Curse

creelie · Jan 24, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Normally I loves me some Guild Wars, but the monsters in Domain of Anguish could harsh Bob Marley's buzz. The PvE mobs aren't much fun either.

I have no interest in any item I would hesitate to customize, nor in selling gemstones for massive profit. Those of you who have the ritualist in your hero stable and got him by questing, is he all by himself USEFUL enough to justify what you went through to get him?

Lady Ana Stacia · Jan 24, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33

My husband and I have been doing DoA and just recently got him Razah. We got the titan gem doing the foundry and he bought the remaining stones needed. I would say he is definitely a choice and not a must have. Personally I am not all inclined to get him but might for 1 charactor.

Definitely don't think he is worth it tho for all 12 of my charactors!

Guess it boils down to how badly do you want a rit hero? For me DoA isn't about Razah but the accomplishment of completing all the missions successfully.

Abyss1 · Jan 25, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

OK so me beeing the above mentioned hubby........

Razah was for me something I wanted on this one character just to have it. I made him Rit LOrd with a twist due to energy and hero's just not beeing all that smart. He works but to say I can't do without no he takes a spot normally used either for my hero MM or prot monk and probably not be used a lot.....

Meo Yeong · Jan 25, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

I wouldnt worry about Razah till the gems are super cheap. In my opinion 120k for a hero is stupid and not worth it. Only time I could see some use out of him is for pvp and then all you need is 6000 points to unlock him which is easy to get and cheaper. Id rather waste my sets of gems on a coffers lol.

Also for the pve part of the game you only need 3-4 of the heroes to make it thru the game yourself other then when they mandatory a mission which even if they at low level you can still beat them. Those heroes are Koss, whispers and norgu. Only reason I said 3-4 is because you can get olias that way dont have to keep switching whispers from ss to mm. With those characters you can make it thru the game including gates of madness by yourself.

creelie · Jan 26, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Thank you for your thoughts, everyone!

Meo Yeong, that's an interesting point - do you think there's a good chance that gems will get cheaper over time? An awful lot seem to be going towards coffers and armbraces, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

Pro Border Crosser · Jan 26, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Everything tends to get cheaper, although might not happen quickly with gems and ambrace especially. Once more and more people get through DOA in the next couple months, I see pretty reasonable prices.

Bowstring Badass · Jan 26, 2007, 10:23 PM // 22:23

DoA = waste of time

Seriously if I am going to waste time I will do something useful like do Random Arenas and get my Balthazar Faction over 1 million (at 880k at the moment). Razah is not worth the what 2 1/2 hours to get. Seriously if you want to use your time go ahead but man your wasting good time to go into Random Arenas and see some stupid **** people are saying.

Meo Yeong · Jan 26, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Well this is just an opinion but gem prices have been going down slowly. We looking at 70k titan, 8k stygians, 12k margonits and 16k torment. They where all higher then that no longer then a week ago.

However, DOA seems to be slowing down since people are getting frustrated with not getting groups and such. Also they fixed a bug so getting those 4 final gems for ebony citadel is not as easy as before so peopel are spending more time trying to get thru ebony citadel instead of the other missins and farming. This slightly reduces teh pool of gems comin in from that.

So overall all I really can say is time will tell. Note though that in gw most items go down eventually after they wear off being the latest and greatest.

Li Tian · Jan 27, 2007, 08:21 AM // 08:21

I personally find Razah useful in PVE, where you have the time to fully utilise the spirits and skills. Not in every PVE build but enough to make him useful.

Plus as mentioned he is the natural conclusion of the elonian map, so eventually you will get him.

I dont personally see why he has been made so tough to get, however yes I would get him and as with all items in GW the gem prices if you plan to buy them will fall.

KennyC · Jan 29, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

People keep mentioning that its tough to get Razah, it expensive - so what? If everything was easy there would be nothing to aspire to and everyone would have the best equipment and tons of cash.

I'm glad it's hard, it's all a learning/ability curve and there has to be a high end.

