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Cherno · Nov 13, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

I am currently at ~222 capped of 235. But someone said in town yesterday that they now had >235 capped. How many total skills are available to cap through the 3 campaigns and what is the max level for the title?

Gaile made a post a while back or in a chat that there would be no title that wouldn't be able to be maxed with the release of nightfall. I'm going to be pissed if I have to wait for chapter 4 (or more) to finish this title.

Thanks.

ObiWan07 · Nov 13, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

No.
You can reach 290, but after that it's 380

Thargor · Nov 13, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Short answer: No this title can NOT be maxed in Nightfall.

More descriptive answer: Elite skill hunter (5) is 290 elites captured.
Master Skill Hunter (6) is 380 elites skills.
The max you can get in Nightfall (assuming you have all skills capped from prophecies and factions) is 291 counting the elite lightbringer signet (some people report that this skill did not count for them, it did for me).
AFAIK noone has found Ebon Dust Aura yet so right now there is only 290 found.
Of course I could be wrong and the other 90 skills may be included in the update with the elite mission but i doubt that is gonna happen! Also there is no way of knowing if the title is gonna max at level 6 until someone actually reaches it.

Cherno · Nov 13, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Probably won't even max at Master skill hunter if the other patterns are to be belived, the next level would be "Grandmaster Skill Hunter".

I hate being lied to by anet.

aohige · Nov 13, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09

Well... by the nature of this title, I would expect that the only time this title will be capped, is when there are no more new guild wars chapeters coming out. :P

Cherno · Nov 13, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

I found the post that Gaile made:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=10

Would like to hear their response. I am sure there is a mea culpa coming or another "you didn't understand the words I wrote in the way that I meant them so it's your fault, not ours" response.

Arkantos · Nov 13, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

As long as theres new chapters this title wont be maxable.

Swinging Fists · Nov 13, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherno

I found the post that Gaile made:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=10

Would like to hear their response. I am sure there is a mea culpa coming or another "you didn't understand the words I wrote in the way that I meant them so it's your fault, not ours" response.

You forgot how lucky we are that they are currently working on Chapter 4 and there will be more elites to capture there.

Cherno · Nov 13, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I didn't forget, I don't care. Because sure as hell that chapter 4 will come out and you hit the cap there, there will be another level to it that you can't get until chapter 5.

I would like to find a title that does take skill and actual involvement that isn't a total money sink. I have done one of the stupid boredom titles to get KoaBD, the drunkard. I don't particularly enjoy leaving my character afk on a circle to get lucky or unlucky, and faction related titles, don't want to spend stupid amounts of money for the severly high levels of wisdom and treasure hunter.

I take a lot of pleasure from completing all the missions and bonuses and mapping out the whole land. I also enjoy testing my skill against all the bosses, with the added bonus of being able to use those skills on a pvp tune. If this is an perpetually inachievable goal, I would like to know that. I would also like to get an answer as to why it isn't maxable in this chapter.

If it turns out to be, I will eat all the crow you want, but give us an answer please.

Thargor · Nov 13, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Cherno

I would like to find a title that does take skill and actual involvement that isn't a total money sink.

Your worried about a title being a money sink and your working on this one?
Also there is little skill involved in getting this title, its not even hard to get. Look up location of skill, map to nearest town, take shortest route to boss, kill and cap boss, rinse, repeat. It took what, 2 weeks, for every elite in nightfall to be found and mapped out with the exception of ebon dust aura (wich is probably not even in the game yet and will be snuck in on an update unanounced)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherno

If this is an perpetually inachievable goal, I would like to know that. I would also like to get an answer as to why it isn't maxable in this chapter.
If it turns out to be, I will eat all the crow you want, but give us an answer please.

I hope this is never achievable, I mean i would like another max title and all but as soon as this title dries up it kinda signals the end of new chapters.
Maybe Gaile was told that all titles would be maxable in nighfall and then something changed, ever think of that? Why is everyone so quick to throw hate in Gaile's direction when something changes?
Gaile does not program the content.
Gaile does not add or remove content.
Gaile does not always know what is going on with the content.
Gaile posts about stuff she is told she can (at least thats how i understand it)
Gaile gets alot of crap thrown her direction from idiots that can't get it thru their heads that IT IS NOT HER FAULT.
Nothing like shooting the messanger.

