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Shanaeri Rynale · Nov 27, 2006, 05:09 PM // 17:09

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I emailed anet yesterday asking where they stand on this so hopefully I will get an actual response as opposed to some snippit from the EULA

Does anyone else think this will be nerfed at the same time as we get a response now...

dr1zz one · Nov 27, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

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Originally Posted by SumXone

well, i'm not afk, i'm sitting there all the time, supervising my heroes.
prove me wrong.

Yea, im with this guy supervising heroes!

Funny story, I went around looking for chests just for the heck of it. I got hexed and died. So I supervised half my heroes to come and get me. I got them back into position and supervised them the rest of the night. Good times!

bamm bamm bamm · Nov 27, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28

Well they certainly know about it and haven't as of yet taken any action. I don't see how they could possibly punish people for using 'bots' provided by Anet themselves.

I thought it was going to be nerfed as soon as people started doing it, but they only touched xp gain. It would certainly be easy to do so. But then I thought faction farming was going to be nerfed too...

Gli · Nov 27, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32

This is a completely innocent and harmless practice compared to the incredibly annoying AFKing at Fort Aspenwood. Which they haven't fixed yet.

mrcake · Nov 27, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by dr1zz one

Yea, im with this guy supervising heroes!

Funny story, I went around looking for chests just for the heck of it. I got hexed and died. So I supervised half my heroes to come and get me. I got them back into position and supervised them the rest of the night. Good times!

I have done that once or twice, gone off exploring leaving them killing.
Strange thing is when i get so far away tahlkora's energy stops regenerating, even though im a warrior and have not put enchantments on anyone.
If i leave it to long and dont go back she dosent heal my ranger or necro hench and they die.

Nearly at 50k now.. which means i will be able to go to sleep tonight instead of sitting up organising my heros all night and day .. cough...

Abnaxus · Nov 27, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Hmm just been reading the EULA

You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method of support which may in any way influence or advantage your use of the Service which is not authorized by NC Interactive, including but not limited to the use of 'bots' and/or any other method by which the Service may be played automatically without human input.

Hmm

This is same sort of thing as the 9 rings AFK title grind, was this ever clarfied by AN?

In Prophecies and Factions, sometimes it happened that you died and henchies continued the battle "automatically without human input" and cleared the enemies on their own without ressing you. Or you went afk for a while and when back your henches had cleared a patrol which in the meantime aggroed your group. Literally, you couldn't give human input in those cases.

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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

Having a blonde moment, so forgive me.

9 Rings stand there and obtain a title, after some setting up(buying tickets). While the game gets it for you.

AFK LB points
Stand there and obtain a title, after some setting up. While the game gets it for you.

Just kinda concerned with all this AFK'ing going on people will wake up in the morning being banned.

Sounds a bit false as an excuse, especially after having raised against AFK farmers the suspect they're going against the EULA and so doing the worst "crime" in the game.

Personally I'm not interested in AFK farming for a title that is nearly totally useless, nevertheless I consider creative and intelligent, much more than I am, those players who have experimented, discovered this feature of the AI and worked to improve it.
They are even more brilliant than A.net developers, who programmed the AI with a lot of well known bugs and didn't realize that this was possible.

But I can understand the disappointment of an "elite player" who celebrates him/herself and his/her guild for "impossible challenges" like clearing FoW without weapons, when someone takes him/her away the exclusiveness of one of the high-end elitist titles just making henchies and monsters playing between themselves ...

Zinger314 · Nov 27, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by Gli

This is a completely innocent and harmless practice compared to the incredibly annoying AFKing at Fort Aspenwood. Which they haven't fixed yet.

Just wait. As soon as the Elite Mission is implemented, you will see topics that say "LB R3 = NUB! LB R8 = 1337!!!!1111!!!!1!"

gabrial heart · Nov 27, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

So, no one knows about the other 2 LB related skills?

mwpeck · Nov 27, 2006, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Thats another reason I dont think this is against the EULA......if they wanted to, it would have been fixed by now. They knew about it back when they nerfed clones to give no xp. They could either make them give no LB points, and if its the bounty, not the monsters, giving the points, just make the clones not count as a kill.

And yes, I think we will see some chat looking for r8 people for the elite mission. Could be a bad thing, but if its hard enough you could need that r8 to survive, but I dont think anet would make it THAT hard.

