Curse

Gun Pierson · Nov 08, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

So I've finished the game and want to get the protector title. So I need to do the missions where I choose another path the first time. All good and well, I took the quest 'hearth or mind: garden in danger' in the kodash bazar and I now need to find 'edge wizard Lohhaj' in the nightfallen garden so I can do 'Jennur's horde' mission after. I keep ending in the garden of seborhin instead even if the green arrow points to go there. It's the same area according to wiki but the nightfallen garden has a dark theme. It's also bugged says wiki.

So what do I have to do, any suggestions? How did you get in there?

Cymmina · Nov 08, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

You have to join a group with people who haven't beat the final mission and still has Nightfallen Garden accessible.

Tarus From Taros · Nov 08, 2006, 09:18 PM // 21:18

It is definitly a problem. I had the same issue. Go to Tihark Orchard and ask if anyone still has the night fallen garden quest. Even though the quest is messed up for you make sure you take it as well. Once outside the gates will be open and a portal appears at them. The person who lets you through the gates doesn't need to stay in your party, it only takes a minute to run through it so you can activate Jennur's Horde as a mission.

Savio · Nov 08, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

Go to Tihark Orchard and ask if anyone still has the night fallen garden quest.

No, they don't have to have the Garden in Danger quest. I went with a person who had finished all but the last mission and we still got in just fine.

Gun Pierson · Nov 08, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Ok thank you for the help guys, appreciate it!

Tarus From Taros · Nov 08, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

So what your saying is as long as someone chose Magrid instead of Master they can let you in?

Zexion · Nov 08, 2006, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Jennur's Horde has nothing to do with the master/margrid choice. They are both available before you beat the game, unlike the master/margrid missions.

_Zexion

lennymon · Nov 08, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32

for explorable area: Tahlkora in party: garden, without Tahlkora: nightfallen garden

Savio's right, since you've finished game, you wont need that quest to do the mission. So just pop on over the Jenurs Horde and do the mission with whichever hero (Melonni? Margrid idk)) is required.

Wilde One · Nov 08, 2006, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Ok I took Koss and left Tahlkora at home but still ended up in the usuial garden.

lennymon · Nov 08, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

It may be that the last update corrected the confusion by removing the nightfallen garden/ronjoks after you've finished either or. even yesterday morning I left tahlkora and went to nighfallen garden.
Regardless though, you won't need to do BOTH the heart or mind quests done to access the mission.

lightblade · Nov 08, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

I don't think you really need to complete the primary quests to get to that mission. Just run there and walk in.

VitisVinifera · Nov 09, 2006, 12:16 AM // 00:16

I have nothing to contribute to this thread other than to say that Tarus' avatar of The Buse is classic

Wilde One · Nov 09, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

I've still got the quest. I abandoned it and got it again. Jennur's Horde is still showing as a outpost and not a mission area and I can't get in. Maybe it's somthing to do with completing the game. All the other multiple chioce missions showed up straight away without having to do the quests for them.

Tarus From Taros · Nov 09, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Zexion

Jennur's Horde has nothing to do with the master/margrid choice. They are both available before you beat the game, unlike the master/margrid missions.

_Zexion

First of all, what do you mean "they" are both available before you beat the game? If you mean master and magrid... no they are not. If you mean Jennur's Horde and Nightfallen Garden... NO THEY ARE NOT! I took Master of Whisper's instead of Magrid. The second choice I made was to do Melonni's quest first over Koss's. While I could get into Jennur's I could NOT accept it as a mission. The only way I could was when another person who had not done Melonni's or Koss's mission let me into the garden to complete the 2nd quest. That person had Koss's quest active. If that person had selected Koss and completed the quest I guess it could be possible he could get me in the nightfallen garden somehow but on that im not quite sure.

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for explorable area: Tahlkora in party: garden, without Tahlkora: nightfallen garden

Savio's right, since you've finished game, you wont need that quest to do the mission. So just pop on over the Jenurs Horde and do the mission with whichever hero (Melonni? Margrid idk)) is required.

Not true. Regardless of what Hero I had selected I could not get the Horde mission to come active. This might have very well changed with that update the other night. But when I attempted it didn't work.

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I have nothing to contribute to this thread other than to say that Tarus' avatar of The Buse is classic

LoL. Thanks! I don't usually pick goofy avatar's but every time I see this picture of busey I couldn't help but to laugh. If you have no idea who Gary Busey is please let me make the following linkage suggestion: Gary Busey Videos

lennymon · Nov 09, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

which heart or mind mission did you complete first? and did you recieve the reward or do the followup quest before or after you completed the second heart or mind quest? I never touched the second heart or mind quest until after I had finished the game. Then I followed my quest pointer, popped into nightfallen garden (at the time I didn't know you had to leave out Tahlkora to enter nightfallen -or even that there were 2 gardens-, just got lucky... later when I wanted to map I figured that out) and talked to the gardener and had no problem doing the mission.

Edit: including the sequence of events will not only possibly help you by perhaps others with differing timelines and a process of eliminations, but also it may help anet to get it right if we can narrow down the problem.

Tarus From Taros · Nov 09, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Lenny, also did you choose Goren? I have no idea if that in any way would effect it just curious. What I did was take both quests at same time. After I finished melonnis i tried Koss's. Didn't work. So beat game and tried again. Didn't work. Abandoned the quest, picked it up and still didn't work. I don't ever have Talkhora in my group so that isn't a issue.

Savio · Nov 09, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Originally Posted by lennymon

Savio's right, since you've finished game, you wont need that quest to do the mission.

That's not what I said; I said that if you finished the game, you'll have to get someone else to bring you inside the Nightfallen Garden. Beating the game clears the garden of corruption, so you have to find someone else who still has the corrupted garden in order to enter. Heroes and paths taken beforehand are irrelevant. You cannot enter a mission if the primary quest for that mission is unfinished. (For the other missions that you didn't do beforehand, you aren't able to get their primary quests so you are just allowed to enter.)

Zexion · Nov 09, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Tarus, "they" refer to Jennur's Horde and Nundu Bay, and... YES THEY ARE!
Go back to Zerai the Learner after completing one Heart or Mind quest to get the other. I did that yesterday, and I haven't beaten the game yet.

_Zexion

Gun Pierson · Nov 09, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

I had to take someone that could still enter the nightfallen garden. I explained my problem to him and he was eager to help due to the bug. It all took less than 5 minutes. He prepared a build and all and was going to fight side by side till the end and to be sure to beat the bug. Guess what, we enter, I run 15 secs to where the green star shines. Talked to npc and we got warped out to Jennur's horde.

'Is that it?': the person asked.
'Yes buddy, you've made my day!.
'Oh, I was in for some adventuring', he replied.

Well he's on my friend list now and I owe him one.

lennymon · Nov 09, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Sorry, to clarify I wasnt intending to misquote you Savio, what I meant was in addition to what you said. The addition is that once you've completed the storyline it does not appear that the pre-quests are necessary to enter and do missions that were skipped over. I did save Ronjok first, and I *was* able to access the corrupted garden explorable after completing the game. Perhaps this is because I still had the other heart or mind quest in my active log. I no longer can access it however now that I've finished this quest. IF someone has the quest THEN they should simply be able to enter by leaving Tahlkora at home, at least this is how it worked before the 11/7 update.