Jade_Onyx · Nov 13, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

The way I'm reading her post now is that any title introduced in Nightfall is maxable (lightbringer/sunspear) cuz I don't see them maxing out the ha title since I don't think people want a max (will remove the one last reason for some people to play this game). I would like this to be maxable, but I don't see this ever happening (grandmaster, supreme grandmaster, dominar...).

Cherno · Nov 13, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

It is not her fault directly, but she did deliver the message, she can take a message back and give us a corrected version. If some new information becomes available that directly contradicts a previous statement shouldn't they make people aware of it? In fact, that is part of her job. She has a particularly sucky job in that aspect. I am not shooting the messenger, I understand how the system works. Gaile does an excellent job, and unfortuantely she, as others in her position of "the voice" suffer many times, get caught in the middle.

I love the game, I wouldn't be upset about this if I didn't. I am just getting sick of being dragged around being told one thing then finding out it is another. Part of the fun of the game is setting a goal for yourself. When you have beaten the game with one character, you look for more challenges. I now have 13 characters, all of which have beaten prophecies and factions. Each with different builds and strategies. I have set a goal for one of my characters to reach a title. I seek out the ones that are most attainable. When you can achieve your goals you feel good about doing so, that's what the game is about.

The skill hunter title is not that difficult or even expensive to attain. 1k for a sig at a time is not a problem. Gaining skill points is not a problem. You will usually see the people who are trying to complete max titles all have:
3x carto
3x protector
1 other grinder of their choice
Skill hunter
Lightbringer
Sunspear

They already messed up sunspear, but are working to correct it, so that's good.

Jade Onyx, I don't read her post that way because she was specifically quoting a post that made reference to the skill hunter title.

RoadKill97 · Nov 13, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

As long as theres new chapters this title wont be maxable.

I've said this before and I'll say again, Grandmaster will be the max level. It's always the max level.

Rera · Nov 13, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

I'm not sure why Anet doesn't just allow skill hunter to 'temp-max'. We know it's possible, because KoaBD was the maximum title until one of the Nightfall updates introduced the PKM title.

The problem here isn't so much whether it's Gaile's fault, but more that she loses some credibility no matter who's fault it is. The fanbase needs to have confidence that what comes out of PR is reasonably accurate. If the devs aren't giving Gaile the right information, it hurts this confidence even if it isn't Gaile's fault.

I posted on the Skill hunter subject prior to Nightfall, predicting that it would never be maxable, despite Gaile's statement. I honestly hoped I'd be wrong, but thus far ...

ObiWan07 · Nov 13, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

I'll think that Grandmaster will be max.
But probably a second skill hunter title starts right after catching the first skill after Grandmaster.

Isaac Lunoa · Nov 13, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

The problem with a temporary max is, say...

I get PKM with 10 titles, including skill hunter. These are the only 10 titles I've maxed. Chapter 4 comes out... Now I have 9 max titles. Do I lose PKM?

SnipiousMax · Nov 13, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

I think a better fix would have been to offer a title per chapter for the elites. But then again, that would make the KoaBD and PKM pretty easy to obtain.

Scutilla · Nov 13, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ObiWan07

No.
You can reach 290, but after that it's 380

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherno

Probably won't even max at Master skill hunter if the other patterns are to be belived, the next level would be "Grandmaster Skill Hunter".

Which probably means that Chapter 4 will bring the total up to 380, and the title won't be maxable until Chapter 5.

*sigh* I was going for the title to work towards People Know Me, but maybe I should just leave it alone in favor of other stuff if we don't know if it'll ever be maxable.

Nexus Icon · Nov 13, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

There should at least be some sort of reward for the skill hunter title track.
Say that once you reach a tier it unlocks those elites for all of your other PvE characters too?
For a long time now, I've thought that it should be an account-based title rather than a character-based one anyway.

Sjekster · Nov 14, 2006, 01:59 PM // 13:59

Yeah. Most of them you'll never use anyways....