looks alot better ingame though

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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Originally Posted by bowwow

well not really i think. I took 1 dye remover each time, and mixed that with 3 silver...with each silver you see the dye remover become lighter and lighter.

Think about this.. if you mix 1 bottle of red paint with one bottle of white paint you would get lighter red. But then when you use 3 bottles of white to mix with 1 bottle of red the red would be alot lighter.. I take it its working the same way with the GW dyes

Right so you didnt use 1 dye remover as you said then but 3?

so its the same as 1 silver dye, and adding 3 dye removers to it.

bowwow · Nov 15, 2005, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by aron searle

Right so you didnt use 1 dye remover as you said then but 3?

so its the same as 1 silver dye, and adding 3 dye removers to it.

noooo..the other way around. Take 1 dyeremover, and throw 3 silvers in it. The dye remover in your inventory will get lighter with each silver you drop in it..hope that explains it

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23

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Originally Posted by bowwow

noooo..the other way around. Take 1 dyeremover, and throw 3 silvers in it. The dye remover in your inventory will get lighter with each silver you drop in it..hope that explains it

ahhhhh i get you now, i will play about with that.

Rancour · Nov 15, 2005, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Now, I haven't actually tested this, but I remember being told that Dye Remover doesn't actually make anything lighter, but makes it more transparent, thereby making the BASE COLOR of armor shine through it.

That means that a Dye Remover with 3x Silvers will make a light silver that lets the base color of the armor it's a applied to, shine through more. That might explain the funny colors people are experiencing; the Dye Remover that everyone is throwing into the mix is letting the color of the blue (?) Platemail armor shine through the 3x Silvers. That was an example and I ain't even sure.

Just throwing in some information.

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Rancour

Now, I haven't actually tested this, but I remember being told that Dye Remover doesn't actually make anything lighter, but makes it more transparent, thereby making the BASE COLOR of armor shine through it.

That means that a Dye Remover with 3x Silvers will make a light silver that lets the base color of the armor it's a applied to, shine through more. That might explain the funny colors people are experiencing; the Dye Remover that everyone is throwing into the mix is letting the color of the blue (?) Platemail armor shine through the 3x Silvers. That was an example and I ain't even sure.

Just throwing in some information.

And just to confuse you all further (hell i dont get it).

silver + dye remover applied to 15k dragon armour = purple

bowwow · Nov 15, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Dye Remover is just a bottle of the base color of your armor..so for 15k gladiators its gold/yellow

Scourgey · Nov 15, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05

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Originally Posted by aron searle

so mix 4x silvers together to get silver, why?

Because, if you mix the same colour to the same colour, it becomes a deeper colour, check out this chart: http://www.estorm.com.au/gallery/gwcolours/chart.htm

Rancour · Nov 15, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by bowwow

Dye Remover is just a bottle of the base color of your armor..so for 15k gladiators its gold/yellow

I'm not so sure. A Dye Remover is a bottle of, well, bleach. It removes any dye/paint that has been applied, leaving only the color of the actual armor. On 15k gladiator's armor, the base color is a goldish-yellow. Dye Remover removes anything BUT that color.

However, you might be right too. The problem is that we don't know, and that causes some problems. Either Dye Remover ADDS the old color on top of everything new, or it removes all the new and leaves the old.

I think it's the last one but...

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by Scourgey

Because, if you mix the same colour to the same colour, it becomes a deeper colour, check out this chart: http://www.estorm.com.au/gallery/gwcolours/chart.htm

All i see are coloured squares, with text size 1 text.

and no add blue to blue you get blue, see this one its much better. (and there are several others that agree with it if you google).

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Image:...radded2yu2.JPG

(EDIT for example to make a deeper blue you add black, or blue blue black. Blue + Blue = Blue)

Slade xTekno · Nov 15, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

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Originally Posted by Rancour

I'm not so sure. A Dye Remover is a bottle of, well, bleach. It removes any dye/paint that has been applied, leaving only the color of the actual armor. On 15k gladiator's armor, the base color is a goldish-yellow. Dye Remover removes anything BUT that color.

However, you might be right too. The problem is that we don't know, and that causes some problems. Either Dye Remover ADDS the old color on top of everything new, or it removes all the new and leaves the old.

I think it's the last one but...

/sigh I really wish you guys would read the first post.

Dye Remover is a gimmicky name. It doesn't actually remove any dye, but instead dyes the Armor its original base color. It's basically a Vial of Dye that is always the base color of the armor it's used on, and it also acts as such when used in a dye mix.

Weazzol · Nov 15, 2005, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Any Mesmers out there find a nice white'sh combination yet? If so, do you have any pic's?

I did the yellow + 3 silvers on mine that has drok armor (rouge chest & boots, and I think just ench's hands & legs). It made the trim pretty darn close to white, but the main color was just more of a light grey. I'll try to remember to post a couple pics when I get home.

aron searle · Nov 15, 2005, 10:45 PM // 22:45

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Originally Posted by bowwow

noooo..the other way around. Take 1 dyeremover, and throw 3 silvers in it. The dye remover in your inventory will get lighter with each silver you drop in it..hope that explains it

Well i just want to confirm, i also tried this on my 15k plate and its quite a good white compared to what i had before.

fyi

the helm is orange and silver
the breastplate dye remover +3 silvers
the arms silver
the leggs plain
(was experimenting)

twicky_kid · Nov 15, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

yellow + silver + silver + silver is more of a tanned color than white. white would be the color of the monks robes.

i think its all a gimmick and really depends on your graphics card and what your settings are. hell i can make green purple just by using my card settings if i really wanted to.

kimo the healer · Nov 16, 2005, 01:15 AM // 01:15

Anyone know how to dye ascetics white?
Here is my experiment with yellow+silver+silver+silver
It's just looks light blue.

Maybe i should've done more research first.