Meo Yeong · Jan 30, 2007, 12:00 AM // 00:00

lol, a high end hero thats useless lol

--Vlad-- · Jan 30, 2007, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

DoA = waste of time

Seriously if I am going to waste time I will do something useful like do Random Arenas and get my Balthazar Faction over 1 million (at 880k at the moment). Razah is not worth the what 2 1/2 hours to get. Seriously if you want to use your time go ahead but man your wasting good time to go into Random Arenas and see some stupid **** people are saying.

Well, that is your personal preference. Some people like 2+ hour quests, or farming runs, or in this case... "Hero Capping". Myself included in that, I would rather spend my time doing this then doing RA.

What my be a complete waste of your time, my be valuable to others.

L|S >+>+G+<+< · Feb 01, 2007, 02:17 AM // 02:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyC

People keep mentioning that its tough to get Razah, it expensive - so what? If everything was easy there would be nothing to aspire to and everyone would have the best equipment and tons of cash.

I'm glad it's hard, it's all a learning/ability curve and there has to be a high end.

I'm glad it's hard too and agree but why put a silly rt at the end ? it's pointless.
why not just have a super boss or something similar and a team of 12 trying to defeat him or her?

you get all other hero's easily & then a sill rt boss at the end..... silly...v silly...

Karlos · Feb 01, 2007, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Going back on track...

Razah is worth what having a ritualist is worth. If you've never used a ritualist and could not care less about them, then he's not worth a whole lot. If you have played rits and know how a well placed Shelter can make that fight against The Drought a piece of cake or how a well placed Displacement can render the most terrifying of warrior bosses inept... Then you know what he's worth.

As an example, Razah is the MOST useful hero (if we're comparing heroes) against Mallyx himself. Mallyx has no answer to spirits. So, Razah can lay down Shelter + Union + Displacement and your party can actually stand there and fight the guy without having to do the rebirth trick or run around like headless chicken. Of course, a human Rit Lord would be 50 times better, but among heroes, yeah, he would be the most useful in that fight.

On the flip side, you can just go through all of PvE with 2 SF ele heroes and the rest really does not matter until you get to the Realm of Torment.

To summarize, he DOES give you a dimension that no other hero can give you, but if you're just looking for a bunch of joes to get you to your cap spots and stuff, then he won't be worth 100k+. You can always wait till Titan Gems are 5k and then get him.

Oso Minar · Feb 01, 2007, 03:25 AM // 03:25

I'm a Ritualist. I've spent many a platinum purchasing every Ritualist skill and the Capture Signets to capture all the Elites. I absolutely love the Ritualist class, and many a time have found myself wondering "Man, if only I had another Ritualist for (insert any four skills here)! 8 slots is not enough!"

That being said, I most certainly will eventually be attempting to unlock Razah soon. I'm putting other things higher on the priority list until things start calming down in the DoA, but rest assured I will be making every effort to get those gems and pick him up.

GloryFox · Feb 01, 2007, 04:13 AM // 04:13

I find him worth it since I have all Ritualist skills unlocked. However if you do not have a Ritualist with many skills unlocked don't waste your time.

I have him unlocked for three characters all from doing and completing the DoA quests with one character. This has taken 2 months of hard work to accomplish.

I find PvE Razah as an accomplishment and will not complain if ANET makes an alternative HERO Rit for others to get.

HINT HINT
Even if they hand one out someday?

SnipiousMax · Feb 01, 2007, 04:17 AM // 04:17

With the impending nerf to Searing flames, and the impending buff to the channeling line... it might be worth having him.

Cherno · Feb 01, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Is he worth it? Ask yourself this...

Did you play a ritualist? Did you like it? Have you picked ritualit henchies when playing the games?

Arkantos · Feb 01, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowstring Badass

DoA = waste of time

Seriously if I am going to waste time I will do something useful like do Random Arenas and get my Balthazar Faction over 1 million (at 880k at the moment). Razah is not worth the what 2 1/2 hours to get. Seriously if you want to use your time go ahead but man your wasting good time to go into Random Arenas and see some stupid **** people are saying.

If you don't think RA is a waste of time, you should uninstall.

Thom Bangalter · Feb 01, 2007, 06:57 AM // 06:57

He was certainly worth 6k faction.