BlackRecluse · Nov 27, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

im pretty sure anet will not nerf it completely, but they will change the groups or slightly tweak the ai so it is much harder. they wont put a stop to it becaues you dont get any xp or drops; the only good this does is the title, which is not that important..

Tarus From Taros · Nov 27, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Just wait. As soon as the Elite Mission is implemented, you will see topics that say "LB R3 = NUB! LB R8 = 1337!!!!1111!!!!1!"

I'll put my money on " LB R9 = 1337!!!!1111!!!!1! "

unknown1 · Nov 27, 2006, 06:18 PM // 18:18

Well Anet might be thinking we want people to get the title, but isnce it would take to much grinding good job for figuring out a way to get the title quickly and effiecently =)

Zinger314 · Nov 27, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by gabrial heart

So, no one knows about the other 2 LB related skills?

They don't exist. The author of that article has never played the game.

Shanaeri Rynale · Nov 27, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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But I can understand the disappointment of an "elite player" who celebrates him/herself and his/her guild for "impossible challenges" like clearing FoW without weapons, when someone takes him/her away the exclusiveness of one of the high-end elitist titles just making henchies and monsters playing between themselves ...

My concern was that after the dragon festival a number of people got banned for botting etc, one of the things that linked them was 9 rings afk farming.

Now if you think I was wrong to bring it up them that's kinda tough.

Personally I think this is the same as 9 rings AFK farming, but taking into account the link above was'nt it better to ask the question now(as someone helpfully did above) than people be onto support for hours trying to get a banned account back.

I think the builds and tactics are are ingenious personally, I kinda hope AN feels the same, in the way they thought the progression to sunspear 9 was.

Does' it cheapen LB rank, for sure it does. It's not as though titles meant much anyway, but as pointed out the elite mission may be made easier by having a high LB rank. Or if rumors are confirmed and it'll be in the Nightfallen version of the jewel'd palace with Djinn maybe not. LB does'nt work on Djinn after all..

Tarus From Taros · Nov 27, 2006, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

They don't exist. The author of that article has never played the game.

Heh, Don't be too Hasty. Just because you havn't seen them YET doesn't mean they don't exist.

Dr Ripley · Nov 27, 2006, 06:25 PM // 18:25

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Originally Posted by SumXone

well, i'm not afk, i'm sitting there all the time, supervising my heroes.
prove me wrong.

LOL! Yeah... the same here. Actually, this is also a great time to work on my ale hound title...

gabrial heart · Nov 27, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

They don't exist. The author of that article has never played the game.

This article??
From: http://www.guildwars.com/gameplay/gw...itletracks.php

"Like the Sunspear Title Track, there are nine ranks in the Lightbringer Title Track, but the title has an additional mechanic. When you display your Lightbringer title (by selecting it in your character's Hero panel) each rank of Lightbringer gives you +5% damage against demons and +1 damage reduction against demons. Four "No Attribute" skills available in Vabbi also become more powerful as you gain Lightbringer ranks. For anyone fighting wave after wave of minions enslaved by Abaddon, gaining Lightbringer ranks can make crusading against the forces of darkness a little easier."

Soooo, more mis-information? Or is there some special place/questline no one's found yet? Someone in Chantry said that there were 2 more skills at r9, but i have no way to confirm anything....

Tarus From Taros · Nov 27, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by gabrial heart

Soooo, more mis-information? Or is there some special place/questline no one's found yet? Someone in Chantry said that there were 2 more skills at r9, but i have no way to confirm anything....

What I can tell you is that after hitting R8 Lightbringer your character still earns lb points. Now, why do you think that is?

gabrial heart · Nov 27, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

What I can tell you is that after hitting R8 Lightbringer your character still earns lb points. Now, why do you think that is?

Well most likely since there is an R9 after R8 as stated in that article, I assume. If there are skills and you KNOW of them could you at least confirm them instead of eluding to their existance? I'd also like to know the stats on them, since signet (especially being an elite) is such an utter crapola skill....

Cyan The Archer · Nov 27, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Tarus, because of a bug. You can see people with more than 1337500 xp on their survivor title. See people with more than 10000 minutes being drunk etc etc..

gabrial, the elite signet isnt that bad. You get 24 energy for it at R8, way better than Mantra of Recall for example. There is NOT more than 4 LB skills out there, do you honestly believe that all the players with R8 LB havent found them yet? Right now i'm exploring with R8 LB, and have done almost all quests. There is no more LB skills.