Nov 09, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02
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#161
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Teenager with attitude
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Originally Posted by Jade_Onyx
I pretty confident that holy damage does ignore armour.
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It doesn't. Heart of Holy Flame and Avatar of Balthazar settled it. You don't deal physical damage when your attacks become Holy damage. It's just that most skills in the Smiting line inherently ignore armor.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
I think what you are thinking of is the smite prayers enchant which changes you weapon damage to holy AND fixes your armor at 60 aka judges insight... then it IS essentially armor ignoring.
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It doesn't fix armor at 60 AL. That was an incorrect theory as to how Holy/Shadow damage ignored armor.
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Nov 09, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32
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#162
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: California
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aohige
Uh, before you ask those questions, why don't you actually read THIS thread?
Read page 6, there's a guy who already hit 26k several days ago.
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DAMNIT i knew that was going to happen...i was in school and in such a rush i missed it...i look like such a n00b right now...sorry for wating everyones time with my post
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Nov 10, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00
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#163
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]
Profession: R/
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Sorry Savio just not my day. Luckily it wasn't the main point I was trying to make. Guess I need a remedial on the current dogmas/working theories for smite prayers.
Last edited by lennymon; Nov 10, 2006 at 12:02 AM // 00:02..
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Nov 10, 2006, 01:07 AM // 01:07
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#164
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: The Lost Saracens
Profession: R/Mo
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Hey I'm sorry but has anyone said how to AFK farm LB points? If so maybe you can retell it to me or tell me where it's posted, or if its nerfed yet or w/e..Sorry for trouble but was reading through and couldn't find it.
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Nov 10, 2006, 01:34 AM // 01:34
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#165
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Serenity Temple
Profession: W/
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hehe nvm.
Last edited by Xunlai Master; Nov 14, 2006 at 06:14 AM // 06:14..
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Nov 10, 2006, 04:09 AM // 04:09
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#166
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xunlai Master
having said that i guess ill just go for r8+ since im not gettin any answers on this thread (n in sunspear thread).. and i dont think anyone will have better method of gettin 50k in 1 blessing than one i have alrdy..
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So what is your method??
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Nov 10, 2006, 07:34 AM // 07:34
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#167
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]
Profession: W/
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Xunlai, you're not getting any answers because no one on the forums has them.
And would it hurt you to capitalize the first word of each sentence? =/
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Nov 10, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25
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#168
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Montreal
Guild: TSK
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-->Savio
If you read all my post then you should have seen that I said when you change your attacks do physical dmg plus the new damage (holy) but I just tested this and guess I'm wrong about that (use to be like this, but guess they finally changed it...probably like 6 months ago but meh). I still stand by the armour ignoring, since I think it makes more sense in my mind. Maybe some creatures just have dmg reduction vs holy (like the oposite of necro tormentor stuff)...meh I don't really care. What I'm really looking for here is for one of those who have rank 8 (and I know you're out there) if you can still talk to people to get the next rank.
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Nov 10, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54
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#169
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bordeaux
Guild: Bomberboyz Orks [orKs]
Profession: Mo/
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you must find a way of killing the monsters, not too quickly and not too slowly: make several tests
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Last edited by halea; Nov 10, 2006 at 10:59 AM // 10:59..
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Nov 10, 2006, 12:20 PM // 12:20
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#170
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: GoW
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gwhobo
Hey I'm sorry but has anyone said how to AFK farm LB points? If so maybe you can retell it to me or tell me where it's posted, or if its nerfed yet or w/e..Sorry for trouble but was reading through and couldn't find it.
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I'm sure we all have diffrent methods of farming those Call to the Torment creatures, but we are all keeping tight lip about it in hopes it doesn't get A.net's attention
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Nov 10, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18
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#171
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Herts, UK
Guild: One Hitter Quitters [QQ]
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Holy damage isn't armor ignoring. Various skills that do Holy Damage do ignore armor, but if you look at anything like Judge's Insight you'll see that it converts the damage type so that the effects on Armor such as +10 vs. Physical are ignored, however the natural Armor level is what it would be.
Edit: As for afk farming LB points. Gate of Nightfallen Lands -> get the bounty from the nearest Warden. Kill everything except Spear of Torment. Take 2 Healer Heroes, a Paragon Hero, 2 Healer Henchmen, Warrior Henchman. Set your Paragon up almost completely defensively, but meet his Spear Mastery requirement. Maybe give him 1/2 attack skills. You'll get 200+ pts per hour while afk.
Last edited by Vanquisher; Nov 10, 2006 at 02:21 PM // 14:21..
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Nov 10, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15
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#172
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Not far from Elite
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Florida
Profession: W/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanquisher
Maybe give him 1/2 attack skills. You'll get 200+ pts per hour while afk.
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man my henchman's arm must be tired for throwing so many spears.... thanks for the tip =)
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Nov 11, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33
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#173
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Currently residing in ToA dis 1
Profession: Mo/
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i know this is a rather noobish question but seeing as the search button is broked atm...can anyone direct me to the "nightfallen gate" area?
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Nov 11, 2006, 01:23 PM // 13:23
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#174
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Bordeaux
Guild: Bomberboyz Orks [orKs]
Profession: Mo/
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no comment
have fun
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Nov 11, 2006, 02:02 PM // 14:02
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#175
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There is no spoon.
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Netherlands
Profession: Mo/
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Nice, rank 8 is maximum, thanks alot for posting Now to find a nice spot to farm, and some addicts that feel like teaming up.
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Nov 11, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07
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#176
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]
Profession: W/
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Rank 8 is max eh? Good to know that I don't have to spend the rest of my guild wars life maxing it out.
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Nov 11, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34
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#177
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Average Joes [none]
Profession: Mo/W
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the important thing to ask here is : is there any REAL rewards for maxing it? cuz frankly, LB gaze, and that other elite skill are pretty much crap, its not like i can't take two searing flames eles; rewards i say!
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Nov 11, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41
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#178
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Site Contributor
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Herts, UK
Guild: One Hitter Quitters [QQ]
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Kind of a Big Deal. There's the reward.
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Nov 11, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07
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#179
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I dunt even get "Retired"
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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You do know that Lightbringer title gives you +5% extra damage to demons and -1 damage reduction from demons PER RANK, right? That's a total of -8 damage reduction, and 40% extra damage, and that's pretty good in my opinion.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jade_Onyx
-->Savio
If you read all my post then you should have seen that I said when you change your attacks do physical dmg plus the new damage (holy) but I just tested this and guess I'm wrong about that (use to be like this, but guess they finally changed it...probably like 6 months ago but meh). I still stand by the armour ignoring, since I think it makes more sense in my mind. Maybe some creatures just have dmg reduction vs holy (like the oposite of necro tormentor stuff)...meh I don't really care. What I'm really looking for here is for one of those who have rank 8 (and I know you're out there) if you can still talk to people to get the next rank.
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Do this test for me, well, for you really. Go use Lightbringers Gaze on a mixed group of Margonites. Then, explain how exactly holy is armor ignoring since the different classes will take (zomgnowai) different amounts of damage. Oh, and also, Margonite Executioners (Warriors) who use heal sig will take over 200 pts of damage from Lightbringer's Gaze. It's simply much easier to say that the direct damage Smiting line holy damage skills are armor ignoring.
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Nov 11, 2006, 09:07 PM // 21:07
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#180
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: Average Joes [none]
Profession: Mo/W
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hhmm... i see. let me see if i understand, so we grind at least 50 hours to max the title (at 1000lb point/hour), so we get 1 point to the KOAD title to get that, just the title? hhmm, i see, this is quite worth it
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